Mets fans wanting Stearns gone!

[TURBO]

Boy is he taking heat from Mets fans.  I've seen a ton of stuff, but this meme is too good not to share!

[TURBO]

Here is an example of a post from a Mets fan on social media.  Yeah, they are not happy...

 

 

Mets Fans For Life  · 

Cesar Bee ·Sdtsonorepc4:1 yumfhseic0gu7tg455ia77ceM a7h714Ydt5l lrPg3im ·

 

I can’t stay quiet anymore. I’ve been paying attention from a distance, watching everything unfold, and at this point I have to speak my mind.

 

I’ve stayed quiet long enough, but after everything that’s happened, it’s time to speak up. What David Stearns did to this organization feels deliberate, and the worst part is that Cohen let it happen. This isn’t emotion. This is looking at the facts and calling it exactly what it is.

 

Real die‑hard Mets fans never cared about age or decline when it came to Pete Alonso. He was the face of the Mets. A loyal face. The guy who carried this franchise through everything. Even in a slump, he came through when it mattered. He was our identity, our heartbeat, our franchise. This man won Home Run Derbies for New York. He showed out in All‑Star Games. He brought home trophies, moments, and pride. He gave this city electricity. He gave us something to look forward to when the season felt dead. Alonso wasn’t just a player. He was the one constant, the one star who always showed up for New York. And to me, he was a bigger Met than Soto and Lindor combined. He meant more to this city than both of them.

 

And the wildest part is this. The GM whose season we ended because of Alonso’s home run off Devin Williams in Milwaukee came to New York and just let Alonso walk. No real offer. No fight. Nothing. Then he let Edwin Díaz walk too because he wouldn’t match a little bit more money. And for what? To bring in the same pitcher Alonso crushed in that moment. That doesn’t feel like a mistake. That feels intentional.

 

And let’s talk about the farm system. Stearns didn’t just make trades. He destroyed the future. He traded Drew Gilbert, Luisangel Acuña, Jett Williams, Blade Tidwell, Christian Scott. He emptied the entire pipeline. He handed Milwaukee better prospects than they ever had when he was their own GM. He gutted the core, gutted the depth, gutted the identity, and replaced it with Milwaukee players and Milwaukee philosophy. He didn’t build the Mets. He rebuilt the Brewers with our resources.

 

And here’s the part that makes it even worse. Look at the records this season. Milwaukee is one of the best teams in baseball. The Mets are one of the worst. The Brewers are thriving without Stearns. The Mets are collapsing with him. That tells you everything about who really built what.

 

The moment that really hit me happened when I saw that TikTok clip of Mets fans chanting “Pete Alonso” while Devin Williams was pitching. That’s when everything clicked. I wasn’t the only one feeling this way. The fans feel the disconnect. The fans feel the disrespect. The fans feel exactly what Stearns took away from us.

 

And I’ll be real. I’ve been a distant fan ever since he let Alonso go. It didn’t feel right. It didn’t sit right. Something was off from the moment that decision was made. They had such a powerful, magical team at that point, and Cohen hires a GM from the same franchise we eliminated?

 

Unreal.

 

Cohen is a lifelong Mets fan who bought this team in 2020 and finally gave us something to cheer about. So from a Mets fan perspective, why bring in a GM who wasn’t on the same page as you? Why bring in someone who doesn’t value loyalty, identity, or the face of your franchise? Why hand the keys to someone who doesn’t understand what this team means to this city?

 

Stearns set the Mets back years. And I blame Cohen for letting it happen.

 

Now I know and understand Alonso is gone, and people keep telling me to “move on.” But how do you move on when it’s clear as day that Stearns the former Brewers GM who Alonso ended with the kiss of death,gets hired here by Cohen? I don’t get it. I really don’t. My loyalty for the Mets will be from a distance, speaking my voice, and waiting for the day Cohen comes to his senses and finally fires this clown. As die‑hard 50‑plus‑year Met fan, how are the Die Hard Met fans you handling this?

its not LFGM anymore. Its FTGM!!!!!

[wiguy94]

I was following the Mets-Cubs game last night and that Mets roster is laughable for the amount of money they spent on it. Like I totally understand why Mets fans are pissed and want him gone.

[BrewerFan]

I feel like he needs to pick a lane. 

I'd say they should be dumping salary/contracts and adding all the prospects they can. Trading Sproat... I think that's going to look terrible in the long run... 

Will Cohen give him the time though? These half measures? Signing Devin Williams? If you're going to sign a closer, sign the best or don't spend. Give Champman money or... Diaz as they point out. But did one Brewers fan think that Williams signing would work?

 

If you're going to spend, realize you're goign to end up with bad contracts on the bad end and that's just part of it, and don't let the Mets Ryan Howard leave(I realize Howard led them to a WS so it's not the exact same, but I think it's close). 

 

Stearns just feels a little lost as a guy who came up as a small market GM playing with big dollars. 

To that point, I don't have a problem with signing Soto or Skubal after this year. Just if you spend, make it count, don't spend it on...Devin Williams. 

[ClosetBrewerFan]

6 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

I feel like he needs to pick a lane. 

I'd say they should be dumping salary/contracts and adding all the prospects they can. Trading Sproat... I think that's going to look terrible in the long run... 

Will Cohen give him the time though? These half measures? Signing Devin Williams? If you're going to sign a closer, sign the best or don't spend. Give Champman money or... Diaz as they point out. But did one Brewers fan think that Williams signing would work?

 

If you're going to spend, realize you're goign to end up with bad contracts on the bad end and that's just part of it, and don't let the Mets Ryan Howard leave(I realize Howard led them to a WS so it's not the exact same, but I think it's close). 

 

Stearns just feels a little lost as a guy who came up as a small market GM playing with big dollars. 

To that point, I don't have a problem with signing Soto or Skubal after this year. Just if you spend, make it count, don't spend it on...Devin Williams. 

Most of the moves he's made did not seem bad at the time.  Players just have not performed well or are injured.  Poor performance is the blame of the player or the coaching staff.  Dumping Stearns now would be a dumb decision.  I'd be focusing my anger on the coaching staff or just the players themselves.

[homer]

The Onion on Mets fans

Quote

“I mean, I’m not asking for the world here! I’ve been rooting for these bums since I was 4 years old, and I literally want one simple thing: for the Mets to just walk onto the field, hit 30 or 40 home runs every game, strike out all 27 opposing batters, play flawless defense, and never lose even one time—oh, and also win the World Series in four games with a combined score of 300-0. The fact that they can’t even be bothered to do that just shows they don’t give a **** about their fans.”

 

[Trail]

You have to feel bad for the guy. I hated to see him leave, but that was his dream job. I think most Brewer fans understood that and wished him well.  It’s definitely not working out and Milwaukee‘s recent success isn’t making things look any better. Having said that… Much of what we have today was done under his leadership.

[Playing Catch]

Sports media in the social media era has never been so damaging in big markets. Every headline preys on fear-based clicks.

If there were 100 million more Brewers fans riled up with social media and NY Post headlines, The Brewers would be a shambles. It's the businesses that stand up to the torches and pitchforks that can remain strong.

You don't hire "The Smartest GM in the Room," to run your organization unless you are going to give him multiple transaction windows through multiple seasons to get the roster where Cohen and yes, even Mets fans, where they want it.

If Cohen bends to the will of social media, the Mets will become a parody of themselves, constantly cycling through management to satisfy the horde and they will never get where they want to go.

It's tough, though. Particularly because I think a personal weakness of Stearns could be the PR-part. He was willing to trade Hader mid-season. He traded away a lot of Mets identity when trading Nimmo and letting the two big FAs walk. Those are either bold moves, or moves made with an ignorance about fans and what fans actually want.

But the story here isn't the Mets, Cohen or Stearns. The story is the Brewers. Stearns has the Brewers shine, and everyone in baseball is trying to catch that shine, and has been mesmerized by what's in the black box.

[adambr2]

I mean if this doesn’t prove that the Brewers organization and their success is more than one or two guys, it’s the scouts, the coaches, the assistants, the employees behind the scenes, everyone from the top down doing their job correctly, nothing will. That’s culture. That’s not a young genius with a magic wand who can turn anything he touches into gold, 

I think the fact that Stearns and Counsell were largely seen as spearheading our pre-2024 success and now are wanted out the door by many of the fans of the organizations that purged them from us, really speaks to that. 

The narrative for Stearns in New York was seen as a man who could do wonders with no money — now just imagine what he can do with money.

Obviously, it’s not that simple.

[Team Canada]

11 hours ago, TURBO said:

He handed Milwaukee better prospects than they ever had when he was their own GM.

You lost me there, buddy.

[homer]

Just now, Team Canada said:

You lost me there, buddy.

I think that's from the Mets fan post. But yeah...that was a head shaker.

[Thurston Fluff]

10 hours ago, TURBO said:

Here is an example of a post from a Mets fan on social media.  Yeah, they are not happy...

 

 

Mets Fans For Life  · 

Cesar Bee ·Sdtsonorepc4:1 yumfhseic0gu7tg455ia77ceM a7h714Ydt5l lrPg3im ·

 

I can’t stay quiet anymore. I’ve been paying attention from a distance, watching everything unfold, and at this point I have to speak my mind.

 

I’ve stayed quiet long enough, but after everything that’s happened, it’s time to speak up. What David Stearns did to this organization feels deliberate, and the worst part is that Cohen let it happen. This isn’t emotion. This is looking at the facts and calling it exactly what it is.

 

Real die‑hard Mets fans never cared about age or decline when it came to Pete Alonso. He was the face of the Mets. A loyal face. The guy who carried this franchise through everything. Even in a slump, he came through when it mattered. He was our identity, our heartbeat, our franchise. This man won Home Run Derbies for New York. He showed out in All‑Star Games. He brought home trophies, moments, and pride. He gave this city electricity. He gave us something to look forward to when the season felt dead. Alonso wasn’t just a player. He was the one constant, the one star who always showed up for New York. And to me, he was a bigger Met than Soto and Lindor combined. He meant more to this city than both of them.

 

And the wildest part is this. The GM whose season we ended because of Alonso’s home run off Devin Williams in Milwaukee came to New York and just let Alonso walk. No real offer. No fight. Nothing. Then he let Edwin Díaz walk too because he wouldn’t match a little bit more money. And for what? To bring in the same pitcher Alonso crushed in that moment. That doesn’t feel like a mistake. That feels intentional.

 

And let’s talk about the farm system. Stearns didn’t just make trades. He destroyed the future. He traded Drew Gilbert, Luisangel Acuña, Jett Williams, Blade Tidwell, Christian Scott. He emptied the entire pipeline. He handed Milwaukee better prospects than they ever had when he was their own GM. He gutted the core, gutted the depth, gutted the identity, and replaced it with Milwaukee players and Milwaukee philosophy. He didn’t build the Mets. He rebuilt the Brewers with our resources.

 

And here’s the part that makes it even worse. Look at the records this season. Milwaukee is one of the best teams in baseball. The Mets are one of the worst. The Brewers are thriving without Stearns. The Mets are collapsing with him. That tells you everything about who really built what.

 

The moment that really hit me happened when I saw that TikTok clip of Mets fans chanting “Pete Alonso” while Devin Williams was pitching. That’s when everything clicked. I wasn’t the only one feeling this way. The fans feel the disconnect. The fans feel the disrespect. The fans feel exactly what Stearns took away from us.

 

And I’ll be real. I’ve been a distant fan ever since he let Alonso go. It didn’t feel right. It didn’t sit right. Something was off from the moment that decision was made. They had such a powerful, magical team at that point, and Cohen hires a GM from the same franchise we eliminated?

 

Unreal.

 

Cohen is a lifelong Mets fan who bought this team in 2020 and finally gave us something to cheer about. So from a Mets fan perspective, why bring in a GM who wasn’t on the same page as you? Why bring in someone who doesn’t value loyalty, identity, or the face of your franchise? Why hand the keys to someone who doesn’t understand what this team means to this city?

 

Stearns set the Mets back years. And I blame Cohen for letting it happen.

 

Now I know and understand Alonso is gone, and people keep telling me to “move on.” But how do you move on when it’s clear as day that Stearns the former Brewers GM who Alonso ended with the kiss of death,gets hired here by Cohen? I don’t get it. I really don’t. My loyalty for the Mets will be from a distance, speaking my voice, and waiting for the day Cohen comes to his senses and finally fires this clown. As die‑hard 50‑plus‑year Met fan, how are the Die Hard Met fans you handling this?

its not LFGM anymore. Its FTGM!!!!!

He says this isn't emotion, it's based on facts and calling it like it is right after he said it feels like Stearns is deliberately doing this. The rest of the post was all about losing the emotional leader of the team and how they won home run derbies and other trophies that have nothing to do with actually winning games. Classic fan rant.

I think this is the classic example of how too much money makes one more careless. Overall I think the Mets fans are mad at the wrong person. It's the owner not those under him. He's where the culture starts. It takes more than just money to run a successful franchise.

[markedman5]

59 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I mean if this doesn’t prove that the Brewers organization and their success is more than one or two guys, it’s the scouts, the coaches, the assistants, the employees behind the scenes, everyone from the top down doing their job correctly, nothing will. That’s culture. That’s not a young genius with a magic wand who can turn anything he touches into gold, 

I think the fact that Stearns and Counsell were largely seen as spearheading our pre-2024 success and now are wanted out the door by many of the fans of the organizations that purged them from us, really speaks to that. 

The narrative for Stearns in New York was seen as a man who could do wonders with no money — now just imagine what he can do with money.

Obviously, it’s not that simple.

Yeah……and as much fans hate to admit it…….it all starts with an owner who knows what he’s doing…….especially in the smallest market in the majors.

[homer]

sometimes obstacles (e.g. financial limits) prevent you from doing dumb things and force you to think outside the box 

[adambr2]

11 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

Yeah……and as much fans hate to admit it…….it all starts with an owner who knows what he’s doing…….especially in the smallest market in the majors.

And it took him awhile, right ? When he first bought the team he was much more hands on. I think he wanted to make a mark and put the team back on the map. You saw a lot more aggression back in his early days, like trading for CC, Greinke, etc. Mark A was instrumental to signing Suppan, which was obviously a miss. 

But he learned from his mistakes and I think that’s one of the most important aspects of any businessman, I think. He’s learned that the best thing he can do is to hire a lot of smart people and let them do their job. 

And along the way, he did indeed put the Brewers back on the map. 

[Thurston Fluff]

35 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

And it took him awhile, right ? When he first bought the team he was much more hands on. I think he wanted to make a mark and put the team back on the map. You saw a lot more aggression back in his early days, like trading for CC, Greinke, etc. Mark A was instrumental to signing Suppan, which was obviously a miss. 

But he learned from his mistakes and I think that’s one of the most important aspects of any businessman, I think. He’s learned that the best thing he can do is to hire a lot of smart people and let them do their job. 

And along the way, he did indeed put the Brewers back on the map. 

I agree with you but I think the smartest thing he did was keep Melvin and most of the front office in place when he bought the team. He may have meddled too much in player acquisitions but he was smart enough to keep a core of people who knew the ropes in place until he knew enough to find his own people.

[adambr2]

7 minutes ago, Thurston Fluff said:

I agree with you but I think the smartest thing he did was keep Melvin and most of the front office in place when he bought the team. He may have meddled too much in player acquisitions but he was smart enough to keep a core of people who knew the ropes in place until he knew enough to find his own people.

This is true. But early on from around 2005-2012 or so, it was tough to know who was pulling the strings some of the time.

[markedman5]

50 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

And it took him awhile, right ? When he first bought the team he was much more hands on. I think he wanted to make a mark and put the team back on the map. You saw a lot more aggression back in his early days, like trading for CC, Greinke, etc. Mark A was instrumental to signing Suppan, which was obviously a miss. 

But he learned from his mistakes and I think that’s one of the most important aspects of any businessman, I think. He’s learned that the best thing he can do is to hire a lot of smart people and let them do their job. 

And along the way, he did indeed put the Brewers back on the map. 

Don’t forget Kyle Lohse…….he negotiated that deal himself as I recall.

That’s a great point..,,,,…..he was too hands on early……which is how many/most owners operate…….now he has the final say but obviously lets Arnold and his team drive the bus.

credit to Mark

[TURBO]

All of the comments by Brewers posters in this thread have merit, however, this is how the game works.

You get hired to do a job, if you fail, even if you had help failing, you take the flack.

I do think Stearns deserves a lot of what he's getting.  A lot of his decisions haven't worked, and another large market spoiled fan base is unhappy. 

BOOO fricking HOOOO!

Stearns didn't have to leave, he chose to, and it isn't working.  Just like GREG Counsell, he chose to leave, and it's not working.

I simply don't feel sorry for them.

In the end, we got better at both their jobs, which is all I really care about. 

The Brewers success is all that matters!!!

[markedman5]

56 minutes ago, TURBO said:

All of the comments by Brewers posters in this thread have merit, however, this is how the game works.

You get hired to do a job, if you fail, even if you had help failing, you take the flack.

I do think Stearns deserves a lot of what he's getting.  A lot of his decisions haven't worked, and another large market spoiled fan base is unhappy. 

BOOO fricking HOOOO!

Stearns didn't have to leave, he chose to, and it isn't working.  Just like GREG Counsell, he chose to leave, and it's not working.

I simply don't feel sorry for them.

In the end, we got better at both their jobs, which is all I really care about. 

The Brewers success is all that matters!!!

I don’t feel sorry for him but I’m not mad at him like CC.

He’s from NY…..grew up a Mets fan…….few would turn down that opportunity in his position.

With that being said……

We lost Jack Zduriencik…….tragically lost Bruce Seid……promoted Ray Montgomery…..lost him to the Angels…….promoted Todd Johnson

Now have number 1 system in baseball and probably the best system in Brewers history.

 

We lost Derek Johnson……people were worried and mad.

They promoted Hook and we got better.

We lost Stearns…….promoted Arnold and got better.

We lost CC…..promoted Murph and got better.

I mean talk about a well oiled machine…….it really is unbelievable.

[Stealofhome]

28 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

I don’t feel sorry for him but I’m not mad at him like CC.

He’s from NY…..grew up a Mets fan…….few would turn down that opportunity in his position.

With that being said……

We lost Jack Zduriencik…….tragically lost Bruce Seid……promoted Ray Montgomery…..lost him to the Angels…….promoted Todd Johnson

Now have number 1 system in baseball and probably the best system in Brewers history.

 

We lost Derek Johnson……people were worried and mad.

They promoted Hook and we got better.

We lost Stearns…….promoted Arnold and got better.

We lost CC…..promoted Murph and got better.

I mean talk about a well oiled machine…….it really is unbelievable.

Is there a good in depth article about their succession planning and business practice? We're reading turn the ship around at work and it feels like some similar concepts in the brewers org where they have decision making at the right level and building in a plan to replace yourself with your assistant or deputy 

[markedman5]

45 minutes ago, Stealofhome said:

Is there a good in depth article about their succession planning and business practice? We're reading turn the ship around at work and it feels like some similar concepts in the brewers org where they have decision making at the right level and building in a plan to replace yourself with your assistant or deputy 

I don’t know……haven’t read one.

All I know is they seem to make right decision after right decision…….and when it seems like one of their decisions might not be what they thought ( Weeks being manager in waiting) they pivot and course correct. 
 

 

 

[Team Canada]

11 hours ago, homer said:

I think that's from the Mets fan post. But yeah...that was a head shaker.

Oh for sure, that was a criticism directed at the fan that posted that.