Counsell: Win the Central or Be Fired

[Ojoe33]

The home state favorite and winningest coach in Brewers history is headed for an exit if they don't win the NL Central.  Every year Counsell has managed the Brewers, there has been a 'slump.'  It usually happens mid-season where the Brewers go on a losing streak.  This year, August has been the downfall and out of first place.  I hear it all the time, "the season is not a race, it's a marathon"; but if your team keeps pulling a hamstring in this marathon, you aren't going to win the World Series.  This is unacceptable.  For eight years, Counsell has managed some good players and has had success in getting to the playoffs, but the losing streaks and inconsistent managing year after year is what makes him a mediocre manager.  Counsell,  win the central or say goodbye.  

[Brewcrew82]

1 hour ago, Ojoe33 said:

The home state favorite and winningest coach in Brewers history is headed for an exit if they don't win the NL Central.  Every year Counsell has managed the Brewers, there has been a 'slump.'  It usually happens mid-season where the Brewers go on a losing streak.  This year, August has been the downfall and out of first place.  I hear it all the time, "the season is not a race, it's a marathon"; but if your team keeps pulling a hamstring in this marathon, you aren't going to win the World Series.  This is unacceptable.  For eight years, Counsell has managed some good players and has had success in getting to the playoffs, but the losing streaks and inconsistent managing year after year is what makes him a mediocre manager.  Counsell,  win the central or say goodbye.  

There's terrible first posts and then there's this...

[wibadgers23]

No. Just no.

[CheeseheadInQC]

He would be out of a job for about half an hour, It would only be that long because multiple offers would come in during that span.

[Team Canada]

At least you're setting the bar low for yourself.

[StearnsFTW]

Jesus.  

This board has been something else since the Hader trade. 

[NBBrewFan]

I'm just guessing that every World Series winner has had a losing streak the year they won plus the year before, and the year before that, and the year after and the year after that.  Basically all teams go through difficult stretches in a 162-game-marathon.  I'm guessing based on the analogy and usage that the OP never ran a marathon, or maybe even got off the couch.

[Brewcrew82]

1 hour ago, StearnsFTW said:

Jesus.  

This board has been something else since the Hader trade. 

Which is beyond fascinating since Hader has been so atrocious for the Padres....

[areacodes]

3 hours ago, Ojoe33 said:

The home state favorite and winningest coach in Brewers history is headed for an exit if they don't win the NL Central.  Every year Counsell has managed the Brewers, there has been a 'slump.'  It usually happens mid-season where the Brewers go on a losing streak.  This year, August has been the downfall and out of first place.  I hear it all the time, "the season is not a race, it's a marathon"; but if your team keeps pulling a hamstring in this marathon, you aren't going to win the World Series.  This is unacceptable.  For eight years, Counsell has managed some good players and has had success in getting to the playoffs, but the losing streaks and inconsistent managing year after year is what makes him a mediocre manager.  Counsell,  win the central or say goodbye.  

Tell us you weren’t a fan of the Brewers in the 90’s/early 00’s without telling us you weren’t a fan of those teams.

Seriously though, Counsell has earned far more leash than a season where we don’t win the division or even if we wouldn’t make the playoffs - he’s not getting fired this year unless there is some type of scandal.

[LouisEly]

Willing to bet a large sum of money that the OP does not have a "Yosted!" t-shirt.

Speaking of that, @Brock Beauchampshouldn't "Yosted!" be one of the reactions that we have available?

[wallus]

[jjgott]

Only way I'm ok with firing CC is if he's replaced with Lou Palsmo

[Ulice Payne]

Welcome to the board, @Ojoe33.  Rough first post, but we're still glad to have you around

[rickh150]

Four straight playoffs, going on five…. He has 2023 and 2024 here, for sure, if he wants it, I have to think.

[Robocaller]

I mean, if they win 25% of the rest of their games, or there's fights, drug use, or orgies in the locker room, sure.

 

[Jim French Stepstool]

7 hours ago, areacodes said:

 he’s not getting fired this year unless there is some type of scandal.

And even then. I mean, he's already survived the blatant attempt to sabotage the team by not playing Keston Hiura enough.

                                                            (BLUE)?

[SomewhereInTime]

Is this a qualifier for the whoa solvvd forum?  Haven't had one in a while.

[UpandIn]

14 hours ago, Ojoe33 said:

The home state favorite and winningest coach in Brewers history is headed for an exit if they don't win the NL Central.  Every year Counsell has managed the Brewers, there has been a 'slump.'  It usually happens mid-season where the Brewers go on a losing streak.  This year, August has been the downfall and out of first place.  I hear it all the time, "the season is not a race, it's a marathon"; but if your team keeps pulling a hamstring in this marathon, you aren't going to win the World Series.  This is unacceptable.  For eight years, Counsell has managed some good players and has had success in getting to the playoffs, but the losing streaks and inconsistent managing year after year is what makes him a mediocre manager.  Counsell,  win the central or say goodbye.  

I think you're on to something here!

These's this Greek kid who plays Basketball for the Milwaukee Bucks...

People talk like this kid is something special because he wins ONE title(and a few MVPs years ago that he's still hanging his hat on!)

LOL...Counsell is Bobby Cox in ATL, he's Sparky in Det, he's Tommy in Dodger Blue. He's the manager here until he doesn't want to be anymore. He's one of the best in the game(it's a joke he hasn't won Manager of the Year award yet). 

I'd suggest a replacement for Counsell, but...that'd require entertaining this and...just, nah. 

[BruisedCrew]

The only way I see Counsell not being the Brewers manager next season is if he decides that after 9 years he wants to take a break from the daily grind to have more time following his sons in their evolving baseball careers and being with the rest of his family. 
 

He’s young enough that he could take some time off and have no trouble getting another manager job in a few years. 

[Random Guest]

15 hours ago, CheeseheadInQC said:

He would be out of a job for about half an hour, It would only be that long because multiple offers would come in during that span.

That's what they said about Mike Shildt in STL.  He hasn't been offered anything anywhere as far as a manager's job...and he had pretty good success in STL.  So, you can't predict that about Counsell.

[yourout]

Unless he is sleeping with Mark A's wife he isn't going anywhere.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

IMO, Counsell would pretty much have to turn into Ken Macha for the Brewers to consider making a change. And even then, it would probably take 2-3 seasons of mediocre or below results to do it. I'm as disappointed as anyone by Counsell's perceived degradation into a "cookie-cutter" type manager, but I'm starting to wonder if some of these boring type moves are more predicated by a lack of raw material on the MLB roster than Counsell losing his creativity.

[torts]

The Yuni Betancourt of posts

[CheeseheadInQC]

2 hours ago, Random Guest said:

That's what they said about Mike Shildt in STL.  He hasn't been offered anything anywhere as far as a manager's job...and he had pretty good success in STL.  So, you can't predict that about Counsell.

He wouldn’t bring the baggage of why Schildt got fired, though.

[Hopper]

I agree with most that he is 100% safe, however, his star is fading in my eyes.

Too many stupid moves and non-moves this year, which actually has been going on for a while, not just this year.

Will he be fired after this year, nope, is he the God some are claiming, nope.