Nationals (Corbin) vs Brewers (Woodruff): 9/17/23, 1:10pm

[yourout]

Garcia 3 for 6 in the series with 2 dingers.

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

He should have 50 more. He's not good enough. Imo.

50 more would put him at 127. That's not realistic.

[yourout]

Might have to outlast Corbin.

Not getting good contact off him.

[Bulldogboy]

1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

50 more would put him at like 120. That's not realistic.

He's not good at taking the easy ones like the one in 1st inning. First pitch pop up is not acceptable. Like I said my opinion but he should be 6 in a good lineup. 

[TURBO]

18 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

The last guy in every team’s bullpen is typically a disaster. Most teams have a couple two tree back there.

That’s why Counsell has limited Chafin’s innings to only 11 since being acquired, which ranks 8th in the bullpen over that stretch.

Pitching your worst reliever the fewest amount of innings and predominantly in low leverage situations seems like a sound strategy.

Except, Chafin was used in the opposite of low leverage not too long ago, with disasterous results.

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Except, Chafin was used in the opposite of low leverage not too long ago, with disasterous results.

Because we were down to the 8th man in the pen due to the offense not being able to score.

[TURBO]

4 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Because we were down to the 8th man in the pen due to the offense not being able to score.

Refresh my memory, who came in and pitched after Chafin?  Must have been our 9th man?

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Refresh my memory, who came in and pitched after Chafin?  Must have been our 9th man?

Counsell said that Milner was only an emergency/last ditch option due to his usage.. Chafin was ahead of him that day. Hope that helps.

[Frisbee Slider]

Adames fun fact: he has .482 OPS with 0-0 count in 2023 (49 AB).

[wibadgers23]

Is it just me or is Santana an absolute groundball machine?

[TURBO]

3 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Counsell said that Milner was only an emergency/last ditch option due to his usage.. Chafin was ahead of him that day. Hope that helps.

There was no circumstance that Chafin should have been used in that situation, none.  Doesn't matter if Milner was an emergency option, in fact, it was an emergency, so Milner should have been used.

Everyone knew it, literally everyone, that using Chafin in that situation was a giant mistake.

Hope that helps.

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, TURBO said:

There was no circumstance that Chafin should have been used in that situation, none.  Doesn't matter if Milner was an emergency option, in fact, it was an emergency, so Milner should have been used.

Everyone knew it, literally everyone, that using Chafin in that situation was a giant mistake.

Hope that helps.

He's in the bullpen. You can't not use him if you're down to your last reliever, which they literally were.

As for Milner, there's a bigger picture here. They need to keep him healthy and effective for the postseason. More than one game. CC realizes this, and it's why we're 6.5 games up.

[sveumrules]

16 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Except, Chafin was used in the opposite of low leverage not too long ago, with disasterous results.

Right, that’s why I said predominantly. 

Of his 13 appearances with the Brewers, three have been high leverage (0913, 0910, 0808), two have been medium leverage (0902, 0805). The remaining eight were low leverage appearances.

[TURBO]

Just now, Brewcrew82 said:

He's in the bullpen. You can't not use him if you're down to your last reliever, which they literally were.

As for Milner, there's a bigger picture here. They need to keep him healthy and effective for the postseason. More than one game. 

No they were not down to their last reliever.  Milner came in and pitched after the Chafin meltdown.

I understand the bigger picture thing, you don't need to continue talking down to me.  I realize what the plan was for Milner's usage that game, however, plans need to change when the situation is warranted.  Using Chafin in that situation was a mistake.  Everyone knew it, every poster in the game thread knew it, but it happened anyway.

Hope that helps.

[Sugarrayray]

Santana is REALLY good at pickin hops at first base.

[Sugarrayray]

9 minutes ago, TURBO said:

There was no circumstance that Chafin should have been used in that situation, none.  Doesn't matter if Milner was an emergency option, in fact, it was an emergency, so Milner should have been used.

Everyone knew it, literally everyone, that using Chafin in that situation was a giant mistake.

Hope that helps.

Yeah for some reason Craig is using Chafin instead of seeing what they have in Veira. And it shouldn’t be the left handed thing because of course Chafin has reverse splits.

[yourout]

This would be a good time for a Menards inning.

[ReverendBrewmeister]

2 minutes ago, Sugarrayray said:

Santana is REALLY good at pickin hops at first base.

Some of the value of picking him up at the trade deadline is definitely the defense that Santana brings. Both the offense and defense at 1st Base had been an issue this season.

[Brewcrew82]

Just now, TURBO said:

No they were not down to their last reliever.  Milner came in and pitched after the Chafin meltdown.

I understand the bigger picture thing, you don't need to continue talking down to me.  I realize what the plan was for Milner's usage that game, however, plans need to change when the situation is warranted.  Using Chafin in that situation was a mistake.  Everyone knew it, every poster in the game thread knew it, but it happened anyway.

Hope that helps.

I'm not talking down to you. And it's funny you say that when you started by responding, "Refresh my memory..." Could certainly be construed as talking down...

He came into the game anyways because the Brewers couldn't score and they had no alternative but to use their emergency option. Chafin was ahead of Milner in the pecking order for that day, with Milner only to be used as a last case scenario (meaning no other relievers left) due to his usage. It was a reasonable decision given the bigger picture that simply didn't work out. 

 

[Frisbee Slider]

13 minutes ago, wibadgers23 said:

Is it just me or is Santana an absolute groundball machine?

45.7% of Santana’s AB are ground balls in 2023.

[Bulldogboy]

It's funny how Brewers acquire guys and all of a sudden they are hitting in the heart of the order. Latest is Donaldson. Crazy stuff.

[jason21nl]

It’s going to happen next inning

[TURBO]

7 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I'm not talking down to you. And it's funny you say that when you started by responding, "Refresh my memory..." Could certainly be construed as talking down...

He came into the game anyways because the Brewers couldn't score and they had no alternative but to use their emergency option. Chafin was ahead of Milner in the pecking order for that day, with Milner only to be used as a last case scenario (meaning no other relievers left) due to his usage. It was a reasonable decision given the bigger picture that simply didn't work out. 

 

Read your own comments in that game thread.  Even you, a company man, thought is was a stupid decision.

No need to continue this discussion, I'm out.

Hope that helps.

[Brewcrew82]

6 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Read your own comments in that game thread.  Even you, a company man, thought is was a stupid decision.

Hope that helps.

Woah. Who's talking down now?? Ridiculous and childish. 

And you can change your mind from the heat of the moment. I did after CC explained post-game Milner's recent usage and the fact that Chafin had been pitching better coming into that game. That's the last I'll say about it. 

[Brewcrew82]

Garcia is now Babe Ruth, I see.