Brewers at Nationals; Sunday, August 3 @ 12:35 p.m.: Logan Henderson (1.71 ERA, 3.05 FIP) vs. Brad Lord (3.27 ERA, 3.47 FIP)

[Underachiever]

Butterfly effect. Two men on, there is no guarantee the same pitch to Turang  would have happened. If Siegler hadn’t been picked off, Turang may have grounded into a double play. Or Murphy may have had him bunt. 3-0 is pretty cool.

[BruisedCrew]

If Siegler is considered a better option than Durbin against RHP, that makes it all the more unconscionable that the Brewers couldn’t find a better utility IF at the deadline.

I think it’s possible that that the Cubs grabbed Castro in part to keep the Brewers from getting him. 

[Vgmastr]

I'm not defending Siegler, because that was an awful play, but you can't say it should be 4-0, we have no idea how the inning would have played out with runners at 1st and 2nd.  It's the butterfly effect, the Nationals likely pitch everyone differently with the extra baserunner, it's more than likely Turang doesn't hit the HR if Siegler's on 2nd.

[BCF]

Just now, Underachiever said:

Butterfly effect. Two men on, there is no guarantee the same pitch to Turang  would have happened. If Siegler hadn’t been picked off, Turang may have grounded into a double play. Or Murphy may have had him bunt. 3-0 is pretty cool.

Exactly lol. Ortiz probably bunts them to 2nd and 3rd and your approach changes with two on and one out compared to runner at first with two outs 

[adambr2]

What was Seigler’s baserunning mistake? I didn’t see it, Gameday just said he was out at second on a single which seemed a little befuddling to me.

[Underachiever]

1 minute ago, adambr2 said:

What was Seigler’s baserunning mistake? I didn’t see it, Gameday just said he was out at second on a single which seemed a little befuddling to me.

Rounded second, they threw behind him and got him diving back 

[edfunderburk]

3 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

If Siegler is considered a better option than Durbin against RHP, that makes it all the more unconscionable that the Brewers couldn’t find a better utility IF at the deadline.

I think it’s possible that that the Cubs grabbed Castro in part to keep the Brewers from getting him. 

Seigler feels very similar to Dunn … trying to find a solid LH bat who can play multiple positions 

[Underachiever]

20-6 on the road is insane.

[Brian]

3 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

If Siegler is considered a better option than Durbin against RHP, that makes it all the more unconscionable that the Brewers couldn’t find a better utility IF at the deadline.

I think it’s possible that that the Cubs grabbed Castro in part to keep the Brewers from getting him. 

Seigler is not considered a better option than Durbin, I'm sure just a day off for Durbin. 

[Frisbee Slider]

3 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

Rounded second, they threw behind him and got him diving back 

A better base running choice than Jazz Chisholm yesterday but still a bad decision.

[BruisedCrew]

3 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

Butterfly effect. Two men on, there is no guarantee the same pitch to Turang  would have happened. If Siegler hadn’t been picked off, Turang may have grounded into a double play. Or Murphy may have had him bunt. 3-0 is pretty cool.

Completely agree. 
It’s a common fallacy to assume that everything that happens after a certain event would have gone exactly the same way if the original event had gone differently.

One of the worst is when an umpire makes a bad or questionable ball or strike call. It should be obvious that a pitcher is likely to throw a different pitch in a different location based on the count. 

[willie key]

4 minutes ago, Frisbee Slider said:

A better base running choice than Jazz Chisholm yesterday but still a bad decision.

It’s amazing how some professional baseball players act like they’ve never played baseball before

[BruisedCrew]

4 minutes ago, Brian said:

Seigler is not considered a better option than Durbin, I'm sure just a day off for Durbin. 

He shouldn’t need a day off two days in a row. 

I think that makes 3 times in a row that Siegler has started against a RH starter. 

It’s looking more like a straight platoon

[Samurai Bucky]

3 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

He shouldn’t need a day off two days in a row. 

I think that makes 3 times in a row that Siegler has started against a RH starter. 

It’s looking more like a straight platoon

I agree.  When others have made baserunning mistakes like that, in the doghouse, they would be.

[wibadgers23]

Henderson has settled in nicely.

[treego14]

Logan is Smogan!

[Brian]

1 minute ago, BruisedCrew said:

He shouldn’t need a day off two days in a row. 

I think that makes 3 times in a row that Siegler has started against a RH starter. 

It’s looking more like a straight platoon

It won't be if Seigler doesn't start hitting soon.  I don't think he will continue the platoon either. But we are also playing a sucky Nationals team this is the best time to let Seigler tryout. JMHO

[Brian]

Seigler not good at all, I wouldn't be surprised if he is in Nashville tomorrow. Oops I meant by our next home stand. ATL next. 

[BruisedCrew]

5 minutes ago, Brian said:

It won't be if Seigler doesn't start hitting soon.  I don't think he will continue the platoon either. But we are also playing a sucky Nationals team this is the best time to let Seigler tryout. JMHO

I don’t care how sucky the opponent is. This is not a time for tryouts. 

[willie key]

1 minute ago, BruisedCrew said:

I don’t care how sucky the opponent is. This is not a time for tryouts. 

Agree.   It’s not travel ball

[treego14]

Just now, willie key said:

Agree.   It’s not travel ball

Relax!  It's the tried-and-true Brewers way!

[treego14]

Cubs getting a jump on the O's in the 1st inning ...

[BruisedCrew]

They have a race car circling the track with a Home Run flag after dingers at the Speedway Classic.

Neatest hone run celebration since Bernie’s slide. 

[markedman5]

Henderson settled in nicely after the first

[mudbutt]

It is worth a shot to see if Siegler can outperform Durbins mediocre results against RH pitching.  Tough crowd.