2022 MLB Draft Pick Discussion, Rounds 1-10

[Brewcrew82]

What's lost in the conversation here about how the Yankees, Red Sox, etc. always maintain top farm systems is the significant advantage they have historically held in signing international free agents. The Brewers have started to catch up recently with guys like Chourio, Perez, etc. but we simply don't have the same cache that those teams do. Why I was hoping that the international draft would pan out, though it doesn't seem like it will at the moment. 

[LouisEly]

Max Wagner off the board to Baltimore.  Big power, but has struggled with his ability to hit sliders (according to MLB.com scouting report).  MLB.com had him at #66.

[Platoon Power]

2 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

No one has said that Stearns hasn't made many great moves but the organization has failed big time in drafting position players. Obviously Chourio and others look promising but we have done an awful job developing position players.

The guy you hated from last year is looking really good with a .815 OPS in AA.  I wouldn't be shocked if he's up in Milwaukee sometime next year.  

[brewers888]

1 minute ago, sveumrules said:

Just because Tyrone Taylor & Keston Hiura aren’t currently starting doesn’t mean they haven’t been “starters” on this team at points & times. Arcia also started a lot of games (for better or worse) over the Stearns era, though he wasn’t technically drafted.

Only first round position players have put 2.0 WAR or since the 2016 draft, Hiura is at 1.3. Adjust expectations accordingly, or prepare to keep being disappointed.

Arcia and I'm pretty certain Taylor predate Stearns so he gets no credit for bringing them into the organization.

[Eye Black]

Just now, LouisEly said:

Max Wagner off the board to Baltimore.  Big power, but has struggled with his ability to hit sliders (according to MLB.com scouting report).  MLB.com had him at #66.

Will be rooting for him, was foolishly hoping he might make it to the Brewers next selection. 

[brewers888]

1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

What's lost in the conversation here about how the Yankees, Red Sox, etc. always maintain top farm systems is the significant advantage they have historically held in signing international free agents. The Brewers have started to catch up recently with guys like Chourio, Perez, etc. but we simply don't have the same cache that those teams do. Why I was hoping that the international draft would pan out, though it doesn't seem like it will at the moment. 

There are spending limits now with international players so we are pretty much on even footing other than the Asian and Cuban stars that go to the highest spenders.

[Brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, brewers888 said:

There are spending limits now with international players so we are pretty much on even footing other than the Asian and Cuban stars that go to the highest spenders.

Why I said "historically". And even with the spending limits they have recently instituted, the top guys still tend to go to the larger markets. 

[brewers888]

2 minutes ago, Platoon Power said:

The guy you hated from last year is looking really good with a .815 OPS in AA.  I wouldn't be shocked if he's up in Milwaukee sometime next year.  

Good I hope to be proven wrong with Frelick but as of today we don't have any everyday players drafted by this team.

[StearnsFTW]

Man, we've got some real experts here.  Hopefully Stearns is reading so he can replace his scouting director with some schlub from the internet.

[Joseph Zarr]

I’m excited to see this young man in action in the lower levels and write those reports. Who knows what we have yet?

With Freddy Zamora’s colossally disappointing season and then the injury to boot and with Ethan Murray and Antonio Pinero showing very little offensive production in 2022…and Eduardo Garcia enticing but young and undisciplined at the plate it’s quite easy to see why the Brewers would go this route. That leaves us with, really, unknown hopes for Jhonny Severino (years away in the DSL) and resurgent Cam Devanney (more a super utility infielder) as leading candidates outside of the obvious Brice Turang.

We draft middle infielders, yes, but that’s also because we need them in the system.

[brewers888]

3 minutes ago, StearnsFTW said:

Man, we've got some real experts here.  Hopefully Stearns is reading so he can replace his scouting director with some schlub from the internet.

Why have a message board at all if we are not allowed to have opinions.

[LouisEly]

5 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

Good I hope to be proven wrong with Frelick but as of today we don't have any everyday players drafted by this team.

And the people who are primarily responsible for that are gone from the organization.

[Brewcrew82]

Bottom line with the MLB draft is that we have very little idea how any of these guys will pan out, aside from the Top 5 guys. And even then, as we've seen with Ray, there's a tremendous amount of variance. It's probably best to just let things play out and trust a front office that's led us to 4 straight playoff appearances and first place at the all-star break this year. Not a "blind" trust, but a trust nevertheless. 

[brewers888]

3 minutes ago, Joseph Zarr said:

I’m excited to see this young man in action in the lower levels and write those reports. Who knows what we have yet?

With Freddy Zamora’s colossally disappointing season and then the injury to boot and with Ethan Murray and Antonio Pinero showing very little offensive production in 2022…and Eduardo Garcia enticing but young and undisciplined at the plate it’s quite easy to see why the Brewers would go this route. That leaves us with, really, unknown hopes for Jhonny Severino (years away in the DSL) and resurgent Cam Devanney (more a super utility infielder) as leading candidates outside of the obvious Brice Turang.

We draft middle infielders, yes, but that’s also because we need them in the system.

We need better offensive production not a middle infielder that needs a swing overhaul and is compared to Craig Counsell of all people. Sorry that does not sound like an impact talent and defintely not a guy we should be picking in round one.

[Spencer Michaelis]

7 minutes ago, trwi7 said:

He hit against the bad Power 5 competition he saw.  6-11 with a walk against West Virginia, Rutgers and Illinois.  5-12 with 6 walks against Clemson and Wake Forest.  1-14 with 5 walks against UNC and Virginia.

That feels *really* nitpicky. Rutgers was 44-15 and considered a pretty big snub from the CWS. Clemson wasn't great but pretty similar to UNC, West Virginia was pretty solid in a good conference. Wake Forest played in the NCAA regionals... Illinois was 17-7 in the Big Ten and 31-22 overall. This isn't like he was facing the Minnesota's, or Boston College's of the world. UNC was worse than most of the teams you called bad? Virginia was good, but nothing crazy. A few bad games and a chunk of good games with a lot of solid contact and even the UNC and Virginia games are a .300 OBP despite not getting the hits in that stretch of games.

[brewers888]

2 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Bottom line with the MLB draft is that we have very little idea how any of these guys will pan out, aside from the Top 5 guys. And even then, as we've seen with Ray, there's a tremendous amount of variance. It's probably best to just let things play out and trust a front office that's led us to 4 straight playoff appearances and first place at the all-star break this year. Not a "blind" trust, but a trust nevertheless. 

The organization has earned the trust with the drafting and developing of pitchers but not so much with position players so I will defer to the highlights I've seen as well as the mostly underwhelming scouting reports saying he needs a swing overhaul. 

[brewers888]

Hopefully this guy surprises and has as successful a career as his possible future manager who he is compared to as a player. 

[LouisEly]

1 minute ago, brewers888 said:

I will defer to the highlights I've seen as well as the mostly underwhelming scouting reports saying he needs a swing overhaul. 

Which other ones than ESPN say that he needs a swing overhaul?  MLB.com doesn't:

Brown has an unusual setup at the plate, holding his hands high and pointing his bat toward the mound before starting his load, but it doesn't prevent him from making consistent contact. Factor in his ability to stay at shortstop and his high baseball IQ, and he could match Mickey Brantley, Kirt Manwaring and Mike Costanzo as the highest-drafted position players in Coastal Carolina history (second round). He earned Cape Cod League all-star honors last summer while playing for Cotuit manager Mike Roberts, who said Brown reminded him of his son -- two-time All-Star Brian. 

An offensive catalyst, Brown has tremendous hand-eye coordination that allows him to barrel balls regularly even though there's a lot going on in his right-handed stroke. He has a quick bat and some sneaky pop that should translate into 15-20 homers per season, and he controls the strike zone well. He's an aggressive baserunner with a knack for stealing bases despite his average speed. 

[sveumrules]

3 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

We need better offensive production not a middle infielder that needs a swing overhaul and is compared to Craig Counsell of all people. Sorry that does not sound like an impact talent and defintely not a guy we should be picking in round one.

Craig Counsell posted 22 WAR over his career, won two World Series and an NLCS MVP.

Only four of the position players drafted 1st round in 1992 finished with more career WAR than Craig.

20 WAR (no matter the shape) from a 27th pick would be a pretty excellent outcome.

The two rings would be cool too.

[Brewcrew82]

7 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

The organization has earned the trust with the drafting and developing of pitchers but not so much with position players so I will defer to the highlights I've seen as well as the mostly underwhelming scouting reports saying he needs a swing overhaul. 

True, but I'm not sure it's worth getting all worked up over when nobody really has any clue how any of these guys drafted late in the first round will pan out. Were people unanimously hailing Mike Trout when he was drafted by the Angels? Not quite...After the top 5 or top 10, the MLB draft is largely a crapshoot. I'll wait to see how he performs in the minor leagues. 

[LouisEly]

Prielipp to the Twins.  I guess that's a lot better than to the Cubs or Cardinals.

[Joseph Zarr]

11 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

We need better offensive production not a middle infielder that needs a swing overhaul and is compared to Craig Counsell of all people. Sorry that does not sound like an impact talent and defintely not a guy we should be picking in round one.

I’m not here to argue it’s a right or wrong pick. You are entitled to that opinion. I am simply saying I am looking forward to seeing what we have here and I understand why he was picked.

[CheeseheadInQC]

18 minutes ago, Joseph Zarr said:

I’m excited to see this young man in action in the lower levels and write those reports. Who knows what we have yet?

With Freddy Zamora’s colossally disappointing season and then the injury to boot and with Ethan Murray and Antonio Pinero showing very little offensive production in 2022…and Eduardo Garcia enticing but young and undisciplined at the plate it’s quite easy to see why the Brewers would go this route. That leaves us with, really, unknown hopes for Jhonny Severino (years away in the DSL) and resurgent Cam Devanney (more a super utility infielder) as leading candidates outside of the obvious Brice Turang.

We draft middle infielders, yes, but that’s also because we need them in the system.

I might be pessimistic here, and I know he is young, but with him already playing a lot of third, I think I am one more multi-error game from moving Severino onto a first base prospect list.

[Joseph Zarr]

10 minutes ago, CheeseheadInQC said:

I might be pessimistic here, and I know he is young, but with him already playing a lot of third, I think I am one more multi-error game from moving Severino onto a first base prospect list.

It certainly might happen. I don’t think it’s overly pessimistic as much as it is a realistic observation. Lottttta errors when he’s in the space between 2nd and 3rd base.

[LouisEly]

Ugh... the Classies grab Brycen Mautz.  Got two LHPs that I had in my Brewers picks.