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If the Jays took on all of Yelich's contract and then offered something like Addison Barger and Kendry Rojas (LHP).  I would be all over that.  I think the Brewers would have to take on a portion of Yelich's contract to be able to move him.  Tiedemann is completely off the table in a Yelich trade. 

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What exactly does trading Yelich accomplish for the Brewers at this moment? He's their only major financial commitment throughout the duration of his contract and is not hampering us from being able to upgrade the roster. The only types of players he's preventing us from signing are the ones we'll never have a shot with anyways. 

He's also one of our top bats at a time when we're trying to contend. And the Jays aren't going to offer us much that would help us competitively in future seasons. Plus the NTC, which I highly doubt Yelich is going to waive to go to Toronto.

Maybe reconsider in a year once the young outfielders have had more time to establish themselves, but we kinda need the insurance Yelich's offensive production provides us right now as we're trying to break in the youngsters. I'm skeptical, and we should still be prepared to ride this out like Braun. 

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The only reason he would consider waiving his NTC for Toronto would be because he wants a championship.  He might view them as a lot better shot than Milwaukee.

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2 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

What exactly does trading Yelich accomplish for the Brewers at this moment? He's their only major financial commitment throughout the duration of his contract and is not hampering us from being able to upgrade the roster. The only types of players he's preventing us from signing are the ones we'll never have a shot with anyways. 

 

Maybe the Brewers want to put the Yelich contract money into locking up Burnes?

Just a thought...

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16 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Maybe the Brewers want to put the Yelich contract money into locking up Burnes?

Just a thought...

Not happening. Burnes said it himself. 

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10 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Not happening. Burnes said it himself. 

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That would be a tough one for the Brewers to even approach in dealing with Yelich, the media and the fanbase.

I think it is something that potentially could happen if Yelich has a solid 2024, the team is average and a contender is looking for a guy like Yelich to get them over the top at the deadline. Then Yelich may be more inclined to accept a trade.

 

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I think Toronto would be more interested in Burnes than Yelich.  Bichette and Vlad are both FA's in 2026.  They have one more season of the young players similar to what the Brewers were facing going into 2010 and then into 2011 being Prince's final year. 

Do the Blue Jays think of trading Vlad and Bichette if their season goes bad or do they trade now for someone like Burnes.  Yelich doesn't really make any sense for the Blue Jays.  It just adds salary and doesn't really fix a problem for them.  If the Blue Jays don't sign someone in FA like Yamamoto then I think they will pivot to the trade market.  If the Blue Jays are unwilling to trade Tiedemann then I don't think they are going to get the top pitchers on the trade market.  The Blue Jays secondary prospects are just not worth as much to get a pitcher like Burnes or Cease. 

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22 hours ago, StearnsFTW said:

I'd be surprised if he'd waive his NTC for Toronto.

Why? And for the record, the NTC was only relevant for a short time. He's 10/5 now. 

He may want his final year picked up or something like that, but this would be great. It'd be a pretty clear sign...IMO, that you'd be moving Burnes and entering into a more full reset, but I'd love this. 

22 hours ago, nate82 said:

If the Jays took on all of Yelich's contract and then offered something like Addison Barger and Kendry Rojas (LHP).  I would be all over that.  I think the Brewers would have to take on a portion of Yelich's contract to be able to move him.  Tiedemann is completely off the table in a Yelich trade. 

No, of course they wouldn't give up a top prospect, but I'd take even less.

 

If this happens, I'd be thrilled. I'd feel like I spoke it into existence! But I'd guess by the time this is done, you'd have a nice player going to Toronto(Williams perhaps) or money that probably wouldn't make it as appealing. 

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22 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

What exactly does trading Yelich accomplish for the Brewers at this moment?

Gets us out of a bad contract. If he were a FA, nobody on here would be advocating we give him 5 years 136.5M GTD(Which is what is roughly what he has remaining.

22 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Plus the NTC, which I highly doubt Yelich is going to waive to go to Toronto.

Why? Why do we all doubt that a player who's 10/5...wouldn't be so against going to a world-class city like Toronto? 

Where does this confidence come from? He could. He could just as easily use it to get the final year of his deal picked up by Toronto.

22 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Maybe reconsider in a year once the young outfielders have had more time to establish themselves, but we kinda need the insurance Yelich's offensive production provides us right now as we're trying to break in the youngsters. I'm skeptical, and we should still be prepared to ride this out like Braun. 

Of the last 4 years, he's been pretty bad for 3 of them. 

He's also a guy you suggested couldn't handle 1st base due to his back. So IF some team is interested in him and IF he'd accept the trade, it'd seem kinda of foolish to roll the dice, hope he has another good season...as opposed to another down season or even a solid year where he fades toward the end of it. 

And sure, we probably will end up having to "ride this out like Braun," but I don't get why the Brewers wouldn't be open to this. Why they'd want to wait a year when his value is VERY likely to be lower simply because he's another year older and coming up on what are likely to be the really ugly years. 

 

I didn't think this was actually going to happen when he was hitting really well this past...June or whatever, I doubt it's going to happen now, but this seems like a pretty obvious trade to make unless you'd argue you'd want to pay him the ~5/136.5 he had remaining if he were a FA right now. If the answer to that is no, then the answer to 'is it a good idea to trade him,' has to be pretty obvious.

Plus, there goes the glut of OFers that has been causing so much consternation. 

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31 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

Gets us out of a bad contract. If he were a FA, nobody on here would be advocating we give him 5 years 136.5M GTD(Which is what is roughly what he has remaining.

Why? Why do we all doubt that a player who's 10/5...wouldn't be so against going to a world-class city like Toronto? 

Where does this confidence come from? He could. He could just as easily use it to get the final year of his deal picked up by Toronto.

Of the last 4 years, he's been pretty bad for 3 of them. 

He's also a guy you suggested couldn't handle 1st base due to his back. So IF some team is interested in him and IF he'd accept the trade, it'd seem kinda of foolish to roll the dice, hope he has another good season...as opposed to another down season or even a solid year where he fades toward the end of it. 

And sure, we probably will end up having to "ride this out like Braun," but I don't get why the Brewers wouldn't be open to this. Why they'd want to wait a year when his value is VERY likely to be lower simply because he's another year older and coming up on what are likely to be the really ugly years. 

 

I didn't think this was actually going to happen when he was hitting really well this past...June or whatever, I doubt it's going to happen now, but this seems like a pretty obvious trade to make unless you'd argue you'd want to pay him the ~5/136.5 he had remaining if he were a FA right now. If the answer to that is no, then the answer to 'is it a good idea to trade him,' has to be pretty obvious.

Plus, there goes the glut of OFers that has been causing so much consternation. 

He's one of the two good veteran hitters we have, and his deal isn't that bad. You're talking about a 4.1 fWAR player last year. 

If the Brewers want to contend this year like they've said they want to do, you don't trade that unless it helps you win in future seasons. No team is likely to offer much that would help us in future seasons. 

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