Will MIL ever have another Yount type HOF'er?

[Turning2]

To be more specific, I mean a player drafted and developed, and who played the entirety of his career in MIL? Doubtful because they can't afford to retain their HOF level talent. They might not even be able to have another Molitor type HOF player who played the majority of his career in MIL building his larger body of HOF work. Seems like Chourio is their only slim chance at this point due to the out of the ordinary early and long extension. 

 

[tmwiese55]

I'd say yes.  First, the new CBA could really help this type of thing happen in the future.  Second, as you said Chourio has a real shot at least the  Molitor type.  Its definitely possible that a few years from now they try to add more years to his deal and essentially make him a lifer. Top of my head, something along the line of guaranteeing the options years and then adding on 3ish pricey years. Basically similar to what they did with Braun.

Also, without the PED suspension there is a good chance they would have just gotten one in Braun. He'd have been right on the fence without the PED and hand injury. 

[Turning2]

Yes, the new CBA could have a serious impact on this matter. I suspect it won’t be to small market benefit, but hope I’m wrong. 

[owbc]

Could definitely be Chourio and I agree that the CBA would be the ticket if they incentivize it with something like a franchise tag or supermax. 

[CheeseheadInQC]

Are there many period? I skimmed the active WAR leaderboard, and unless I missed someone, once you get past the Trout/Judge/Ramirez/Altuve quartet, I think the next highest single-team player is Aaron Nola. And I am not 100% convinced Trout remains an Angel his whole career.

[Brewcrew82]

Chourio and Made (if he's extended) are easily your best shot. 

Mis is probably out of the realm of possibility for an extension at this point, but if he wins a Cy Young this year and has his best years in MIL during his prime, he'd probably go in as a Brewer. Which is good because with starting pitchers not logging as many innings and breaking down more frequently than ever, we're going to have to put more emphasis on peak production or otherwise not have any more starting pitchers inducted into the HOF. 

[Thurston Fluff]

I think Yelich and Braun both show it's possible. Granted Yelich is not a life long brewer and Braun will never be in the HOF due to PEDs but both show the Brewers can afford to and are willing under the right circumstances. 

[Turning2]

2 hours ago, CheeseheadInQC said:

Are there many period? I skimmed the active WAR leaderboard, and unless I missed someone, once you get past the Trout/Judge/Ramirez/Altuve quartet, I think the next highest single-team player is Aaron Nola. And I am not 100% convinced Trout remains an Angel his whole career.

It's rarified air no doubt. I can view Molitor as a Brewer in the HOF as he played roughly 75% of his career there. I was just thinking about how currently you might have a stud for about 6-7 years before he moves on and further distinguished himself as a HOF'er. And that's where it gets challenging for a fan base or franchise to claim ownership of the player being one of their HOF'ers. 

I am seeing some mention of the owners suggesting a "cornerstone" player designation that should help retain core stars.

[Jopal78]

The Brewers  will likely never have another Hall of Famer who identifies primarily as a Brewer. Probably more the Trevor Hoffman, Dave Parker types.

Chourio, for example,  would have to step up his game considerably to reach the counting stats generally required to make the Hall of Fame. At his current pace. He’d have to play until he was 40 years old to get to 500 Home runs, and even longer to get to 3000 hits. 

[baseball101]

20 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

The Brewers  will likely never have another Hall of Famer who identifies primarily as a Brewer. Probably more the Trevor Hoffman, Dave Parker types.

Chourio, for example,  would have to step up his game considerably to reach the counting stats generally required to make the Hall of Fame. At his current pace. He’d have to play until he was 40 years old to get to 500 Home runs, and even longer to get to 3000 hits. 

Counting stats are going to be adjusted downward. Look at the average OPS and every hitting metric over the last 25 years. An 800 Ops will be equivalent to 900 as time goes on. My favorite player ever is Yount, however those players just don’t compare to the current players. It’s insane how much more skilled, conditioned, trained athletes are now in every single sport.

[baseball101]

I also look at the Miz. If we are comparing him vs history and counting stats I just don’t see anyway possible he would ever qualify. I’m hoping MLB adjusts these “requirements “ at some point.

[tmwiese55]

Yes Chourio would still have to make a significant step up to true star, top 8ish player in the league level, like most HOFers do.  But if he does get to that peak for a while him starting so young is a huge boost to said counting stats. He's gonna have 60-80 HRs in before many players even debut, even if they came at time when he was still getting his feet wet and was just ok, not true star level.

[liveforoctober]

I'm not saying anything as far as expectation goes... But funny this question is raised shortly after we just signed and promoted the most Robin Yount looking thing we've had in a long time... and at his position too.