Phillies at Brewers; Thursday, September 4 @ 3:10 p.m.: Freddy Peralta (2.58 ERA, 3.60 FIP) vs. Ranger Suárez (3.02 ERA, 3.04 FIP)

[BruisedCrew]

Going all out on avoiding LH hitters against Suarez. Both Turang and Frelick on the bench. 

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

2 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

Going all out on avoiding LH hitters against Suarez. Both Turang and Frelick on the bench. 

That checks out. Suarez is pretty tough overall, but especially so on lefties this season (.497 OPS)

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Devin Williams was like the worst good pitcher we ever had. I thought his meltdown was just so predictable. He is just not a mentally strong guy.

[Oxy]

3 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Devin Williams was like the worst good pitcher we ever had. I thought his meltdown was just so predictable. He is just not a mentally strong guy.

He got royally screwed yesterday...they were bad calls with 2 outs and the bases loaded.  It's a shame when it's a full count, bases loaded and 2 outs tie game in the 8th or 9th and a guy takes a borderline pitch.  ABS will help a little, but I feel like close pitches (like within an inch) in that situation should actually be do-overs, like a foul ball.  It's just a really stupid way to win or lose a ballgame for both sides.

[RWeeksFan23]

21 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

 

maybe yelich's back wouldn't have flared up if murphy would give him a day off here and there. 

Dude probably started every one of those 19 games in 18 days.

[Fear The Chorizo]

3 minutes ago, Oxy said:

He got royally screwed yesterday...they were bad calls with 2 outs and the bases loaded.  It's a shame when it's a full count, bases loaded and 2 outs tie game in the 8th or 9th and a guy takes a borderline pitch.  ABS will help a little, but I feel like close pitches (like within an inch) in that situation should actually be do-overs, like a foul ball.  It's just a really stupid way to win or lose a ballgame for both sides.

Disagree - when you think of it, both the pitcher and the hitter put those type of game-altering call in the hands of someone/something they can't control by nibbling or opting not to swing on a close pitch they probably weren't going to do anything with.  If a 50/50 call doesn't go their way, it's a tough pill to swallow but it's still on them.  Williams can also avoid that situation by being better earlier in the inning (hell earlier in the counts) to not even be in a jam.

ABS is just going to make both pitchers and hitters struggle who to blame for a "bad call" leading to an outcome they don't like.  It does need to be implemented to take the egregious ball-strike calls out of the equation that can swing how at bats go in key situations.  

[tmwiese55]

23 minutes ago, RWeeksFan23 said:

maybe yelich's back wouldn't have flared up if murphy would give him a day off here and there. 

Dude probably started every one of those 19 games in 18 days.

He was given at least one day off.     And keep in mind they were missing 3 OFs in the rotation for a chunk of that span with Chourio, Collins, Perkins. Four if you count backup OF Bauers. Frelick I think even got hurt for a few days in there.  At one point they were having to start someone named Steward Berroa for a few days.

In spite of all that, Yelich also DHd most of the time which is about as easy as one can take it in baseball.

[RobertCrawley]

30 minutes ago, RWeeksFan23 said:

maybe yelich's back wouldn't have flared up if murphy would give him a day off here and there. 

Dude probably started every one of those 19 games in 18 days.

I wish you were the manager of the Milwaukee Brewers.

[Frisbee Slider]

50 minutes ago, RWeeksFan23 said:

maybe yelich's back wouldn't have flared up if murphy would give him a day off here and there. 

I do agree there should be more of a middle ground between Yelich starting seven days a week and being on the injured list

[shanedog19]

Big game today. They have a chance to pull 6.5 games ahead of the Cubs, and 6.5 games ahead of the Phillies. That lead against the Phillies would effectively be 7 games with the tiebreaker. With 21 games left to go after today, you would have to feel pretty good about both of those races.

[RobertCrawley]

Janson has been hitting the ball a little bit lately. Let's hope he contributes today!

[RobertCrawley]

I miss those arguments early in the year that Freddy is not an ace.

[Bulldogboy]

Swing the bat fellas

[RobertCrawley]

Vaughn is due.

[Team Canada]

1 hour ago, Oxy said:

He got royally screwed yesterday...they were bad calls with 2 outs and the bases loaded. 

The based loaded walk I saw a highlight of was clearly a ball.

[edfunderburk]

14 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

Janson has been hitting the ball a little bit lately. Let's hope he contributes today!

Jansen?

[Underachiever]

Cool but beautiful at the park.

[edfunderburk]

Just now, Team Canada said:

The based loaded walk I saw a highlight of was clearly a ball.

I was watching live … the last pitch was a ball … earlier in the count, a strike was called a ball. That said - he was wild overall & once again deserved to lose. What a terrible year he’s had in NY. I wonder what team will take a flyer on him 8n 2026 & for how much. He’s cost himself millions of $. 

 

[edfunderburk]

4 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

Vaughn is due.

Overdue?

[edfunderburk]

11 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

I miss those arguments early in the year that Freddy is not an ace.

He is having an excellent year … but I still don’t enjoy watching him most innings for fear of his loading the bases or throwing too many pitches. IMO … an “ace” goes six regularly & more occasionally. 

[HarryDoyle]

Apple TV tomorrow again? How many of these games are we going to get?

[Bulldogboy]

I saw an article this week where Freddy 8 million option was a question for Brewers. If that's an issue fold the franchise. 

[RobertCrawley]

2 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

He is having an excellent year … but I still don’t enjoy watching him most innings for fear of his loading the bases or throwing too many pitches. IMO … an “ace” goes six regularly & more occasionally. 

26 scoreless innings. NL pitcher of the month in August.  Most teams would like that from their number one.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Murphy is spot-on with Yelich's back and you can tell which posters just don't have any experience with that sort of thing. I had the exact procedure that Yelich had. "Rest" doesn't help you, it doesn't have anything to do with it. 

Once you've had that injury, your spine will never be what it was. You can have surgery and do yoga and strengthen all those core muscles, which he has clearly done to be as effective as he is, but all it takes is one slip, one goofy step off a staircase, sitting in a stool just precisely the wrong way, and you're flared up and have to start over. The worst part is that "rest" as people know it just makes everything worse. Once you're hurt, you have to strike a perfect balance between activity and rest. 

You need to be active enough to keep things loose there, but not so much you make the strain worse. And you have to keep that game going until things feel good again, which can be days or weeks. Back stuff is completely unpredictable. But giving him a random day off when he feels healthy isn't going to help him and mixing in a random day off isn't anywhere close to the time it takes for a nerve to reheal or for a partial reherniation to subside. 

 

 

[Bulldogboy]

1 hour ago, Oxy said:

He got royally screwed yesterday...they were bad calls with 2 outs and the bases loaded.  It's a shame when it's a full count, bases loaded and 2 outs tie game in the 8th or 9th and a guy takes a borderline pitch.  ABS will help a little, but I feel like close pitches (like within an inch) in that situation should actually be do-overs, like a foul ball.  It's just a really stupid way to win or lose a ballgame for both sides.

I mean his market is definitely depressed. I would take him back depending on the price and make him a set up man.