3B Caleb Durbin, SS Andrew Monasterio, Util Anthony Seigler and Comp B pick traded to Red Sox for LHP Kyle Harrison, LHP Shane Drohan and 2B/SS David Hamilton

[wallus]

3 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Like I said above. These are multi- million dollar businesses, they don’t go into off season roster building shooting from the hip or making it up as they go along with no contingency plans.

I can only assume they wanted Harrison/ young SP all off season, and wanted him badly enough to trade their starting 3B to get him. 

The 3B free agents left are all garbage. Maybe they can wait Urias out as a band aid, but if he was a player who they really viewed as an improvement over what’s in house, they would likely have acquired him already. 

Urias wasn't claimed in November because we had Durbin. I'm repeating it because it isn't difficult to understand why they would not have claimed him then. The Red Sox missed out on Bregman and the price for Paredes was higher than they wanted to pay. The Brewers took advantage of the situation by getting a couple of pitchers that they liked and that very well could help them out this year. Durbin had decent results but poor underlying metrics. It is quite possible that they felt he was due for regression.

The Brewers almost went to arbitration with Contreras over 1.4 mil. Of course they would care about 2.5-3 mil in savings if possible.

Urias is brought up because he's available, not expensive and very likely would accept a one year contract. You claim that all the free agents left are garbage. Fine. It is easy to be dismissive when you do not suggest realistic alternatives.

[brewerfan82]

11 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Maybe they can wait Urias out as a band aid, but if he was a player who they really viewed as an improvement over what’s in house, they would likely have acquired him already. 

Can't that be said about all teams? Are you expecting him not to get signed by anyone at this point? Things change, strategies are adjusted, plan A's move to plan B's and C's.

[Team Canada]

You could argue that if they wanted Urias at this moment in time they would have signed him already since the time Durbin was traded, but you can't argue that about November.

[wiguy94]

8 hours ago, Turning2 said:

18 stolen bags as a rookie isn't bad. He set the Arizona Fall League with SB's too, His big league SB numbers will likely increase this year. 

18 SB to 6 CS isn't a great ratio. His wSB was only 0.3 so his basestealing was basically average. He's also more above average speed than fast with a 70th percentile sprint speed. Maybe he can improve but I'd bet it would be a marginal improvement.

[wiguy94]

6 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

Why does a contrary opinion have to be pessimism?

Posters would probably be more willing to give you the benefit of the doubt if you weren't taking a contrarian opinion 90+% of the time. When someone so consistently is taking a contrarian view it feels pretty natural to just consider them a negative/pessimistic poster.

[Jopal78]

55 minutes ago, wallus said:

Urias wasn't claimed in November because we had Durbin. I'm repeating it because it isn't difficult to understand why they would not have claimed him then. The Red Sox missed out on Bregman and the price for Paredes was higher than they wanted to pay. The Brewers took advantage of the situation by getting a couple of pitchers that they liked and that very well could help them out this year. Durbin had decent results but poor underlying metrics. It is quite possible that they felt he was due for regression.

The Brewers almost went to arbitration with Contreras over 1.4 mil. Of course they would care about 2.5-3 mil in savings if possible.

Urias is brought up because he's available, not expensive and very likely would accept a one year contract. You claim that all the free agents left are garbage. Fine. It is easy to be dismissive when you do not suggest realistic alternatives.

I think it’s pretty apparent they intend to at least give it a whirl with who they have in house, or a trade of some sort which is why I didn’t suggest alternatives. 
 

The Contreras comment above isn’t relevant to anything, of course they were going to go to hearing over a seemingly small amount, arbitration salaries are about the comps. 

54 minutes ago, brewerfan82 said:

Can't that be said about all teams? Are you expecting him not to get signed by anyone at this point? Things change, strategies are adjusted, plan A's move to plan B's and C's.

Fair question. On MLB’s website it notes DeJong (1.9 WAR in ‘24-25) signed a minor league deal. Rengifo (1.5 WAR) is unsigned.
 

They play for money, So maybe Urias is mulling multiple guaranteed offers, or maybe he is waiting for a guarantee of any sort. Maybe he prefers to sit out a year than slum it on an NRI. We don’t know. We do however know if someone wanted him badly enough he would be signed by now.  

[wallus]

6 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

I think it’s pretty apparent they intend to at least give it a whirl with who they have in house, which is why I didn’t suggest alternatives. 
 

The Contreras comment above isn’t relevant to anything, of course they were going to go to hearing over a seemingly small amount, it’s about the comps. 

Fair question. On MLB’s website it notes DeJong (1.9 WAR in ‘24-25) signed a minor league deal. Rengifo (1.5 WAR) is unsigned.
 

They play for money, So maybe Urias is mulling multiple guaranteed offers, or maybe he is waiting for a guarantee of any sort. Maybe he prefers to sit out a year than slum it on an NRI. We don’t know. We do however know if someone wanted him badly enough he would be signed by now.  

Why is it apparent they intend to go with who they have? It looked like they would go ahead with McGuire as the backup catcher until they signed Sanchez. They signed Quintana late in the offseason last season. Arnold always mentions that the roster is fluid and changes. 

Urias has to agree to a contract. There are plenty of reasons as to why he hasn't agreed yet.

By your logic, no one wants Gallen badly enough either.

[Jopal78]

45 minutes ago, wallus said:

Why is it apparent they intend to go with who they have? It looked like they would go ahead with McGuire as the backup catcher until they signed Sanchez. They signed Quintana late in the offseason last season. Arnold always mentions that the roster is fluid and changes. 

Urias has to agree to a contract. There are plenty of reasons as to why he hasn't agreed yet.

By your logic, no one wants Gallen badly enough either.

What’s your point? Perhaps your time would be better spent reading and thinking about what you read than arguing for the sake of doing it with nothing to say . The GMs own words from a few days ago are below:

 

As for contracts, it is professional sports, the athletes play for money and 97% of them don’t give a crap where they do it so long as the pay is right.

So yeah, you’re  100% right Gallen has a dollar amount he wants to play for, and nobody wants him badly enough  to pay that number so he’s sitting home.

Eventually a team will either come up with the money he wants, or he’ll change his mind and play for less. Not rocket science. 
 

 

[wallus]

24 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

What’s your point? Perhaps your time would be better spent reading and thinking about what you read than arguing for the sake of doing it with nothing to say .

If you want to know why you get the reactions/comments you do, it's because of posts like this.....

[brewerfan82]

Fyi, not sure if/when there might be a video available online, but I just saw Murph interviewed on MLB Network and when asked about the third base situation he started off with something along the lines of "I'm not sure I can answer that yet because I don't think it's done yet but..." 🤔 He went on to praise the current players and the young guys on the way, and that intro could have totally just been about the prospects still on their way, but I thought it was interesting and if someone can find a clip to post, it was an interesting interview and relevant to this discussion. 

Edit: It's also possible he said that because he doesn't know if the Durbin trade is officially done yet too? But regardless it'd be fun to hear others' interpretations if we can find that video :)

[wiguy94]

51 minutes ago, brewerfan82 said:

Fyi, not sure if/when there might be a video available online, but I just saw Murph interviewed on MLB Network and when asked about the third base situation he started off with something along the lines of "I'm not sure I can answer that yet because I don't think it's done yet but..." 🤔 He went on to praise the current players and the young guys on the way, and that intro could have totally just been about the prospects still on their way, but I thought it was interesting and if someone can find a clip to post, it was an interesting interview and relevant to this discussion. 

Edit: It's also possible he said that because he doesn't know if the Durbin trade is officially done yet too? But regardless it'd be fun to hear others' interpretations if we can find that video :)

Durbin trade is definitely officially done. Durbin was at Boston's ST and getting interviewed.

[StearnsFTW]

12 hours ago, Turning2 said:

18 stolen bags as a rookie isn't bad. He set the Arizona Fall League with SB's too, His big league SB numbers will likely increase this year. 

I'd be very surprised. 

[bensheeps]

2 hours ago, brewerfan82 said:

Fyi, not sure if/when there might be a video available online, but I just saw Murph interviewed on MLB Network and when asked about the third base situation he started off with something along the lines of "I'm not sure I can answer that yet because I don't think it's done yet but

https://www.mlb.com/brewers/video/pat-murphy-on-jacob-misiorowski-options-at-third

Talk of 3rd base is later on in the clip after misiorowski talk.

[brewerfan82]

1 hour ago, bensheeps said:

https://www.mlb.com/brewers/video/pat-murphy-on-jacob-misiorowski-options-at-third

Talk of 3rd base is later on in the clip after misiorowski talk.

Thanks! The exchange about 3rd base was:

Tom Verducci: "Well give me an idea of what you're looking at at third base for instance."

Pat Murphy: "I don't think I could tell you the full picture right now because I don't think it's over..."

[MNBrew]

1 hour ago, StearnsFTW said:

14 hours ago, Turning2 said:

18 stolen bags as a rookie isn't bad. He set the Arizona Fall League with SB's too, His big league SB numbers will likely increase this year. 

I'd be very surprised. 

I agree with both points.  Durbin had 506 PAs last year.  Assuming he's healthy & productive, he could exceed 600 this year, thus his SB count could increase.  In a vacuum, I also think he's capable of more than he got last year even with the same number of PAs.  Yet if Boston doesn't take a Brewers-style aggressive baserunning approach, then Durbin could be reined in a bit & see his numbers drop in spite of increased PAs.

[StearnsFTW]

9 hours ago, MNBrew said:

I agree with both points.  Durbin had 506 PAs last year.  Assuming he's healthy & productive, he could exceed 600 this year, thus his SB count could increase.  In a vacuum, I also think he's capable of more than he got last year even with the same number of PAs.  Yet if Boston doesn't take a Brewers-style aggressive baserunning approach, then Durbin could be reined in a bit & see his numbers drop in spite of increased PAs.

Yeah I was under the assumption that the Red Sox didn't run much, but they did last year, so I'll amend my comment to "a little surprised".  They were 6th in SB last year. 

I wouldn't consider Durbin a "base stealer" really though.  He's not great at it, but yeah with more PA he may surpass 18.

 

[rickmanningfan]

I wonder what kind of shape Brauny is in.  He used to play a little 3b ...

[Frisbee Slider]

14 minutes ago, rickmanningfan said:

I wonder what kind of shape Brauny is in.  He used to play a little 3b ...

[CheezWizHed]

1 hour ago, rickmanningfan said:

I wonder what kind of shape Brauny is in.  He used to play a little 3b ...

Meh... he couldn't even beat Keon Braxton in a HR contest! 😂

[Jim Goulart]

 

[liveforoctober]

9 games in... (using ESPN stats)

MLB Batting All MLB Third Baseman Stat Leaders, 2026 Regular Season - ESPN

Durbin (-.2) and Mona (.1) have combined for -.1 WAR. (Seigler injured)

Harrison (.3) and Hamilton (.5) have combined for .8WAR

Almost a full win difference in a week and a half ... and now we are going to see if Drohan adds to that or not this week.

Hamilton is listed as a 2B on ESPN but if he was a 3B he would be tied for 3rd in all of baseball for WAR amongst 3B to start the season. His OBP is 12th best in ALL of baseball.

Still way too soon to call it. But holy buckets what a trade out of the gates..

[Jopal78]

2 hours ago, liveforoctober said:

9 games in... (using ESPN stats)

MLB Batting All MLB Third Baseman Stat Leaders, 2026 Regular Season - ESPN

Durbin (-.2) and Mona (.1) have combined for -.1 WAR. (Seigler injured)

Harrison (.3) and Hamilton (.5) have combined for .8WAR

Almost a full win difference in a week and a half ... and now we are going to see if Drohan adds to that or not this week.

Hamilton is listed as a 2B on ESPN but if he was a 3B he would be tied for 3rd in all of baseball for WAR amongst 3B to start the season. His OBP is 12th best in ALL of baseball.

Still way too soon to call it. But holy buckets what a trade out of the gates..

Woah. Dig the optimism but it’s been 9 games. 
 

After the dust clears, these trades tend to be a wash as far as which player provided more value. Heck Adames was a 14 WAR player in his time with the Brewers and that was said to be such a win for the Brewers yet Rasmussen is at 11.6 WAR for the Rays and isn’t a free agent until 2028.