2022 MLB Draft Pick Discussion, Rounds 1-10

[Never Outhustled]

5 minutes ago, nate82 said:

A lot of the people complaining about a weak hitting shortstop with no power are also the ones complaining about the Brewers being an all or nothing type of an offense.  It is comical really.

So adding more nothing is the answer?

[narwhalattack]

3 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

“Brewers hitters strike out too much”

<Brewers draft hitter with 38/29 BB/K ratio, 330 AVG and 1000 OPS>

“This guy can’t hit.”

Depends on the kind of contact. I’d rather not see us drafting a guy who can technically make contact, but can’t exactly hit with authority (Brice Turang, for example).

[CheeseheadInQC]

I don't know that I would have gone that direction, but I will say I trust a guy who makes consistent contact and has good plate discipline to carry over the stats than a guy who put up video game stats with metal bats but with big holes in his swing.

Also, a guy the Brewers picked with basically the exact same stat line from a small conference last season sure is doing fine with the Timber Rattlers right now.

Regardless, I can understand the disappointment, but the vitriol seems a tad hyperbolic.

[sveumrules]

2 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

The Brewers current lineup doesn't have one everyday position player drafted by the team and that is a major failure over many drafts.

The current scouting director has been here for what, six drafts since Montgomery took Ray at #5?

How many teams do you think have drafted and developed multiple starting position players out of the last six drafts?

[brewers888]

I've seen comparisons to Craig Counsell and that this player needs a complete overhaul of his swing and we are supposed to be excited?

[NBBrewFan]

4 minutes ago, MVP2110 said:

Peralta was a Stearns move

My Bad, I swapped their dates (trade/hired).  Yes Peralta was acquired by Stearns (and so was jackie Bradley JR)

[sveumrules]

Just now, narwhalattack said:

Depends on the kind of contact. I’d rather not see us drafting a guy who can technically make contact, but can’t exactly hit with authority (Brice Turang, for example).

Guys that hit for power & contact with low K rates are typically long gone by #27.

At this point, everyone has flaw(s).

[Never Outhustled]

12 minutes ago, MVP2110 said:

Why do people say he's "light hitting"?

Dude had a slugging last year of. 544 and an OPS over 1.000

That's a totally not good at all in college, compared to other 1st rounders, plus he played low level competition 

[nate82]

1 minute ago, Never Outhustled said:

So adding more nothing is the answer?

Someone who is a high average low strikeout player is nothing?

I guess you are only happy when you are miserable.

[homer]

11 minutes ago, NBBrewFan said:

Then you think at some point the Brewers would get out of the bottom third of system rankings. 

that would probably mean picking in the top 10 for a few years in a row

[brewers888]

2 minutes ago, CheeseheadInQC said:

I don't know that I would have gone that direction, but I will say I trust a guy who makes consistent contact and has good plate discipline to carry over the stats than a guy who put up video game stats with metal bats but with big holes in his swing.

Also, a guy the Brewers picked with basically the exact same stat line from a small conference last season sure is doing fine with the Timber Rattlers right now.

Regardless, I can understand the disappointment, but the vitriol seems a tad hyperbolic.

He must have holes in his swing if the scouting report is correct that says he needs a swing overhaul.

[trwi7]

14 minutes ago, MVP2110 said:

Why do people say he's "light hitting"?

Dude had a slugging last year of. 544 and an OPS over 1.000

As long as we're aware that his OPS was 248th in the NCAA this year and his SLG% was 417th.

[Spencer Michaelis]

I'm just super confused by some of you. He didn't have good production? He had an OPS over 1.000... He hit against the Power 5 competition he saw. He has pop, hasn't shown up in game a ton, but it's there. Exit velo's up to 113, consistently over 95. 

 

People complain about Brewers whiffing and chasing, this guy never does, but puts barrels on balls too. He can stick at short defensively and be a top of the order threat.

[Never Outhustled]

2 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

The current scouting director has been here for what, six drafts since Montgomery took Ray at #5?

How many teams do you think have drafted and developed multiple starting position players out of the last six drafts?

Most teams have 1, we have none. Some teams have numerous. You really thought players have stopped making the big leagues? That's just us (hitters only, we have a great understanding of pitching).

[Eye Black]

6 minutes ago, ecjimg said:

Those of us who don’t like the pick aren’t basing our opinions on just stats.  We read what the so called experts have written. You can’t just dismiss their opinions because they HAVE seen these guys play.  

Which experts have said that Eric Brown is "light hitting"?

[narwhalattack]

2 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Guys that hit for power & contact with low K rates are typically long gone by #27.

At this point, everyone has flaw(s).

After spending quite a few draft capitals on one end of the spectrum, I want to see them take their chances on the other end. If nothing else, it’s some variety at least. 

[brewers888]

2 minutes ago, homer said:

that would probably mean picking in the top 10 for a few years in a row

How often have the Rays picked top 10 yet their system is always producing talent and there are other teams in similar situations.

[NBBrewFan]

1 minute ago, homer said:

that would probably mean picking in the top 10 for a few years in a row

Too bad the Dodgers, Giants, Red Sox, Yankees, and Cardinals didn't get the memo that you aren't supposed to have successful farm systems if your picking in the 20's so often.  I agree, for the Brewers to have improvement they need the crutch of picking near the top.  

[Never Outhustled]

3 minutes ago, nate82 said:

Someone who is a high average low strikeout player is nothing?

I guess you are only happy when you are miserable.

He's not high average. I'm happy when they make smart moves. I defended the Frelick selection just a year ago, so it looks like you should do more research and less accusations. 

[Oxy]

6 minutes ago, Never Outhustled said:

Compared to other college 1st round picks, that's actually straight up terrible. Then you should realize that he's playing in a terrible conference. 

No, it's not.  You can really only compare him to other middle IFers Brooks Lee, Jace Jung, and Zach Neto.  Neto was better, Lee and Jung and Brown had very similar production. Jung won't be a middle infielder either as a pro.  Also, Brown's whiff rate/chase rate and K/BB numbers are elite.

[MVP2110]

I'm reading through a few different scouting reports and haven't seen anyone say he needs a complete overhaul or that he's a "light hitting" SS. Can someone post these evaluations?

[LouisEly]

6 minutes ago, Never Outhustled said:

That's a totally not good at all in college, compared to other 1st rounders, plus he played low level competition 

How does it compare to other college shortstops who are good enough defensively to stick at SS?

[brewers888]

1 minute ago, NBBrewFan said:

Too bad the Dodgers, Giants, Red Sox, Yankees, and Cardinals didn't get the memo that you aren't supposed to have successful farm systems if your picking in the 20's so often.  I agree, for the Brewers to have improvement they need the crutch of picking near the top.  

All those teams you mentioned as well as Tampa never pick at the top yet keep producing.

[Eye Black]

Guardians draft Justin Campbell, that's a good landing spot for him. 

[brewers888]

Brown is unique in being a first-round talent who needs a complete swing overhaul in pro ball. He does something with his hands that reminds me of a Samurai, but has hit everywhere and has deceptively good in-game power, in addition to fitting at one or both middle-infield positions. Clubs with good hitting development are lining up around this point of the draft.