Game Thread (5/16/2022): Braves (Anderson) at Brewers (Peralta) - 6:40 PM CDT

[homer]

I've seen Arcia flail at that outside pitch a hundred times.

[Brewcrew82]

97 mph on that last fastball from Devin. Now, that is good to see!

[folly412]

Devin feeling well tonight.  When he struggled the other day, he was hitting 94 and not even able to place that well.  Going up the ladder at 97 there.

[jason21nl]

I really enjoy BA being back 

[Brewcrew82]

Another plus is that Spencer Strider will not be starting for the Braves tomorrow. He was rumored to be the most likely candidate. Would've been a probable loss with Houser starting for us. 

[82brewcrew82]

5 minutes ago, RoCoBrewfan said:

• Braves fans be like "our offense sucks"

You forgot "why can't we hit this scrub"

[Sixtolezcano]

8 minutes ago, areacodes said:

The Brewers have scored the 6th most runs per game in MLB.

Reds = 6 games

Cubs = 7 games

Pirates = 6 games

Orioles = 3 games

 

 

[82brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

Reds = 6 games

Cubs = 7 games

Pirates = 6 games

Orioles = 3 games

 

 

Right, because nobody else plays these teams.

[areacodes]

4 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

Reds = 6 games

Cubs = 7 games

Pirates = 6 games

Orioles = 3 games

 

 

I’m sorry, I didn’t realize other teams remove the scrub teams when calculating runs per game.

[folly412]

Pitchers must have gotten a good night's rest after the long road trip.  They were all throwing gas today.

[magnoliacrew]

You make my dreams come true!

[jason21nl]

Just how it’s supposed to go.  Great starting pitching followed by a dominate back end of the pen.  Hader is stupid good.  

[SRB]

Another Williams/Hader doorslam: 6 up, 6 K'd

[Brewcrew82]

Great Win! Vintage performances from Peralta, Williams, and Hader. Nice to see that we're not limited to beating up on "bad" teams. 

[Sixtolezcano]

9 minutes ago, areacodes said:

I’m sorry, I didn’t realize other teams remove the scrub teams when calculating runs per game.

I’m sorry I wasn’t clear. The reason why the Brewers have scored the 6th most runs in the MLB is because the have predominately played teams with poor pitching staffs. 

[SRB]

Just now, Sixtolezcano said:

I’m sorry I wasn’t clear. The reason why the Brewers have scored the 6th most runs in the MLB is because the have predominately played teams with poor pitching staffs.

It's so early in the season that this is somewhat circular though, as the "poor" pitching staffs have been poor in large part because the Brewers beat up on them. We tee'd off on Hunter Greene and he just threw most of a no-hitter last night, for example.

[Sixtolezcano]

4 minutes ago, SRB said:

It's so early in the season that this is somewhat circular though, as the "poor" pitching staffs have been poor in large part because the Brewers beat up on them. We tee'd off on Hunter Greene and he just threw most of a no-hitter last night, for example.

Do you really believe the Brewers offense is top 6? They did make that 1 run count tonight. Great pitched game.

[magnoliacrew]

2 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

Do you really believe the Brewers offense is top 6?

Yes

[SRB]

2 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

Do you really believe the Brewers offense is top 6?

I actually do if Yelich is back to being an All-Star (not quite MVP) caliber hitter. It's a very balanced/deep lineup in that case. Do you think anyone is really overperforming right now? If anything we will get much better once McCutchen/Renfroe start hitting more consistently.

[BruisedCrew]

37 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Don't let facts get in the way of a good narrative....

If you want to look at facts you have to look at all of the relevant ones. In the case of runs scored per game it is relevant who the runs are scored against (not just which teams but which pitchers) and how the runs are distributed among games. 

In the Brewers case, they had that string  of high scoring games against the Cubs, Pirates and Reds that really inflated the R/G number, moving them from near the bottom of MLB to near the top. They have slid back some over the last ten days even with the double digit outburst in the loss to the Reds. 

Not all runs are created equal. Scoring 18 runs in a game by piling it on the back end starters and mop up men (including position players) and then combining that with two shutouts produces a 6 R/G average and a record of 1-2. Scoring 6 runs in each of 3 games produces the same R/G, but very possibly 2 or 3 wins with reasonably effective pitching.

Maybe the Brewers’ overall mix of very high scoring games and very low scoring games is no different than MLB’s top scoring teams, even when taking into account how many games the teams have played against the league’s weakest teams. But it would require a dive deeper than the surface level of R/G.

IMHO, a “narrative” that it might have been expected that the Brewers would have trouble scoring against a pitcher like Ian Anderson is not so easily dismissed. 

 

 

[areacodes]

5 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

I’m sorry I wasn’t clear. The reason why the Brewers have scored the 6th most runs in the MLB is because the have predominately played teams with poor pitching staffs.

The Cubs and Orioles are middle in the pack at runs allowed per game (20th and 16th respectively).  Pirates and Reds are at or near the bottom.

We could do this for every team but you’ll just come up with excuses for why the Brewers don’t belong there but the other teams do.

[KeithStone53151]

8 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

Do you really believe the Brewers offense is top 6? They did make that 1 run count tonight. Great pitched game.

There's like 5 people here including you that come on here and just dunk on the brewers constantly and it's not cute or funny or enjoyable in any way. It's not what most people come here for. There are plenty of people on the cubs forum that would be more than happy to pick this team apart with you and grasp at the straws of why the brewers are trash. 

[adambr2]

I'm more comfortable saying I think the Brewers will have a top 10 offense at the end of the year than I would be comfortable saying top 6.

I think their pitching staff is good enough for a top 10 offense to be good enough to take them a long ways, though. 

[wallus]

Are we ignoring that we didn't have one of our best hitters for the majority of the season?

[DuWayne Steurer]

I'm not worried if they're top 10, or top 6, or top 3 or whatever.  The only thing that I'm worried about, honestly, is if they're good enough to get past the Mets, and then (probably) the Dodgers.

Are the Brewers better than the Dodgers?  Nah.  Can they be for 7 games?  Maybe.  We've seen any number of teams get hot at the right time (or cold.... dun dun dun).  Does this team have a decent mix, especially if we have a decent, .825-ish OPS Yelich in the middle of the order, that could go toe to toe with the Dodgers?  Maybe.  Top 3, 5, 6, 10, doesn't matter.  We have who we have.  We're gonna win the central, barring spectacular catastrophe.  We already know the Dodgers are a "better" team.  Just have to be better for 7 games.