Brewers (Ashby) vs Phillies (Nola): 6/5/24, 3:05pm

[Bulldogboy]

2 minutes ago, Oxy said:

Rickey Henderson led the league in caught stealing 5 times...the amount of outs means nothing in a vacuum.

Outs at home means alot. Especially when you can't score. Not sure what Ricky has to do with anything. 

[Brewcrew82]

Honestly, the Brewers' offense has looked better than the Phillies' offense this series. We just have worse pitchers, which has made the difference. 

[tmwiese55]

Feels so much like the playoffs th last few years.   Get up against good pitching and the O just collapses.  

And somehow how MASH unit of a pitching staff keeps getting results even against a top lineup

[Oxy]

7 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

Outs at home means alot. Especially when you can't score. Not sure what Ricky has to do with anything. 

It wouldn't have mattered.  It was a close play at the plate where the defense made a fantastic play (blocking the plate) to get Contreras by an eyelash.  Had Contreras stayed at 3rd, the Phillies make a super routine throw to first to get the out by 3 steps....and Hoskins STILL pops out to SS to end the inning.

The reward to score there WAY outweighs the risk in going. If Contreras is safe, it is 2-1 AND there is STILL ONLY ONE out!

[Brian]

2 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Honestly, the Brewers' offense has looked better than the Phillies' offense this series. We just have worse pitchers, which has made the difference. 

Also hard hit balls by the Brewers go right at the Philly players. Breaks of the game.

[LouisEly]

44 minutes ago, Oxy said:

Joey doesn't have a gut.  Nor do hardly any of those competitive eaters.  Metabolism is a funny thing.

You don't absorb every calorie that you eat

[Brewcrew82]

This is probably the best pitched series an opponent has given us this year. Just so few pitches to do damage with.  

[Bulldogboy]

Monte for Turang is insane. 

[yourout]

16 scoreless innings to end the series

[Brian]

Now we need a dinger to tie it up.

[wiguy94]

Ump has had a tight zone all game then first pitch of the 9th decides to expand and call strike 1 against Monasterio

[yourout]

2 runs in 28 innings. 

Can't win that way.

[LouisEly]

4 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Ump has had a tight zone all game then first pitch of the 9th decides to expand and call strike 1 against Monasterio

Must have had dinner reservations at Del Frisco

[Gump]

So aggravating man 

[Oxy]

Yucky series...but honestly it could have been a lot worse. This is a good Brewers team.

[Brian]

2 minutes ago, Oxy said:

Yucky series...but honestly it could have been a lot worse. This is a good Brewers team.

Brewers just couldn't come up with one big hit the whole series.

[BruisedCrew]

19 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

Outs at home means alot. Especially when you can't score. Not sure what Ricky has to do with anything. 

Outs at home don’t mean anything unless the runner would have scored if he had held at third and been driven in by the next hitter. 

My guess  is that if every one of the runners thrown out at home had held at third, the Brewers might have scored a couple more runs and it might or might not have led to one more win.

IMHO that’s a big fuss over something that doesn’t happen that often.
 

 

[Brian]

At least Ashby pitched good. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

Here's my microcosm of this series:

You get a runner on 3rd w/one out. The infield is playing back, conceding the run. You hit the ball on the ground, not to the pitcher but one of those infielders. The infielder makes what was IMO a pretty dumb decision & throws home. And you still don't score.

This was the best they swung the bats the entire series, despite being shut out. Not "well", not "good enough", but better than the first two games. Was anyone surprised when Sanchez hit the crap out of the ball in his last AB & Merrifield hardly have to move? For the 3rd straight day, one of their very good starters was pretty much on top of his game. I call it the teeter-totter, where the pitcher has you taking strikes & swinging at balls. Nola did that about as well as you can do it. 

As for Ashby, I talked about him building. He continued that today IMO. But still obviously not there yet. 0-2 to a LHH backup catcher hitting in the 170s & he throws 4 out of the zone. That cost him 10-12 extra pitches. Then the back-to-backs (one to the same guy) was just a killer. I imagine he'll stay here & continue to build. Overall, certainly more good than bad from him.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

The first series of the year that really rewarded the pessimists. 

Let's just get out of Philly, learn, and move on. In baseball, that is the best you can do sometimes.

[yourout]

1 minute ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

The first series of the year that really rewarded the pessimists. 

Let's just get out of Philly, learn, and move on. In baseball, that is the best you can do sometimes.

If they just would have found a way to hang on to that game last night nobody would have gave a rat's rear end what happened today.

[Sixtolezcano]

11 minutes ago, Brian said:

At least Ashby pitched good. 

Except for the 5 walks. Only giving up 2 runs on 2 hits in 5 innings is good.

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 hour ago, Bulldogboy said:

Somebody has to call out the insanity of getting guys thrown out at the plate every single night. It is completely ridiculous. What is happening?

There isn't a manager, 3rd base coach or player anywhere in MLB that isn't going to sign off on Contreras trying to score there, especially with the INF back & probably even if it isn't. The only reason to hold at 3rd in that situation is if you have a time machine & know what's going to happen.

Stubbs bailed out Bohm by getting his foot in (of course) the perfect spot to block Contreras' hand. I mean, with the INF back & one out, you look like a total moron if you DON'T go.

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 hour ago, Devinep said:

Most in baseball. Maybe automatically going to home anytime anyone puts the ball in play is dumb? 

That WOULD be dumb. Thank goodness it isn't what they do.

[Jim French Stepstool]

17 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

Except for the 5 walks. Only giving up 2 runs on 2 hits in 5 innings is good.

I look at it as, he walked five in five innings vs a pretty good lineup & was still one mistake away from 5 shutout. IF he can harness the command a little more & get ahead a little more often he'll help us more in 2024 than I ever thought he would.

Plus in my world, it was four walks. The second walk to Harper was a K for Ashby in a lot of worlds.