2011-10-16 Cardinals (Jackson) at Brewers (Marcum) [Brewers lose, 12-6; lose NLCS 4 games to 2]

[markedman5]

Saito has been really good for a long time now......I hope we try to bring him back for another year.

[bucksman4]

Pitching folded and crumbled under pressure when the games really counted.

 

Remember Doug Melvin bragging that his complete 1-5 starting pitchers are returning next season? Yeah...that should be fun.

[jjkoestler]

Time for a crooked number. RALLY CAPS.

[hurricanecrush]

They'll get 2 this inning.

[Team Canada]

But you guys, any idiot knows the good pitchers have to come later in the game.

[MillerBombers]

Saito has been really good for a long time now......I hope we try to bring him back for another year.

I wouldn't mind bringing back the same bullpen outside of KRod. It was pretty good 7-8-9 before KRod.

[ttsather]

Down four, use Loe. Down 5, use Saito.

 

Huh?

I guess I can see why, if RR felt like he absolutely had to use Loe tonight (separate discussion) he wanted him in against all RHers and decided that was the best time to do it.

That is, of course, operating almost entirely in a vacuum. I would've made different choices.

[JET15]

Not going to vent - I understand BF.net's policy on that. I am just going to make an observation.

 

Anyone else wonder if Shawn Marcum was channeling Jeff Suppan from September until tonight? What happened to him? Seriously, if he was hurt or just got the dead arm why was he allowed to continue pitching all of these games? Just leaving that out there.

 

Still only 6th inning, there is a window but it's closing quickly. Come on guys, let's see a comeback. I don't want to feel the pain I felt 29 years ago again.

He just didn't have the same movement on his pitches that he did early in the season when he really was our best pitcher. I have no idea why. But when his pitches are flat, they're easy to hit at that velocity. I feel badly for the guy.

[razzzorsharp]

Pitching folded and crumbled under pressure when the games really counted.

 

Remember Doug Melvin bragging that his complete 1-5 starting pitchers are returning next season? Yeah...that should be fun.

It got them this far, I am ok with that. Maybe with better defense and timely hitting they might go further.

 

(and obviously better starting pitching)

[owbc]

Marcum's problem was lack of fastball location. The consequence was that the opposition started laying off the breaking pitches.

[markedman5]

a sure sign that hell has frozen over?

 

http://twitter.com/#!/BNightengale/status/125761095926427648

[Oldcity]

Darling just said they need to reach the point where one swing could get them back in it.

 

Ouch.

[Mr QL]

Its going to be hard to happy with this season with the way it ended. Just wanna forget about baseball for a couple months. Packers are great but its going to suck not having any Bucks basketball(altho I'm probably alone on this feeling)

[Glennron]

I want 1,000 IGT posts by the end of the 7th.

[fondybrewfan]

I guess I don't have a huge issue with how RR used the bullpen today. Narveson had looked pretty good recently and Loe was facing only righties. The Cardinals have simply not missed anything.

 

I wonder if Marcum is even back next year; I mean he is "That Guy" now. I am going to be so pissed if it comes out after the playoffs that he was hiding an injury

[Oldcity]

Screw you ump

[jason21nl]

once again, not a strike

[YutakaEnatsu]

For all the bagging on the starting pitching...

 

1. The margin at this moment is more runs than Marcum allowed; and

2. The Brewers' starters' ERA is better in the LCS than that of the Cards or Rangers.

 

They're not blameless, but the umps and hot offenses have as much to do with it as anything else.

[JET15]

I want 1,000 IGT posts by the end of the 7th.

All on your own? That's a lot of typing http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif

[fondybrewfan]

What makes this situation even worse is that Prince has given the Cards homefield advantage in the World Series. God I hope Texas just pounds them; don't think I will be able to watch though

[Oldcity]

Well that was an inning they couldn't afford.

[pebadger]

If the Cards hit that same ball that Yuni hit, it takes an extra hop and bounces over JHJ. Or the Brewers boot it.

[ReverendBrewmeister]

3 right-handed hitters against a LH reliever....and there is no offense produced. Just sad.

[ninja33]

Marcum's problem was lack of fastball location. The consequence was that the opposition started laying off the breaking pitches.

When he threw them, he still left his offspeed pitches up. I think that pitch Freese clobbered was a changeup at the belt. That's not going to work.

[dlk9s]

I guess I don't have a huge issue with how RR used the bullpen today. Narveson had looked pretty good recently and Loe was facing only righties. The Cardinals have simply not missed anything.

I agree. I mean, if RR doesn't use Loe when he did, he would probably need him later, anyway, if the team came back to tie or take the lead, since the other option was to start burning the best relievers. That was a good situation for him to come in, since there were a bunch of righties and Nick Punto coming up. Marcum and Narveson put RR in a very tough spot.