Packers 2025 regular season

[adambr2]

It’s absolutely bizarre indeed that the Packers would cut corners and costs on coaching.

It doesn’t count against the cap. They have money. I understand wanting to make sure to take care of your future, but the Packers are one of the most secure franchises in professional sports. They aren’t going out of business. And they aren’t going broke on their coaching hires, even if we want to spend some money.

We can afford over $100M a year on two players but we always have to promote from within because we can’t afford to spend money on a coaching staff?

[homer]

are they actually cheap when it comes to coaching salaries? is that a real thing? I remember the scuttlebutt about the special teams coach a few years ago but is that true across the rest of the staff?

[OldHeidelberg]

1 hour ago, homer said:

are they actually cheap when it comes to coaching salaries? is that a real thing? I remember the scuttlebutt about the special teams coach a few years ago but is that true across the rest of the staff?

I suspect the MLF situation is more of a difference of opinion about his value that has now become a wait and see what it is at end of season. He has a good record but no trophies and a losing playoff record and is in his 7th year. It sounds like they will probably work it out from the Schefter report. 

For the rest I don't think we know the salaries or if they are low. I always thought we paid assistant coaches well until I read that article, it could just be the Packers don't value assistants that highly and feel it is more about the quality of players. That they tend to keep coaches around too long and promote from within certainly isn't a recent development.  

[Mark6887]

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@RapSheet

 

 

The #Packers and coach Matt LaFleur will meet shortly after the season ends to discuss extending his contract, with both sides hoping for a great outcome.

 

[GAME05]

The Falcons just hired Matt Ryan as team president with the special role of leading the search for a new HC and GM. The latest gossip is that Ryan has some slight ties to LaFleur and was hired in no small part to try and pry MLF away from the Packers if we lose to the Bears tonight.

Granted, rumors are worthless.

[adambr2]

Ben Johnson knew exactly what he was doing when he talked about how much he enjoys beating Matt Lafleur twice a year and he did it again.

Lafleur is charmin soft and an absolute choking menace.

[OldHeidelberg]

8 hours ago, GAME05 said:

The Falcons just hired Matt Ryan as team president with the special role of leading the search for a new HC and GM. The latest gossip is that Ryan has some slight ties to LaFleur and was hired in no small part to try and pry MLF away from the Packers if we lose to the Bears tonight.

Granted, rumors are worthless.

That LaFleur might think there are more lucrative paths outside of GB may be our best hope. His price certainly went down tonight for Green Bay. 

[yourout]

8 hours ago, GAME05 said:

The Falcons just hired Matt Ryan as team president with the special role of leading the search for a new HC and GM. The latest gossip is that Ryan has some slight ties to LaFleur and was hired in no small part to try and pry MLF away from the Packers if we lose to the Bears tonight.

Granted, rumors are worthless.

That would be addition by subtraction. Maybe they would swap kickers as well

[adambr2]

You let this happen, Matt. You did this.

I’ll predict the football Gods smiting the Bears next week for their postgame rubbing in our faces. Reminds me a lot of us flying the L flag after Game 7.

[HarveysWBs]

8 hours ago, adambr2 said:

You let this happen, Matt. You did this.

I’ll predict the football Gods smiting the Bears next week for their postgame rubbing in our faces. Reminds me a lot of us flying the L flag after Game 7.

It was over when the Ravens came to Lambeau with the foam cheese grater hats and, in MLF’s own words “big boyed us.” I mean, the definition of an average team from a different conference who has absolutely zero reason to have any strong feelings about us came to our house with those hats and rubbed it in our face. We are no longer a serious organization. We exist as an idea only, and not one with any gravitas. We’re the ones other teams schedule for homecoming so all the fans can go home happy and the team captains get lucky at the dance the next night.

As mentioned in the game day thread, the brass has lost Silverstein and James Jones. Silverstein, the dean of Packers journalists, who has to walk into that building and retain working relationships with a team known to be quite prickly about media connections, is calling publicly for change. And Jones isn’t just a beloved former player. He’s practically a member of the org since he’s on the Packers Radio Network broadcast all the time and reps the team everywhere. This regime is over. The only question now is does Policy see it’s over and how does he move on from here.

[JosephC]

14 minutes ago, HarveysWBs said:

It was over when the Ravens came to Lambeau with the foam cheese grater hats and, in MLF’s own words “big boyed us.” I mean, the definition of an average team from a different conference who has absolutely zero reason to have any strong feelings about us came to our house with those hats and rubbed it in our face. We are no longer a serious organization. We exist as an idea only, and not one with any gravitas. We’re the ones other teams schedule for homecoming so all the fans can go home happy and the team captains get lucky at the dance the next night.

As mentioned in the game day thread, the brass has lost Silverstein and James Jones. Silverstein, the dean of Packers journalists, who has to walk into that building and retain working relationships with a team known to be quite prickly about media connections, is calling publicly for change. And Jones isn’t just a beloved former player. He’s practically a member of the org since he’s on the Packers Radio Network broadcast all the time and reps the team everywhere. This regime is over. The only question now is does Policy see it’s over and how does he move on from here.

You think the Packers are the Jets.  The Packers are not the Jets.  The Packers are an 9-8 team that will go to the playoff and will lose their first game.  In the last four years, there has been one better season and one worse season...but basically anybody who looks at that last four years will conclude the same thing.  Above-average football organization, nothing more, nothing less.

[HarryDoyle]

23 minutes ago, HarveysWBs said:

It was over when the Ravens came to Lambeau with the foam cheese grater hats and, in MLF’s own words “big boyed us.” I mean, the definition of an average team from a different conference who has absolutely zero reason to have any strong feelings about us came to our house with those hats and rubbed it in our face. We are no longer a serious organization. We exist as an idea only, and not one with any gravitas. We’re the ones other teams schedule for homecoming so all the fans can go home happy and the team captains get lucky at the dance the next night.

As mentioned in the game day thread, the brass has lost Silverstein and James Jones. Silverstein, the dean of Packers journalists, who has to walk into that building and retain working relationships with a team known to be quite prickly about media connections, is calling publicly for change. And Jones isn’t just a beloved former player. He’s practically a member of the org since he’s on the Packers Radio Network broadcast all the time and reps the team everywhere. This regime is over. The only question now is does Policy see it’s over and how does he move on from here.

I honestly don't understand why Hafley is such a hot head coaching candidate. Reports are that the Raiders and Dolphins have interest in him. I wouldn't mind him continuing to be DC here, but his defense has also had its fair share of clunkers this year. He strikes me as a Raheem Morris/Steve Spagnola type of coach. Solid coordinator, lousy head coach.

[adambr2]

One other thing. 
 

Rashan Gary is absolute cheeks. What a bust.

[yourout]

4 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

One other thing. 
 

Rashan Gary is absolute cheeks. What a bust.

Hasn't been the same since the knee injury.

[LouisEly]

4 hours ago, HarveysWBs said:

It was over when the Ravens came to Lambeau with the foam cheese grater hats and, in MLF’s own words “big boyed us.”

It was over when Parsons and Wyatt went on IR.

[LouisEly]

On 1/10/2026 at 2:06 PM, GAME05 said:

The Falcons just hired Matt Ryan as team president with the special role of leading the search for a new HC and GM. The latest gossip is that Ryan has some slight ties to LaFleur and was hired in no small part to try and pry MLF away from the Packers if we lose to the Bears tonight.

Granted, rumors are worthless.

If the Falcons dangle a 1st round pick, I'd hope that Gutey jumps on that.

Even a 2nd round pick I'd be on board with.

[adambr2]

1 hour ago, LouisEly said:

It was over when Parsons and Wyatt went on IR.

George Kittle tore his Achilles today. Had the 49ers lost, no doubt that would be a talking point. Of course, not just that one injury, but the many key injuries they’ve suffered this year.

They overcame and won. We melted down and lost.

Stark difference between the two organizations as they are right now.

[HarryDoyle]

Apparently, this was said in 2022 when preparing his Jets team for their game against the Packers. Three years later, it looks like he's right.

 

 

[GAME05]

2 hours ago, adambr2 said:

They overcame and won. We melted down and lost.

SF also didn't have five weeks to plan for his absence, a 1st rounder to replace him and another highly paid TE on the other side of the line. Or a huge lead in the game. Or six previous years of playoff failure. But SF still had Purdy, who I assume has won three MVPs in a row since two is obviously not sufficient to have a good team. Granted, it surprised the Eagles, too, so I'm sure if you went back and looked at the Packers game when Parsons went down, you'll see MlF really coached his rear off in that game and we came out winners, too.

[adambr2]

10 hours ago, GAME05 said:

SF also didn't have five weeks to plan for his absence, a 1st rounder to replace him and another highly paid TE on the other side of the line. Or a huge lead in the game. Or six previous years of playoff failure. But SF still had Purdy, who I assume has won three MVPs in a row since two is obviously not sufficient to have a good team. Granted, it surprised the Eagles, too, so I'm sure if you went back and looked at the Packers game when Parsons went down, you'll see MlF really coached his rear off in that game and we came out winners, too.

It’s kind of eerie if you see how consistent the Packers are at melting down when they face adversity. It is absolutely a coaching/leadership issue.

[HarveysWBs]

For whatever it’s worth, the reporting this morning is that the team still wants an extension with LaFleur. Maybe it’s all distraction, maybe they’re stringing things along because a team might actually be interested in trading for him, I don’t know, but I doubt it.

If they run this back with the same staff, I think I’m out next year for my own good. I’ll record the games and watch a non-frustrating win if I have the time, or have it on as background, but I’m not subjecting myself to this anymore. The culture is ruined, the players know it and are saying it publicly (see Quay Walker), and extending LaFleur now is the height of folly.

[OldHeidelberg]

6 minutes ago, HarveysWBs said:

For whatever it’s worth, the reporting this morning is that the team still wants an extension with LaFleur. Maybe it’s all distraction, maybe they’re stringing things along because a team might actually be interested in trading for him, I don’t know, but I doubt it.

If they run this back with the same staff, I think I’m out next year for my own good. I’ll record the games and watch a non-frustrating win if I have the time, or have it on as background, but I’m not subjecting myself to this anymore. The culture is ruined, the players know it and are saying it publicly (see Quay Walker), and extending LaFleur now is the height of folly.

I think they will try to get him on a 2 year extension, the question is if it is fair market value or if MLF wants a longer deal. But like you say if they want to trade him this is how they start that process.  

[JosephC]

ESPN must just love LaFleur.  Every article about him says 76-40-1.  They completely ignore the 3-6 playoff record.  They completely ignore that he is 38-34-1 in the last 73 games (including playoffs).  Lots of other coaches would get a "but" after their overall regular season record is posted, but not with LaFleur.

Frankly, this organization has moved from great/good to very, very average since the core of the Thompson/McCarthy era disintegrated and the team became a Gutekunst/LaFleur assemblage.

[GAME05]

3 hours ago, OldHeidelberg said:

I think they will try to get him on a 2 year extension

A short-term extension doesn't make much sense from LaFleur's perspective. Why accept a contract which says you're not trusted and on a short leash, especially when there's gotta be a few teams who'd hire you as HC. 

[JosephC]

When was the last time an NFL head coach was retained because a buyout was prohibitive?  There may be examples, I can't think of one.  Also, how many NFL coaches get fired after year one of a multi-year deal?  Seems to me there are plenty of examples of those.  I don't think the length of extension means anything.  Gutekunst and/or LaFleur could each get a 5 year contract, and if the team goes 5-12 in 2026, both of those guys would be fired (and in the case of the head coach, maybe before the season was over).