Let's Go All In?

[cragi]

brewers are in great shape but there's just no reason to sacrifice for one shot in a year you cant say you're better than the Dodgers. The Dodgers not only have the allstar lineup, but they also have 7 top 100 prospects according to MLB pipeline. So they are also in great position to upgrade if necessary and healthy for their future.

[TURBO]

On 5/21/2026 at 3:40 PM, wntrtxn21 said:

Machado is making Burnes' type money so Milwaukee couldn't afford him, just like Burnes. $25+M this year then $39+M after that. So far this year Machado is hitting .178 with an OPS+ of 70.  That's going to change, but the money is far more than the Brewers would pay. 

I would HATE if the Brewers had that punk on the roster.  Seriously, I would be forced to make a decision, and Machado would absolutely ruin my fandom every day he took the field in a Brewers uniform.  Thankfully, he'll never be a Brewer.

[adambr2]

I think people dramatically overestimate how much even an “all-in” move actually moves the needle.

If I wanted to be very generous, I would guess that as of today, our odds of going to the World Series this year are probably around 15%. If I’m being generous. If you ask Vegas, it’s lower than that.

That isn’t being negative, that isn’t a lack of faith in the team. That’s just the reality of going up against the field of other NL teams trying to all accomplish the same goal. Being good isn’t enough. You always have to be lucky. 

The foundation of what we already have is the basis for our chances. Anything we add, is just incremental. How much is it worth giving up to increase our World Series chances from 15% to 18%, hypothetically speaking?

[wibadgers23]

This regime doesn't make "all in" moves. They just don't. The closest was Yelich and Cain but that was 8 years ago during the Stearns era.  Perhaps if Doug Melvin was still running the team, we'd be having a different conversation but Arnold and company don't operate like that. It's not right or wrong. It just is what it is.

[adambr2]

1 minute ago, wibadgers23 said:

This regime doesn't make "all in" moves. They just don't. The closest was Yelich and Cain but that was 8 years ago during the Stearns era.  Perhaps if Doug Melvin was still running the team, we'd be having a different conversation but Arnold and company don't operate like that. It's not right or wrong. It just is what it is.

Plus I wouldn’t even say those were really “all-in” moves. They were adding what they felt were foundational pieces and turned out to be right.

[adambr2]

To go along with the theme of the thread though, if I’m making an all in trade, I’m not looking at Abrams.  I’m going after Bobby Witt Jr.  If I’m making a move like that I’m going after a guy who can be a franchise cornerstone for a long time, 

That's only assuming that the rumors are actually true that they are taking calls on him, which I tend to doubt that they actually are. 

[IntentionalHBP1]

.001% chance of happening but if we go all in I want Yordan Alvarez. 

Pena would headline, throw in Lara and others. 

Get him for 2.5 years, 26 million per year so pretty steep but woodruffs contract falling off next year. Guaranteed production outside of injury. 

yelich is already the primary DH but Alvarez in our lineup would be a needle mover

[wallus]

2 hours ago, adambr2 said:

To go along with the theme of the thread though, if I’m making an all in trade, I’m not looking at Abrams.  I’m going after Bobby Witt Jr.  If I’m making a move like that I’m going after a guy who can be a franchise cornerstone for a long time, 

That's only assuming that the rumors are actually true that they are taking calls on him, which I tend to doubt that they actually are. 

Link? 

[adambr2]

6 minutes ago, wallus said:

Link? 

I should have disclaimed, nothing more than Twitter chatter which again I doubt has any merit to it at all. I’m more just fantasizing.

[wallus]

3 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I should have disclaimed, nothing more than Twitter chatter which again I doubt has any merit to it at all. I’m more just fantasizing.

If he actually was available, he would be prefered over Abrams but Twitter slop isn't going to convince me that he is. 

[jay87shot]

What about going after a pitcher?

Misi, Harrison, and Henderson looked like the start of a playoff rotation. Sproat could get there or maybe Woody gets right. After going against those Dodger pitchers last year I would prefer a high end starter to Abrams. Hunter Brown would be a sweet target if the price isn't to crazy.

[TwinsBrewersWorldSeries]

14 hours ago, adambr2 said:

To go along with the theme of the thread though, if I’m making an all in trade, I’m not looking at Abrams.  I’m going after Bobby Witt Jr.  If I’m making a move like that I’m going after a guy who can be a franchise cornerstone for a long time, 

That's only assuming that the rumors are actually true that they are taking calls on him, which I tend to doubt that they actually are. 

Yes please.  I can’t imagine what it would cost for Witt though.  Elite SS, Age 25, signed through 2034.  I think you could make an argument that he’s the most valuable player (based on age, contract, performance) in the league right now.

give he’s elite and signed for the next decade, no idea why Kansas City would want to trade him, but I’d imagine it would be Made, a couple top 100 prospects to get him?

 

[TwinsBrewersWorldSeries]

9 hours ago, jay87shot said:

What about going after a pitcher?

Misi, Harrison, and Henderson looked like the start of a playoff rotation. Sproat could get there or maybe Woody gets right. After going against those Dodger pitchers last year I would prefer a high end starter to Abrams. Hunter Brown would be a sweet target if the price isn't to crazy.

I don’t disagree.  Miz, Harrison, Patrick is pretty formidable in the playoffs, but keeping Patrick in his current role would be beneficial.

that said, pretty tough to win if you can’t score.  Our bottom half offense looks pretty rough right now.

[BrewLongma34]

Agreed.  As of right now, our 1-6 is locked in and stable (assuming no injuries).   
 

Either cut Renigo or trade him for a lottery ticket. 
 

move Ortiz and Hamilton to utility.   Pratt at SS.

A better, formidable 3B option than Renigo.  
 

Bat Frelick 9th.   Now our 7-9 looks more studly

[wiguy94]

1 hour ago, TwinsBrewersWorldSeries said:

Yes please.  I can’t imagine what it would cost for Witt though.  Elite SS, Age 25, signed through 2034.  I think you could make an argument that he’s the most valuable player (based on age, contract, performance) in the league right now.

give he’s elite and signed for the next decade, no idea why Kansas City would want to trade him, but I’d imagine it would be Made, a couple top 100 prospects to get him?

 

He’s never going to get traded so it’s probably not worth thinking too much about, but I think he’s almost certain to opt out of his contract after 2030 so you’d be getting 4+ years of control of him.

[nate82]

Bobby Witt would probably be the only player I would consider going all in for.  Everyone else no thanks.  

[cragi]

12 hours ago, jay87shot said:

What about going after a pitcher?

Misi, Harrison, and Henderson looked like the start of a playoff rotation. Sproat could get there or maybe Woody gets right. After going against those Dodger pitchers last year I would prefer a high end starter to Abrams. Hunter Brown would be a sweet target if the price isn't to crazy.

with the surge of Harrison, its a bit less critical but it would be nice to get a veteran arm if neither of Priester and Woodruff are convincing by trade deadline.

While the youth and longevity is a concern, one thing i like about the construction of the pitching staff is that so many can come in and dominate for stretches. We dont have the typical innings eater pitchers of the past like Quintana who offer nothing for us in the playoffs, where dominant pitching in short bursts is ideal. 

There are a lot of guys on the roster who could dominate for 2-3-4 innings, which is going to be fun in the postseason.

[TURBO]

13 hours ago, jay87shot said:

What about going after a pitcher?

Misi, Harrison, and Henderson looked like the start of a playoff rotation. Sproat could get there or maybe Woody gets right. After going against those Dodger pitchers last year I would prefer a high end starter to Abrams. Hunter Brown would be a sweet target if the price isn't to crazy.

Fact is, we need another front end starter AND we need at least one hitter, probably 2, to go toe to toe with the evil empire in the playoffs.

We can't have our 7-9 hitters as they sit and expect to win in the playoffs, much less get to, and win the world series.

The playoffs are a different animal than the regular season.

[cragi]

2 minutes ago, TURBO said:

We can't have our 7-9 hitters as they sit and expect to win in the playoffs, much less get to, and win the world series.

We arent going to have those 7-9 hitters come playoffs, while their replacements are sitting at AAA. Not to say they wont hunt for a bigger player if they can find a bargain, but Dodgers also can trade away prospects if they want to. A few of these guys were temporary filler to start the season and Arnold said as much when they traded away Durbin.

LF Leonard 980 OPS
CF Lara 949
3B Williams 768 
SS Pratt 733
 

[wallus]

What's the most we would be willing to give up for Skubal?

Not my idea, but I saw ontheline a propsoal that was: Gasser, Thompson and Lara

[rccola42]

14 minutes ago, wallus said:

What's the most we would be willing to give up for Skubal?

Not my idea, but I saw ontheline a propsoal that was: Gasser, Thompson and Lara

That's not remotely close to what they're going to fetch for Skubal. Luis Pena is your starting point.

[wallus]

Just now, rccola42 said:

That's not remotely close to what they're going to fetch for Skubal. Luis Pena is your starting point.

Skubal is in a class of his own for sure (who knows how this injury will change things) but it's been a long while since a top 25 prospect has been traded for a rental, much less adding more.

[TURBO]

2 hours ago, rccola42 said:

That's not remotely close to what they're going to fetch for Skubal. Luis Pena is your starting point.

I'd venture to guess that Made is your starting point to be honest...

[TURBO]

2 hours ago, wallus said:

What's the most we would be willing to give up for Skubal?

Not my idea, but I saw ontheline a propsoal that was: Gasser, Thompson and Lara

Honestly, I'd do this deal as long as Skubal physically checks out...

I'm not a real Gasser believer, so to me, he is a toss in...  

Gasser, Thompson and Lara for Skubal?  Count me in.

That will never get it done, but if it would, I'd do it like yesterday!

[endaround]

Gasser is a 27 year old with a long injury history, no real MLB success and almost 2 year of service time used. Lots of teams won't consider him more than a throw-in at this point.