Dubon to SF for Pomeranz and Black

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Dubon with a 127 OPS+ right now at the MLB level. .302/.327/.547 slash line in 55 plate appearances.

 

You continue to prove yourself as a troll with every post.

[pacopete4]

Drew Pomeranz as a reliever: 1.94 ERA with 41 strikeouts in 23.2 innings.

[Ennder]

Drew Pomeranz as a reliever: 1.94 ERA with 41 strikeouts in 23.2 innings.

 

This was definitely one I was wrong on. Not so much that I was losing sleep at giving up Dubon, but I just thought we could have gotten someone with a longer track record or more control.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Drew Pomeranz as a reliever: 1.94 ERA with 41 strikeouts in 23.2 innings.

 

And he's gotten better the more they've used him. He's transformed himself into a legit weapon out of the pen. Bravo to the Brewers front office and pro scouting staff for recognizing that a guy with good stuff but was struggling in a starting role could successfully convert himself into a shutdown reliever.

[Harold Hutchison]

Drew Pomeranz as a reliever: 1.94 ERA with 41 strikeouts in 23.2 innings.

 

And he's gotten better the more they've used him. He's transformed himself into a legit weapon out of the pen. Bravo to the Brewers front office and pro scouting staff for recognizing that a guy with good stuff but was struggling in a starting role could successfully convert himself into a shutdown reliever.

 

The big question is: Can they re-sign him this offseason?

[jjfanec]

Dubon with a 127 OPS+ right now at the MLB level. .302/.327/.547 slash line in 55 plate appearances.

 

Dubon's power has been the key. He has 3 hr but he doesn't walk at all. On the otherhand he doesn't strikeout at all either. Will be interesting to follow. His numbers will fluctuate a ton being a small sample. Ops is down to 781 after a rough night.

[Jopal78]

Drew Pomeranz as a reliever: 1.94 ERA with 41 strikeouts in 23.2 innings.

 

And he's gotten better the more they've used him. He's transformed himself into a legit weapon out of the pen. Bravo to the Brewers front office and pro scouting staff for recognizing that a guy with good stuff but was struggling in a starting role could successfully convert himself into a shutdown reliever.

 

The big question is: Can they re-sign him this offseason?

 

His performance with Milwaukee will certainly make him some money. From back end starter on a one year deal, to a late inning power lefty

[Mr Southpaw]

They have a nice combo of leftys right now. Hader. Gio, Drew, Claudio, and Sutor. I would try to keep them all and then drop Anderson and sign Lyles. I think they can financially do it with Nelson, Davies, Woodruff, Hauser, and Lyles as starters with Freddie and Burnes and one of the lefty ex-starters as back up starters.

 

The way CC uses his pitchers having quality leftys like this would really help him.

[Harold Hutchison]

They have a nice combo of leftys right now. Hader. Gio, Drew, Claudio, and Sutor. I would try to keep them all and then drop Anderson and sign Lyles. I think they can financially do it with Nelson, Davies, Woodruff, Hauser, and Lyles as starters with Freddie and Burnes and one of the lefty ex-starters as back up starters.

 

The way CC uses his pitchers having quality leftys like this would really help him.

 

I don't think the Crew can count on Nelson being back to form.

 

I'd go with Woodruff, Houser, Gio, Davies, and Lyles to start the season in the rotation, with a combo of Anderson, Burnes, Peralta, Suter, and Supak as "backups" in either AAA or the bullpen.

 

For the bullpen, you start with Hader, Knebel, Pomeranz, and Devin Williams. The rest come from the backup starters and Claudio/Guerra/Wahl/Black/Jay Jackson. Nelson may fall here, if not as a garbage man, then as a middle reliever.

 

Now some pitchers, like Claudio or Anderson, might be useful trade bait. Nelson, it may be better to DFA him, and bring him back on a minor-league deal with a NRI. His service time was not handled well, and between him and Troy Stokes, Stearns made some real boo-boos on the roster management front this year.

[jerichoholicninja]

Dubon's 1 for 7 last night make his numbers look less impressive now. Especially that sub .300 OBP.

[jjfanec]

Dubon's 1 for 7 last night make his numbers look less impressive now. Especially that sub .300 OBP.

 

Yep. A lot of prospects flash at first. Look at the guys in the Yelich trade. Yamamoto came crashing back to earth. Diaz had a nice first game and has struggled a ton after that. Dubon doesnt walk enough to sustain super good hitting numbers. That will have to change. Wish the kid the best but I am not losing any sleep over him

[bill hAll Star]

It's still early but Dubon may have the career that [if Pomeranz doesn't stay and Black is nothing special] will draw fans' ire even if it shouldn't.

 

I foresee a Freddy Galvis with the juiced ball future for Dubon. A high batting average, steals, and homers with the juiced ball and the casual fan being impressed with his lack of strikeouts.

 

Of course, he'll be the type that could and should be DFAed at any moment since he is not an elite defensive player and carries a bad OBP along with not a great SLG, but that won't stop the casual fan from complaining that we really botched it because, "he's hitting .270 with 19 homers and 22 steals. What were we thinking?" Especially given the understandable dislike of having Arcia in there every day.

[tmwiese55]

Speaking of Galvis. His September is 143/234 for a 496 OPS dropping his seasons down to 260/296/732. I remember much consternation on not getting him.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Speaking of Galvis. His September is 143/234 for a 496 OPS dropping his seasons down to 260/296/732. I remember much consternation on not getting him.

 

There were a few posters that mentioned him as an option, but only one that really got upset. Of course, he posted about it a lot, so it seemed like more consternation than it probably was.

[Brew crew 92]

Speaking of Galvis. His September is 143/234 for a 496 OPS dropping his seasons down to 260/296/732. I remember much consternation on not getting him.

 

There were a few posters that mentioned him as an option, but only one that really got upset. Of course, he posted about it a lot, so it seemed like more consternation than it probably was.

 

It was me.

2.8 million.

That’s the total cost in prospects & money for Galvis. Don’t know what he would have done for MKE, but if no better, STILL AN UPGRADE over the worst hitter in baseball. My opinion. That includes a million $ buyout, or 5.5 million option for next year.

[pacopete4]

He stinks. Own it.

[Brew crew 92]

He stinks. Own it.

 

Ok, he’s a below ave player, not good, but still an upgrade over Arcia, because, anyone would be an upgrade over Arcia during the regular season. But, Maybe Arcia can flip the switch, in the playoffs, like he did last year.

[recte44]

What is the song that plays when Pomeranz comes in to pitch? Seems weird.

 

 

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[IIAY]

2019 Pomeranz w/Brewers: 22.1 IP, 3HR, 8 BB, 38 K, 2.63 FIP, 186 ERA+, 0.8 WAR

2019 Kimbrel w/ Cubs: 19.2 IP, 7 HR, 11 BB, 28 K, 6.98 FIP, 76 ERA+, -0.3 WAR

[cesser000]

2019 Pomeranz w/Brewers: 22.1 IP, 3HR, 8 BB, 38 K, 2.63 FIP, 186 ERA+, 0.8 WAR

2019 Kimbrel w/ Cubs: 19.2 IP, 7 HR, 11 BB, 28 K, 6.98 FIP, 76 ERA+, -0.3 WAR

Stearns once again for the win.

[tmwiese55]

Weird, I was under the impression it was a fireable offense to not sign him and that our owner was a cheapskate who should just sell if he doesn't want to win.

 

Still, if I'm the Cubs I think it's a good signing. Attempt to sure up their biggest weakness and only cost money (which they have plenty of) and no prospects from their already depleted system. For us, good one to avoid

[Brew crew 92]

Weird, I was under the impression it was a fireable offense to not sign him and that our owner was a cheapskate who should just sell if he doesn't want to win.

 

Still, if I'm the Cubs I think it's a good signing. Attempt to sure up their biggest weakness and only cost money (which they have plenty of) and no prospects from their already depleted system. For us, good one to avoid

 

Sign Kimbrel > BC92 > wrong

Cheapskate > Nutting > Pirates owner

Attanasio > ????? Time will tell(next year we should have a better idea)if we make the playoffs again and at least get to the DS, then a

Payroll ~ 20 mil higher next year with at least that much extra revenue, would be reasonable, assuming we’re really trying to win, and not re-tool.

[markedman5]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/05/astros-acquire-mauricio-dubon.html

[Axman59]

Dubon rocking a 1.7 WAR this season for the Astros.

Ray Black last pitched in the MLB in 2020.

Drew Pomeranz last pitched in the MLB in 2021.

[Brewcrew82]

7 minutes ago, Axman59 said:

Dubon rocking a 1.7 WAR this season for the Astros.

Ray Black last pitched in the MLB in 2020.

Drew Pomeranz last pitched in the MLB in 2021.

And Drew Pomeranz was a big part of why we made the playoffs in 2019. 

With how hot we were, who knows how far we’d have gone had Hader not blown the wild card game.