Cortes traded to Padres

[edfunderburk]

44 minutes ago, dlk9s said:

I look forward to the "THANK YOU, NESTOR" post from the Brewers' social media team.

When you consider his first three pitches of 2025 - it’s amazing that we got anything for him in a trade

[MilwaukeeBeers]

Having to add Quintana and Cash is terrible. TERRIBLE. 

[SRB]

3 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

Can someone post Lockridge’s MiLB stats? 

Last year: 402 PA, .306/.410/.397, 2 HR, 46 SB

This year: 99 PA, .291/..408/.468, 2 HR, 7 SB

[MilwaukeeBeers]

4 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

Can someone post Lockridge’s MiLB stats? 

I'll summarize his profile having watched a decent amount of plate appearances. He is a short scrub. He can run he can field. Not much else. Swings a wet noodle you'll be lucky to see 30 raw power. 

[Joseph Zarr]

5 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

You always offer great perspective in your posts. Can you explain what you mean? Are you frustrated OR do you believe this is a good trade? Please explain …

I find it hilarious in that Lockridge is essentially a 5'11" Pinch Runner. He is org depth. I don't think he is MLB roster-able, per se, at present and I personally feel the Brewers added to their AAAA OF depth - they have several guys who fit this mould. I like many if these players, fwiw. I watch them all weekly. It is funny in that we all waited until the very end of the Trade Deadline (before we knew we got Shelby Miller) and we trimmed our starting depth fir a 50 wRC+ MlB speedster who has so far not shown he can hit MLB pitching. The Brewers personnel staff just has a very uniquely their own approach and it works more often than it does not.

[edfunderburk]

Based on the comments in this topic, it is a given that Lockridge will get the game-winning hit in a deciding game playoff series this Fall

[SRB]

Just now, MilwaukeeBeers said:

I'll summarize his profile having watched a decent amount of plate appearances. He is a short scrub. He can run he can field. Not much else. Swings a wet noodle you'll be lucky to see 30 raw power. 

Consistently maintaining a .400 OBP at AAA is not nothing. He's an on-base machine who can run and play defense. Still looks like a 5th OF to me, but I can see the front office thinking his eye at the plate might translate to the majors better than a late-20s AAAA guy who relies on power.

[Brian]

CBS Sports: The Padres traded Lockridge to the Brewers on Thursday in exchange for Nestor Cortes (elbow), Adam McCalvy of MLB.com reports.

Lockridge has slashed .282/.402/.462 through 99 plate appearances in Triple-A this season but hasn't found nearly the same success in the bigs, as he sports just a .519 OPS through 47 games with the Padres. He'll fill in as organizational outfield depth for the Brewers, who are likely to keep the 28-year-old in Triple-A for now.

[SRB]

1 minute ago, Joseph Zarr said:

I find it hilarious in that Lockridge is essentially a 5'11" Pinch Runner. He is org depth. I don't think he is MLB roster-able, per se, at present and I personally feel the Brewers added to their AAAA OF depth - they have several guys who fit this mould. I like many if these players, fwiw. I watch them all weekly. It is funny in that we all waited until the very end of the Trade Deadline (before we knew we got Shelby Miller) and we trimmed our starting depth fir a 50 wRC+ MlB speedster who has so far not shown he can hit MLB pitching. The Brewers personnel staff just has a very uniquely their own approach and it works more often than it does not.

Well that's generally the return when you're looking for value in a trade. The projection systems all think he can be a decent enough bench OF, for what it's worth. (80-90 wRC+ with solid defense)

[MilwaukeeBeers]

1 minute ago, SRB said:

Consistently maintaining a .400 OBP at AAA is not nothing. He's an on-base machine who can run and play defense. Still looks like a 5th OF to me, but I can see the front office thinking his eye at the plate might translate to the majors better than a late-20s AAAA guy who relies on power.

Oh I assure you he is a nothing. Drew Avans makes him completely redundant and doesn't take a spot on the 40 man. 

[True Blue Brew Crew]

1 minute ago, edfunderburk said:

Based on the comments in this topic, it is a given that Lockridge will get the game-winning hit in a deciding game playoff series this Fall

I'm assuming he's going to steal home to win game 7 of the World Series the way this day has played out

[edfunderburk]

2 minutes ago, SRB said:

Consistently maintaining a .400 OBP at AAA is not nothing. He's an on-base machine who can run and play defense. Still looks like a 5th OF to me, but I can see the front office thinking his eye at the plate might translate to the majors better than a late-20s AAAA guy who relies on power.

Another Estury Ruiz? Is that a good comp?

[biedergb]

8 minutes ago, MilwaukeeBeers said:

Having to add Quintana and Cash is terrible. TERRIBLE. 

Did we truly trade Jorge Quintana.

Again it's likely he will never be any impact at the MLB level, it is just the wasted asset. He is so young, high pedigree player, and being used to help offload a quality MLB pitcher??? Even with the Miller trade, still completely perplexed by the asset management.  Quintana could and should have been a bigger chip is a deal to add a player, not one to make one go away.

[MilwaukeeBeers]

Just now, biedergb said:

Did we truly trade Jorge Quintana.

Again it's likely he will never be any impact at the MLB level, it is just the wasted asset. He is so young, high pedigree player, and being used to help offload a quality MLB pitcher??? Even with the Miller trade, still completely perplexed by the asset management.  Quintana could and should have been a bigger chip is a deal to add a player, not one to make one go away.

Unfortunately yes. I feel the same odds of him contributing are low but he is 18 a switch hitter, and got the highest signing bonus from the ITNL class of Made and Pena. That is not nothing. Feels like a complete waste of an asset like you said. Even if you are really really low on him. 

[SRB]

3 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

Another Estury Ruiz? Is that a good comp?

I think Ruiz has flashier speed and teams were hoping he would unlock more power. Lockridge seems like a player profile that used to be common in the majors but isn't around as much anymore. Blake Perkins doesn't seem that far off as a comp tbh. (And Perkins has been a great contributor for us!)

[biedergb]

2 minutes ago, MilwaukeeBeers said:

Unfortunately yes. I feel the same odds of him contributing are low but he is 18 a switch hitter, and got the highest signing bonus from the ITNL class of Made and Pena. That is not nothing. Feels like a complete waste of an asset like you said. Even if you are really really low on him. 

Thanks.

 

Yeah, I'm one of those "hold on to every prospect we have forever" types. 

But it the use of those prospects as assets.  I still don't see how we had to pay salary and give up a prospect to trade Cortes who is a MLB quality pitcher, and the going price for pitchers is high.  I get the moving salary and 40-man player out in Cortes, but the return should have higher, or the add on prices from our organization should have been lower.  I'm still so confused (and slightly annoyed) at this trade.

[edfunderburk]

2 minutes ago, SRB said:

I think Ruiz has flashier speed and teams were hoping he would unlock more power. Lockridge seems like a player profile that used to be common in the majors but isn't around as much anymore. Blake Perkins doesn't seem that far off as a comp tbh. (And Perkins has been a great contributor for us!)

Awesome. Perkins is one of my favorite Brewers players. 

[MilwaukeeBeers]

2 minutes ago, biedergb said:

Thanks.

 

Yeah, I'm one of those "hold on to every prospect we have forever" types. 

But it the use of those prospects as assets.  I still don't see how we had to pay salary and give up a prospect to trade Cortes who is a MLB quality pitcher, and the going price for pitchers is high.  I get the moving salary and 40-man player out in Cortes, but the return should have higher, or the add on prices from our organization should have been lower.  I'm still so confused (and slightly annoyed) at this trade.

My thoughts exactly. When you see what most rental arms went for it is puzzling to say the least. Especially when Preller is having a prospect fire sale. Very very annoying trade. 

[TURBO]

Gross

[adambr2]

I know we don’t like parting with young prospects especially in a move like this, but he hadn’t shown a ton, even in rookie ball. I don’t think Quintana was in our organizational top 30 anymore.

I know he’s 18. As they almost are in Rookie ball. 

Someone said there’s probably a 98% chance he never amounts to anything, I think that’s probably accurate. There’s only so many guys in the organization you can even get on the field. It just opens up an opportunity for the next 18 year old.

It's just not that big of a deal.

[Playing Catch]

His slugging percentage comes from where, exactly? Hustle-doubles? For a guy that can run like he can, and gets on base at a .400 clip?? I mean, I wouldn't want to face him as a pitcher in a tight game, that's for sure. And these days, the game is all bull-penning anyway. How are you gunna score a big run late with a pinch-hitter against the Mets or Padres bullpens? With a cromulent, albeit strikeout prone, power hitter, or a guy with Lockridge's profile?

[MillerParkSouth]

Sure the odds of Quintana doing anything are low but they’re not zero. The fact that we had to part with a legit prospect and cash in order to offload Cortes for a AAAA player is baffling.  This is why people are pissed about attanasio being so cheap. There was absolutely no reason to make this trade.  Hang onto Cortes for depth if nothing else, don’t pay a price to get get rid of him for no return.

[Devinep]

In a three-player trade, you typically don’t want to end up with only 3rd most valuable player. Sigh

[Scooterfletcher]

Look at it as Cortes for Shelby Miller if you want to be an optimist in line with what the front office had to have been thinking .

[ClosetBrewerFan]

This states that the Brewers get no salary relief in the Cortes trade.  Padres will be paying the prorated minimum salary for Cortes (and presumably so will the Brewers with Lockridge when he is in the majors).  Wow. The Brewers must sure love Lockridge.

After all my complaints about the Civale and Priester trades.  I'll withhold my complaints for now.  They must see something in him that is worth an overpay.