Dodgers (Yamamoto) vs Brewers (Peralta): 10/14/25, 7:08pm

[jason21nl]

Good thing their starting pitching gets easier from here….oh wait…..

[edfunderburk]

7 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

"Backs against the wall" generally means that you believe there is a low chance of success.  

But perhaps you are missing the point I'm making... It doesn't matter if I believe we can win the series or not.  I simply cheer to win the next game and don't worry about the end.  I'm just here trying to enjoy the journey. 

I understand your point 

You still refuse to answer my question 

I know you are smart enough to not expect them to win 

You don’t have to tell me 

 

[HarveysWBs]

Essentially, for the Brewers to win a title under these conditions, they pretty much need to hang around until about the first week of September and then go supernova like they did post-All Star break this year, and they'd still need to get all the breaks to beat a Dodger team playing like this. Even then, I'm not sure replicating their July and August in October is even really possible.

Yet, being light years away from their offensive peak, they've still lost the first two of this series by only a combined five runs, could have (should have?) stolen game one, and have held Ohtani down in a park that would reward an awful lot of pull fly balls from him. But for that, the deficit is still 2-0 and feels a lot bigger than that.

Hey Chris Berman, I could really use a "And that's why they play the game" right about now.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

The economic structure of baseball is unfair. Mark A could also spend quite a bit more on payroll. He's pouring cash into Benfica and Norwich over in Europe, so the investment capital is clearly there. I don't blame him for spending it on a sport with a big potential growth market. He's still an excellent Brewers owner. But it's not entirely on MLB that the payrolls here are so imbalanced.

It really is as simple as win one game. That's it. Put the pressure on them and see how they respond. They probably do and will respond. But we were up 2-0 in a shorter series, lost a nailbiter in Game 3 and then really needed some nails performances from the bullpen to win Game 5. It doesn't matter if the team wins the series. Just win once and take your shot at bringing the series back to Milwaukee.

[da swedish german]

yeeeeuup

think i'm done with baseball boys.  gave it a good 20 years

plenty of trout to catch and guitar music to play during the summer. it's entertaining as well

[BCF]

22 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

They've been that kind of team nearly every year and their current regime has won exactly one championship out of it. Last year. That COVID clown show doesn't count. 

They got better from last year after winning the World Series 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 minute ago, HarveysWBs said:

Essentially, for the Brewers to win a title under these conditions, they pretty much need to hang around until about the first week of September and then go supernova like they did post-All Star break this year, and they'd still need to get all the breaks to beat a Dodger team playing like this. Even then, I'm not sure replicating their July and August in October is even really possible.

Yet, being light years away from their offensive peak, they've still lost the first two of this series by only a combined five runs, could have (should have?) stolen game one, and have held Ohtani down in a park that would reward an awful lot of pull fly balls from him. But for that, the deficit is still 2-0 and feels a lot bigger than that.

Hey Chris Berman, I could really use a "And that's why they play the game" right about now.

A more realistic path is the Brewers have a year like this and the Dodgers just have 2 bad days in the Wild Card and lose to someone like Cincinnati. Then getting dumped in a short series is fairly plausible. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 minute ago, BCF said:

They got better from last year after winning the World Series 

Ok? Point is they've been the "best team" a lot and have not much to show for it relatively speaking. They have been ousted quite often by teams they were supposed to beat. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

With all the woodpecker this, woodpecker that stuff re our offensive makeup, they really out-woodpeckered us tonight. As talented a lineup as they have, the quality of the ABs LA puts up---from the neck up----was just really impressive. All game, it felt like the only guy you might get a chase from was Ohtani. I don't know how often we chased but even if it was a somewhat respectable number it pales in comparison when the other team is at not much more than zero. Muncy going from 0-2 to 3-2 in the HR AB exemplified it, but there were many other examples. Hernandez gets to 3-0 by taking three breaking balls, all over the plate but low, and not by much. He takes all three. Then, goes yard. Pretty incredible.

Did not expect Yamamoto to be that much on point, but he was great. Everyone loves the aggressive "attack early" mindset, but this is the flip side if it doesn't result in baserunners--the one possible achilles heel of LA is the pen, and we never saw it. That said, it looked like there was no way we were driving up his pitch count unless we happened to foul off about 45 more pitches. Kind of amazing to see a team go through nine innings w/so few balls being barreled up. If I'm Mark Pryor the only thing I'd rail on him about is why he would ever throw anything reachable to Yelich because right now you don't need to do that to get him out.

Not much else to say. They're playing their best ball at the right time, Muncy & Smith are back, and when you get starts like this you obviously don't need to overstress your pen.,

 

[CheezWizHed]

5 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

I understand your point 

You still refuse to answer my question 

I know you are smart enough to not expect them to win 

You don’t have to tell me 

 

What do you think "low chance of success means???"

 

[Bulldogboy]

The question i ask is if deffered money is s thing why don't Brewers use that to a big guy and say you could be the piece to put us over the top. Win the first Series here ever. Yelich will be off v the books in 3 years back load money and try to do something big for a change. I remember when they got Yelich and Cain the same day. We need that feeling. 

[HarveysWBs]

8 minutes ago, BCF said:

They got better from last year after winning the World Series 

Yeah, I keep trying to hope that the Dodgers winning a title and then making even more huge signings (Yamamoto 12 years, $325 mil plus a $50mil signing fee to the Orix Buffaloes, signaling their intention to basically turn all of Japan into their own private talent farm) would be such an offensive financial decision that even the Yankees would balk and start demanding structural changes. Remains to be seen.

EDIT: nvm, forgot Yamamoto was signed going into 2024, not this year. Losing a grip on the facts.

[folly412]

3 minutes ago, HarveysWBs said:

Yeah, I keep trying to hope that the Dodgers winning a title and then making even more huge signings (Yamamoto 12 years, $325 mil plus a $50mil signing fee to the Orix Buffaloes, signaling their intention to basically turn all of Japan into their own private talent farm) would be such an offensive financial decision that even the Yankees would balk and start demanding structural changes. Remains to be seen.

The large market teams, in particular LA are cornering the market on Japan signings.  And it pays for itself for them to keep the market cornered.  Used to be a problem with Latin America until the signing pool.  Needs to be addressed in the next CBA.

[nate82]

9 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

There is hopefully a modest upgrade to Ortiz out there though for at least the ‘26 and ‘27 seasons.

Doesn't look like there is at least not in FA that is a reasonable add.  

SHORTSTOPS

Miguel Rojas (37 years old, 4.5 WAR)
Bo Bichette (28, 4.1)
Trevor Story (33, 3.7) -- can opt out (Red Sox can void via club option)
Ha-Seong Kim (30, 2.9) -- player option
Isiah Kiner-Falefa (31, 2.8)
Jorge Mateo (31, 0.2) -- club option
Orlando Arcia (31, 0.0)
Tim Anderson (33, -1.3)

Probably just best to go with Ortiz for '26 and hope Made makes the same leap Chourio did and is ready for '27.  Probably unlikely for Made to do that so realistically it is probably '28 for Made.  

Trade market there really isn't anyone and no Rengifo is not an option.  Probably just best to move Turang back to SS and move Ortiz back to 3B.  I would prefer a trade for someone like Donovan but I doubt the Cardinals would trade him in the division.  

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

Low-key, I've thought Durbin has been a big key for us. He was good at third tonight, but his first two ABs included six pitches. All strikes. For the woodpecker thing to work, that dude has to see pitches. 

I might be tempted to start Lockridge on Thursday just because he leads the world in pitches seen.

[yourout]

It's the varsity versus the JV. 

I'm not surprised but I'm a little disappointed that we aren't being more competitive. 

But then again you could probably make an all-star team out of all the remaining NL players and they might not even be able to beat the dodgers right now. 

This might be a historically good team as in the best dodger team of my lifetime

[Fear The Chorizo]

24 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

The question i ask is if deffered money is s thing why don't Brewers use that to a big guy and say you could be the piece to put us over the top. Win the first Series here ever. Yelich will be off v the books in 3 years back load money and try to do something big for a change. I remember when they got Yelich and Cain the same day. We need that feeling. 

They did that to the extent they felt comfortable financially with Yelich.  Many other teams do it here and there, too.  The difference for the Dodgers is they are a mammoth market with crazy revenue streams they dont need to share that dwarf even the Yankees, giving them zero concerns about what deferring a ton of money now means for their ability to put a dominant team on the field 10 seasons from now.  Their TV deal and exposure to Asian markets are literally printing presses.

[Ro Mueller]

On the bright side, Snell’s start doesn’t look quite as impressive anymore.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Just now, yourout said:

It's the varsity versus the JV. 

I'm not surprised but I'm a little disappointed that we aren't being more competitive. 

But then again you could probably make an all-star team out of all the remaining NL players and they might not even be able to beat the dodgers right now. 

This might be a historically good team as in the best dodger team of my lifetime

This Dodger team would sweep the 2018 Dodger team

[treego14]

If one considers each game to be a 50-50 proposition of winning the game, the Brewers have a 18.75% chance of still winning this series.  This is pure mathematics.  Nothing else considered.

[yourout]

1 hour ago, RobertCrawley said:

Murph still believes we have a 4 run inning in us.

I think he meant four runs in the series.

[owbc]

48 minutes ago, folly412 said:

The gameplan to hack early and often against the pitcher who gives up the fewest H/9 was a choice that did not pan out.

Yeah I don’t really understand the Brewers game plan or approach at the plate. I hate comparing them to Seattle but I watched Seattle win twice against Detroit when Skubal started by chasing Skubal after 6. They had a much more defensive approach at the plate that was designed to run up the pitch count. They fouled off a lot of good pitches. Ones like those that the Brewers were putting in play with weak contact.

I don’t buy that our talent level or roster construction isn’t good enough to beat LA. We put up an extremely poor showing at the plate and we have to do better. We have to get their starters up to 100 pitches by the 7th inning. Even so, this series isn’t that far from being 1-1.

This isn’t over yet. A change of scenery might do them well. We have 100 wins this year, we will win more games this week. 

[Joseph Zarr]

It's a shame we couldn't have used the team's best bunter tonight.

[Jim French Stepstool]

48 minutes ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

Low-key, I've thought Durbin has been a big key for us. He was good at third tonight, but his first two ABs included six pitches. All strikes. For the woodpecker thing to work, that dude has to see pitches. 

I might be tempted to start Lockridge on Thursday just because he leads the world in pitches seen.

Yes, from Durbin & frankly other guys, too. Durbin, Collins, Frelick epitomized that but haven't been able to replicate it in quite some time. Even with all his struggles, Ortiz seemed to foul off more pitches & go deeper into counts than he is now. I thought Turang showed elements of that this summer, then started hitting HRs & now almost looks like someone that HAS to hit the long ball to be effective. I think the next stage for him is to at least partially get back to discipline & contact & when the HRs come, they come but don't make that your signature.

Contreras has been mostly consistent all year afa AB quality is concerned. And with everything else a catcher has on his plate, too. Team MVP.

[wiguy94]

5 hours ago, Brewluver said:

Everyone does that, it's not noteworthy to talk about it like it's an anomaly

At the point they commented that the Brewers as a team had a chase rate over 50%. That is certainly an anomaly