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Fabian Ardaya of The Athletic reported that Devin Williams is one of the relief arms the Dodgers are interested in for 2025.

Williams is likely to be traded this offseason. He and his famed Airbender have been one of the best relievers in baseball for several years and with only one year of team control remaining, the Brewers have to consider what role he will play in the long-term health of the franchise.

The Dodgers certainly have the horses to accomplish this trade. According to MLB Pipeline, they have the fifth-best farm system in baseball. Williams will command a significant return not only due to his on-field performance but because he'll likely garner a Qualifying Offer after the 2025 season, bringing in an additional draft pick for 2026.

While Williams' return in trade should be notable, do not expect a return similar to Corbin Burnes when the Brewers traded him last year. The Brewers received Joey Ortiz and DL Hall in return; any return for Williams should be lower than that should the Brewers decide to trade him.


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Brock, if you consider Ortiz and Hall sufficient trade capital for Burnes, I do not think I could endorse your candidacy for GM anytime soon.  😉

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44 minutes ago, Profbratsch said:

Brock, if you consider Ortiz and Hall sufficient trade capital for Burnes, I do not think I could endorse your candidacy for GM anytime soon.  😉

Hall is still a question mark but Ortiz will likely make the trade worth it by himself 

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1 hour ago, wallus said:

Hall is still a question mark but Ortiz will likely make the trade worth it by himself 

Yeah, Ortiz should pass Burnes in on-field value provided sometime this year with team control running through 2029…

Ortiz 2024
2.7 bWAR | 3.1 fWAR

Burnes 2024
3.4 bWAR | 3.7 fWAR | 4.4 rWAR

Anything Hall turns in is essentially gravy at this point

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5 hours ago, Profbratsch said:

Brock, if you consider Ortiz and Hall sufficient trade capital for Burnes, I do not think I could endorse your candidacy for GM anytime soon.  😉

I think you are obviously placing way too much value on one year of Corbin Burnes. 

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27 minutes ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

I think you are obviously placing way too much value on one year of Corbin Burnes. 

You are probably right, but the Orioles have the option of extending him. They are still in the mix, at least according to mlb.com.

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25 minutes ago, harrydalton said:

Remember the 2025 MLB draft pick.  Could be around 33.

The Brewers getting pick 34 in the 2024 draft covered for that.

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Any Dodgers trade for Williams starts with Alex Freeland. Him and an arm that is squeezed out of their rotation. Don't think Freeland and Miller possible, but I would push for Freeland and Sheehan. Willing to settle for less than that on the arm side. 

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4 hours ago, Profbratsch said:

You are probably right, but the Orioles have the option of extending him. They are still in the mix, at least according to mlb.com.

The Brewers have as much of an option of "extending" Burnes as the O's do.

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3 hours ago, Redd Vencher said:

Any Dodgers trade for Williams starts with Alex Freeland. Him and an arm that is squeezed out of their rotation. Don't think Freeland and Miller possible, but I would push for Freeland and Sheehan. Willing to settle for less than that on the arm side. 

I would agree for the most part however the Dodgers have some amazing teenage talent that would look great with our young guys. If we could get 1 of De Paula, Vargas, Morales, Quintero, Hope, Ko and maybe 1 of the younger starters with issues (most are hurt) Miller/Ryan/Shehan/Frasso/Hurt/Wrobleski/Hurt I could see that being a potentially really good package. Arnold could maybe even get a 3rd sweetener piece. I would definitely ask for Freeland 1st and then look at what other talent we can scrap away from them. I do think the Dodgers would be the perfect team to overpay for Devin.

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Am I missing something with Freeland?  Don't the Brewers have enough infielders, and aren't we concerned about numbers at Tulsa and Oklahoma City being a little inflated in those leagues?  Or do I have the wrong Alex Freeland?

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59 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

I would agree for the most part however the Dodgers have some amazing teenage talent that would look great with our young guys. If we could get 1 of De Paula, Vargas, Morales, Quintero, Hope, Ko and maybe 1 of the younger starters with issues (most are hurt) Miller/Ryan/Shehan/Frasso/Hurt/Wrobleski/Hurt I could see that being a potentially really good package. Arnold could maybe even get a 3rd sweetener piece. I would definitely ask for Freeland 1st and then look at what other talent we can scrap away from them. I do think the Dodgers would be the perfect team to overpay for Devin.

The Dodgers are in tax trouble which is why we could accept guys like Gonsolin and Lux maybe mostly for free.   So let’s say Freeland/Gonsolin/Lux for Williams .   Or Miller/Gonsolin/Lux for Williams.   Or finally Sheehan/Gonsolin/Lux for Williams.

one of the three should be accepted.

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22 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

The Dodgers are in tax trouble which is why we could accept guys like Gonsolin and Lux maybe mostly for free.   So let’s say Freeland/Gonsolin/Lux for Williams .   Or Miller/Gonsolin/Lux for Williams.   Or finally Sheehan/Gonsolin/Lux for Williams.

one of the three should be accepted.

No.

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28 minutes ago, Matt said:

No.

Lackluster response from a poster that rarely dares to offer ideas.   You are turning down Bobby Miller, Tony Gonselin, and Gavin Lux for a year of Devin are you?   Please expand on your reasoning and what you expect to get for Devin my shrewd brewer fan compadre!  

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1 hour ago, Scooterfletcher said:

The Dodgers are in tax trouble which is why we could accept guys like Gonsolin and Lux maybe mostly for free.   So let’s say Freeland/Gonsolin/Lux for Williams .   Or Miller/Gonsolin/Lux for Williams.   Or finally Sheehan/Gonsolin/Lux for Williams.

one of the three should be accepted.

Why would the Brewers want Lux? He is a very weak defensive 2B and a lefty hitter who hit .251/.703 OPS. Where would they play him? From what I'm seeing on the Dodger sites, it sure looks like they are not moving Freeland (their #2 prospect). Sheehan has regressed a little and might not be ready until late July or August and then on limited innings. Miller was beyond awful in the majors and not that good in AAA in 2023 or 2024. I'd take him if he was packaged with Gonsolin and something else besides Lux. Sheehan/Gonsolin + would be the second choice. 

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Nobody seems to understand Lux is a free throw in with their luxury issues.   He is nothing to them but an affordable utility IF for us.   Not a part of the deal other than a salary that fills the Montasario role better.   Geeze H!

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6 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Nobody seems to understand Lux is a free throw in with their luxury issues.   He is nothing to them but an affordable utility IF for us.   Not a part of the deal other than a salary that fills the Montasario role better.   Geeze H!

Lux isn’t expensive, neither is Gonsolin, and Sheehan didn’t regress, he tore his UCL and had TJ and won’t be back until late in ‘25.

No way the Dodgers give up Gonsolin & Sheehan in the same deal. 

Maybe we can get Gonsolin since he only has 2 control years left and should be ready to pitch in ST, although will probably have an innings limit coming off TJ.

Sheehan, would be a tougher get, imo, even though he will miss most of ‘25, but will still have 4 years of control starting in ‘26, and at full strength is a potential TOR starter.

The Dodgers won’t just give away these pitchers and are a tough team to trade with, with 14 GM’s and the largest army of analysts in all of baseball.

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8 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Nobody seems to understand Lux is a free throw in with their luxury issues.   He is nothing to them but an affordable utility IF for us.   Not a part of the deal other than a salary that fills the Montasario role better.   Geeze H!

If he can play some 3rd along with 2B it has some value.  But I don’t think I’ve seen him play anything but 2B competently.

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On 12/10/2024 at 10:47 PM, Scooterfletcher said:

Lackluster response from a poster that rarely dares to offer ideas.   You are turning down Bobby Miller, Tony Gonselin, and Gavin Lux for a year of Devin are you?   Please expand on your reasoning and what you expect to get for Devin my shrewd brewer fan compadre!  

There's no way the Dodgers would offer that much for Williams anyway. My reasoning, is they're not stupid. 2 starters and Lux? For a reliever? 

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34 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

Is there actually any noise about Lux, or does this site keep bringing him up because he is from Wisconsin? 

It's one poster that is doing it

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