2025 Roster/Trade Ideas

[umphrey]

I have been hoping our pitching gets healthy enough where we can trade some guys like maybe Ashby or Hall or Civale. I'm not sure how much value we could get there but it could help if it's a sellers market (which is usually the case for mid-season pitching). I also wouldn't mind trading Misiorowski if the return is good because he hasn't shown progress on the control issues. 

[jay87shot]

Here are some AAA players that could be easier to acquire.

Otto Kemp (Phillies) 25 years old, 24th prospect.

.275/.372/.600 6 hr this year, hit .285/.392/.489 last year between 4 levels 16 HR 20 SB. 

Jorbit Vivas (Yanks) 24 years old, #20 prospect. 342/.432/.493, not great last year. More of a 2B bit has some 3B experience.

Brett Harris (Oakland) 26 years old .373/.459/.628, solid minor batting stats but wasn't good last year in 100+ abs for the big league team.

I will bring Justin Foscue up from Texas as well but I really don't think he can defensively play 3B for a prolonged time.

Logan Davidson (Oakland), Abraham Toro (Red Sox), David Villar (San Fran) these guys are all 28 and likely only short term options.

 

[jay87shot]

Eugenia Suaraz could be an option as well as Jordan Lawlar is bang on the door there. A guy hitting .156 isn't really that attractive but we know he can go on heaters quickly. Money could be an issue.

Maybe a guy like Jose Tena from the Nationals could make sense when the bring up Brady House.

[jay87shot]

I will add in Curtis Mead and some Blue Jays youth of Addison Barger, Will Wagner, and Orelvis Martinez as guys who aren't off to great starts but could be an option maybe for someone like Blake Perkins when he gets healthy.

[wiguy94]

45 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

We have a roster crunch coming with Myers and Woody getting close along side Yoho needing a spot.

Trade Payamps for a ptbnl, maybe something like if he makes over 20 appearances it is player a (lotto style prospect) if under it is player b (non prospect).

I like Ramon Urias a lot as a trade option. I would try and do like Tyler Alexander and Oliver Dunn/Elvis Peguero The CarRod package would be more interesting to the O's but I am still counting on him for next year. Alexander gives them quality innings and Dunn/Peguero gives them some youth/control value. It would open up roster space for some of our guys as well.

Edmunds Sosa would be a better option than Bohm at this point. He probably has a similar value to Urias but the Phillies would be less likely to trade him.

The Orioles aren't going to trade Ramon Urias for slop...like come on man. That's not even remotely realistic.

[wallus]

This probably falls under the not gonna happen tree because of same division but maybe.

Brewers trade: Garrett Mitchell, One of Wilken/Adams and One lotto ticket

Pirates trade: Oneil Cruz

The Pirates are playing Cruz in CF and he is terrible there. Mitchell would immediately be their CF of the future. Despite having worse offensive stats, Mitchell has more WAR because of defense. I would play Cruz at 3rd where I feel like he could be pretty decent. His power would help the lineup.

From a bigger picture perspective, I really like the Brewers pitching and the top of their lineup. The bottom of the lineup has too many holes at the moment. I am willing to give Ortiz the entire season to figure it out. I am not willing to give Durbin the full time 3B job. I prefer him as a guy that plays all over and can create havoc at the end of games in a PH role.

Since the budget might be getting tapped out, we need to use our prospects to help out the team now. 

[ghostdrew]

8 minutes ago, wallus said:

This probably falls under the not gonna happen tree because of same division but maybe.

Brewers trade: Garrett Mitchell, One of Wilken/Adams and One lotto ticket

Pirates trade: Oneil Cruz

The Pirates are playing Cruz in CF and he is terrible there. Mitchell would immediately be their CF of the future. Despite having worse offensive stats, Mitchell has more WAR because of defense. I would play Cruz at 3rd where I feel like he could be pretty decent. His power would help the lineup.

From a bigger picture perspective, I really like the Brewers pitching and the top of their lineup. The bottom of the lineup has too many holes at the moment. I am willing to give Ortiz the entire season to figure it out. I am not willing to give Durbin the full time 3B job. I prefer him as a guy that plays all over and can create havoc at the end of games in a PH role.

Since the budget might be getting tapped out, we need to use our prospects to help out the team now. 

There is no way on earth the pirates would go for this if we called them the would hang up so fast

[jay87shot]

3 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

The Orioles aren't going to trade Ramon Urias for slop...like come on man. That's not even remotely realistic.

Yeah, you are probably right. I really wouldn't want to trade CarRod for Urias though. Urias is an upgrade but really a .250 max hitter with not much power or speed.  Maybe someone like Nestor or Civale would have more value later in the year to a team like the O's and with our young pitching Priester, Patrick, Henderson looking good they (Civale/Cortes) will be expendable.

I still wouldn't mind going big for Coby Mayo. However I am sure the O's will use him to get a bigger name starter like Alcantara if Mayo is available.

[jay87shot]

15 minutes ago, wallus said:

This probably falls under the not gonna happen tree because of same division but maybe.

Brewers trade: Garrett Mitchell, One of Wilken/Adams and One lotto ticket

Pirates trade: Oneil Cruz

The Pirates are playing Cruz in CF and he is terrible there. Mitchell would immediately be their CF of the future. Despite having worse offensive stats, Mitchell has more WAR because of defense. I would play Cruz at 3rd where I feel like he could be pretty decent. His power would help the lineup.

From a bigger picture perspective, I really like the Brewers pitching and the top of their lineup. The bottom of the lineup has too many holes at the moment. I am willing to give Ortiz the entire season to figure it out. I am not willing to give Durbin the full time 3B job. I prefer him as a guy that plays all over and can create havoc at the end of games in a PH role.

Since the budget might be getting tapped out, we need to use our prospects to help out the team now. 

The idea is interesting but the Pirates aren't going to trade there only decent young bat. 

If interdivision was an option Jordan Walker or Nolan Gorman would be better position change options for 3B and value. Nolan Arrenado around the deadline is probably the same boat (beside money issues), not going to happen.

 

[jay87shot]

Oswaldo Cabrera could be an interesting idea for an addition. DJ Lemahieu is almost back and could cut into his playing time. They could use some starting pitching that could be available from us after Myers and Woody are back.

[wallus]

30 minutes ago, ghostdrew said:

There is no way on earth the pirates would go for this if we called them the would hang up so fast

Playing Cruz out of position is not doing them any good. Despite a .839 OPS, he has negative WAR. Mitchell hasn't been great with the bat but he has a better WAR.

Mitchell also has a better career OPS. Defense matters.

[nate82]

14 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

Nolan Arrenado around the deadline is probably the same boat (beside money issues), not going to happen

Arenado would veto a trade to the Brewers.  There are only a few teams he said he wouldn’t veto a trade to.

[Lloyd330]

O'Neil Cruz is a top 50 bat in the MLB - The cost starts with Frelick and Pratt

[jay87shot]

What about a deal with the Dodgers? They could use OF help and Alex Freeland looks good and blocked. Mitchell for Freeland? Frelick for Freeland and Pagas/Bobby Miller? Perkins and Boeve for Freeland?

Ortiz can go back to 3B and Pratt or Freeland could transition to 3B when Pratt is ready.

[Madhawk23]

On 4/22/2025 at 7:13 PM, jay87shot said:

What about a deal with the Dodgers? They could use OF help and Alex Freeland looks good and blocked. Mitchell for Freeland? Frelick for Freeland and Pagas/Bobby Miller? Perkins and Boeve for Freeland?

Ortiz can go back to 3B and Pratt or Freeland could transition to 3B when Pratt is ready.

I'd love to swing a trade for Freeland, but I don't see any way that the Dodgers are doing a deal for Mitchell straight up.  Mitchell is currently showing nothing at the plate so far this year and has a track record of injuries....so not sure what value he really even brings to a trade package at the moment?  And I think you're overvaluing Frelick a bit too in thinking the Dodgers would give us Freeland AND either Pages/Miller.  I'm actually not sure if the Dodgers would even do a Frelick/Freeland swap straight up?  

[duewizard]

Maton for cash? I mean he can't be worse than Capra

[jay87shot]

17 hours ago, duewizard said:

Maton for cash? I mean he can't be worse than Capra

Is this Nick Maton? I would rather just give Mone another shot over Maton, I just saw Owen Miller called up to the Rockies, he would be a guy that could be a cheap upgrade that I could get behind for like a month. Abraham Toro for cheap and a band aid add would be an ok recycle in my opinion as well (again for like a month or so).

[duewizard]

5 hours ago, jay87shot said:

Is this Nick Maton? I would rather just give Mone another shot over Maton, I just saw Owen Miller called up to the Rockies, he would be a guy that could be a cheap upgrade that I could get behind for like a month. Abraham Toro for cheap and a band aid add would be an ok recycle in my opinion as well (again for like a month or so).

I was thinking as depth in case Monasterio performs like he did last year. For a month until we can trade for a real major leaguer. Agreed that Toro would be a good option

[jay87shot]

We could have 12 good starting options by the trade deadline if everyone gets healthy and the AAA guys keep pitching exceptionally.

1. Freddy 2. Woody 3. Quintana 4. Civale 5. Cortes 6. Myers 7. Patrick 8. Priester 9. Misi 10. Henderson 11, CarRod 12. Gasser 

I think Civale and Cortes (maybe Quintana if he continues to come back down to his norms) become good trade options once they can make a couple starts and prove their health to the rest of the league. I doubt any of them will be good enough to warrant a QO like we thought could be possible.

What about selling high on Chad Patrick? He has been great but likely long term is still a 4/5 and Murphy doesn't seem to have a ton of confidence in him (short leash). What would a good value be, could we get something that is around what we gave up for Priester?

Would Chad Patrick for Will Wagner and a younger starter like Juaron Watts-Brown be enough. We get a 3rd base option (not very good this year) and some upside, maybe throw in a wild card prospect?

Ramon Urias and a a pitcher like Nestor German would be a better package from the O's if they would give up Urias.

Maybe the dodgers would do Miguel Rojas and a upside starter who was hurt last year like River Ryan or Emmett Sheehan

[Brian]

1 hour ago, jay87shot said:

What about selling high on Chad Patrick? He has been great but likely long term is still a 4/5 and Murphy doesn't seem to have a ton of confidence in him (short leash).

Chad Patrick has pitched 31.1 innings already, that's more than Tyler Alexander at 24.1 innings and it seems Anderson has pitched quite a bit.  Maybe Patrick's velo was down the day of the short leash?  With a 2.87 ERA we better get someone "quite good" for him.  I would trade Alexander before Patrick. 

[Jopal78]

2 hours ago, jay87shot said:

We could have 12 good starting options by the trade deadline if everyone gets healthy and the AAA guys keep pitching exceptionally.

1. Freddy 2. Woody 3. Quintana 4. Civale 5. Cortes 6. Myers 7. Patrick 8. Priester 9. Misi 10. Henderson 11, CarRod 12. Gasser 

I think Civale and Cortes (maybe Quintana if he continues to come back down to his norms) become good trade options once they can make a couple starts and prove their health to the rest of the league. I doubt any of them will be good enough to warrant a QO like we thought could be possible.

What about selling high on Chad Patrick? He has been great but likely long term is still a 4/5 and Murphy doesn't seem to have a ton of confidence in him (short leash). What would a good value be, could we get something that is around what we gave up for Priester?

Would Chad Patrick for Will Wagner and a younger starter like Juaron Watts-Brown be enough. We get a 3rd base option (not very good this year) and some upside, maybe throw in a wild card prospect?

Ramon Urias and a a pitcher like Nestor German would be a better package from the O's if they would give up Urias.

Maybe the dodgers would do Miguel Rojas and a upside starter who was hurt last year like River Ryan or Emmett Sheehan

First with Misiorowski, he’s not topped 100 innings in a season as a professional. He’s sitting at 35 innings right now, and no need for a SP in Milwaukee. Maybe he debuts as a reliever but unless they want to tax his arm if/when they need him he probably won’t have enough innings under his limit to make much impact as a starter.

As for Patrick the Brewers have 4 SP heading to free agency this off-season. The last thing they should be doing is trading away a rookie SP like Patrick who has already shown some ability to go through a lineup 2+ tines. 

[jay87shot]

16 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

First with Misiorowski, he’s not topped 100 innings in a season as a professional. He’s sitting at 35 innings right now, and no need for a SP in Milwaukee. Maybe he debuts as a reliever but unless they want to tax his arm if/when they need him he probably won’t have enough innings under his limit to make much impact as a starter.

As for Patrick the Brewers have 4 SP heading to free agency this off-season. The last thing they should be doing is trading away a rookie SP like Patrick who has already shown some ability to go through a lineup 2+ tines. 

I agree, Misi isn't probably a starter all year but he is looking like he is ready to come up. Misi threw 97 innings, my guess is that 125-135 innings should be the goal. That gives him like 20 starts at 5 innings each and 25+ bullpen innings. Honestly the workload would be more a concern for Henderson than Misi, My point with trading Patrick is that his value might never be higher than this, if the organization values the upside of Myers, Misi, Henderson, CarRod, Preister, and guys like Hunt or Wichrowski trading him at peek value makes some sense. I wouldn't trade him cheap I would want a capable left side infielder and a quality prospect, if you take into account that Patrick was never even a top 30 prospect and will be 27 by the the end of the season I think getting a Priester style return would be worth it, With his the quality of his starts and remaining control I wouldn't trade him cheap but my worry is that the league will adjust to him and he will revert back to a #5/long relief pitcher.

We are potentially losing 4 starters but don't forget we will likely sign a couple of vets somewhere in the Quintana-Junis-Alexander realm next year. Who knows what will happen with Freddy but my guess would be that if we trade him we would get an mlb ready pitcher (and more).

[jay87shot]

1 hour ago, Brian said:

Chad Patrick has pitched 31.1 innings already, that's more than Tyler Alexander at 24.1 innings and it seems Anderson has pitched quite a bit.  Maybe Patrick's velo was down the day of the short leash?  With a 2.87 ERA we better get someone "quite good" for him.  I would trade Alexander before Patrick. 

I would trade Alexander as well but he has basically no value, once Woody, Civale, Ashby, Hall, Nestor come back there will be a major roster spot crunch on the pitching staff. Alexander is probably like 2nd to go after e-rod but Patrick is safe for a while but a couple bad starts and he might move down quickly based on Murphy having a quick hook once he gets through a lineup 2 times. I would rather get something for him now (if someone will overpay) than end up with him being a Colin Rae type down the road with no value.

[Brewer77]

I can’t foresee the Brewers getting an offer for Patrick right now that is greater than his value as a guy they can shuttle between Nashville and Milwaukee for the next 3 years. Maybe he could be part of a larger deal though 

[TURBO]

1 hour ago, jay87shot said:

I would trade Alexander as well but he has basically no value, once Woody, Civale, Ashby, Hall, Nestor come back there will be a major roster spot crunch on the pitching staff. Alexander is probably like 2nd to go after e-rod but Patrick is safe for a while but a couple bad starts and he might move down quickly based on Murphy having a quick hook once he gets through a lineup 2 times. I would rather get something for him now (if someone will overpay) than end up with him being a Colin Rae type down the road with no value.

I really would put zero faith in Ashby, Hall or Cortes at this point.  To COUNT on any one of them, much less all 3 would be a giant mistake.