Game Thread (8/19/2022): Brewers (Ashby) at Cubs (Thompson) - 1:20 PM CDT

[willie key]

1 minute ago, Jopal78 said:

 

23-18 is .560 baseball. I don't know what more anyone can realistically expect? Maybe you think they should be pounding those teams at a .750 clip?

Hmmmm.     What?

[Jopal78]

1 minute ago, willie key said:

Hmmmm.     What?

Math homey. 23 wins in 41 games is .560. 

Put another way, you think they should be beating the bottom three teams in their division at a higher rate? 

[Brock Beauchamp]

3 minutes ago, Nola Beery said:

Hahah.  I looked.  Also too bad about that wasp getting to Brock Beauchamp!

Thanks for the consideration. Today my wrist itches like I was bitten by 100 mosquitos. 

[BruisedCrew]

19 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Blame the Scrubs. They sure do love grasping to tradition. 

I think part of that is related to an agreement the Cubs made as a condition to putting lights in at Wrigley Field. There was some pushback from the city because of disruptions to the neighborhood created by night games. So, the number of night games is limited.

[Brock Beauchamp]

Ashby’s stat line sure is weird.

[Simba2020]

2 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Math homey. 23 wins in 41 games is .560. 

So we are supposed to be happy that teams that have collectively won less than 39% of their games have "only" won 44% against the Brewers? Math baby.

[YelichPosse]

4 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Ashby’s stat line sure is weird.

And I would say 6 of the hits were paper cuts / infield variety/ wind assisted.

[BruisedCrew]

11 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Math homey. 23 wins in 41 games is .560. 

Put another way, you think they should be beating the bottom three teams in their division at a higher rate? 

Yes. Contending teams will do that routinely. 
 

A .560 winning percentage for the whole season gets you to 90 wins, which is about what it usually takes to make the playoffs. The usual way to get to those 90 wins is to play .500 or maybe a little better against the good teams and pile up wins against the bad ones. 
 

If you look at the numbers I posted above the other NL playoff contenders are all winning at a much higher rate against these weak teams. The Brewers did it last year, going a combined 29-9 against the Cubs and Pirates. Those 38 games right there accounted for 20 of the 28 games they finished over .500. In their other 124 games they were 66-58 (.532).

[owbc]

Yelich is the best in baseball at producing an RBI groundout with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs. 

[Jopal78]

5 minutes ago, Simba2020 said:

So we are supposed to be happy that teams that have collectively won less than 39% of their games have "only" won 44% against the Brewers? Math baby.

Again, I don't know what you expect. In 2018 the year the Brewers won 96 games they went 20-18 against the Pirates and Reds. 

If you think they should beat a weak division opponents 60% of the time or better, good on you. It just doesn't happen often. 

[Nola Beery]

Looks like the Cubs are giving us a refund for the dodgy D and cheap hits.

 

[YelichPosse]

Hope Urias is ok with that hand... something to keep an eye on.
That 1st base bag at Wrigley is not the Brewer's friend.

[Brewcrew82]

Rowdy might be the most unlucky hitter with his barrels that I've ever seen. 

[willie key]

14 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Math homey. 23 wins in 41 games is .560. 

Put another way, you think they should be beating the bottom three teams in their division at a higher rate? 

Yes.     I don’t even have to put it another way

[Nola Beery]

I'd bet 2 whole dollars that 7 runs will not win this game.

 

[willie key]

7 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Again, I don't know what you expect. In 2018 the year the Brewers won 96 games they went 20-18 against the Pirates and Reds. 

If you think they should beat a weak division opponents 60% of the time or better, good on you. It just doesn't happen often. 

And in 2011 they went 34-12 against that crappy teams in their division.   And so on and so on.    That isn’t even counting the year we made the playoffs for the first time in a million years

 

they y went 14-1 versus the pirates.   
 

Crushing bad teams puts you in the playoffs.     

[willie key]

I’m tired of our pitchers.   I just am.    Hold a damn lead every once in awhile

[Nola Beery]

4 minutes ago, Nola Beery said:

I'd bet 2 whole dollars that 7 runs will not win this game.

 

And REALLY HOPE 8 runs won't win it either, bughghghghgh!

 

[Simba2020]

10 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Again, I don't know what you expect. In 2018 the year the Brewers won 96 games they went 20-18 against the Pirates and Reds. 

If you think they should beat a weak division opponents 60% of the time or better, good on you. It just doesn't happen often. 

The Reds were bad and we dominated them. The Pirates had a winning record so they shouldn't be part of the conversation. The Brewers went 28-11 against the 4 worst teams in the NL. So once again, it does happen. Quite regularly.

[Outlander]

Hoby has been absolutely brutal over the last couple of weeks.

[Simba2020]

1 minute ago, Outlander said:

Hoby has been absolutely brutal over the last couple of weeks.

Too bad CC hasn't noticed.

[BruisedCrew]

18 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Again, I don't know what you expect. In 2018 the year the Brewers won 96 games they went 20-18 against the Pirates and Reds. 

If you think they should beat a weak division opponents 60% of the time or better, good on you. It just doesn't happen often. 

2018 is not a good example. That year the Brewers were 13-6 against the last place Reds and 7-12 (including an obligatory disaster in Pittsburgh) against the Pirates, who finished over .500 for the season and don’t really compare to the tanking teams of 2022. 
 

Against the other last place teams in the NL that year (the Padres and Marlins) the Brewers were a combined 9-4, so their record against the 3 last place teams was 22-10 (.688). 
 

The Brewers were given a gift this year being in a division with 3 of the 4 weakest teams in the NL. They haven’t taken advantage of that gift, and it’s only the high number of games against those weak teams that has kept them in the watered down playoff race. 

[BruisedCrew]

18 minutes ago, Nola Beery said:

I'd bet 2 whole dollars that 7 runs will not win this game.

 

But 8 might. 

Though the dregs of the Brewers bullpen isn’t likely to keep the Cubs there. 

[yfinn6]

That was strike 3 on Contreras because strike 2 wasn't called. 

[Jopal78]

3 minutes ago, Outlander said:

Hoby has been absolutely brutal over the last couple of weeks.

Or maybe the true colors are shining through. There's a reason he's 31 with his 4th organization and has 2 plus years of service time.