How many do you trust

[Bulldogboy]

The question is and should be how many of the current 26 many Brewers roster do you trust come playoff time. For me that's the way I measure how many guys we need to add. For me I have 17. They have 9 players right now who are unplayable in a playoff series. Arnold has a ton of work to do. 

[brewmann04]

Imo they need to find one or two hitters especially before the deadline if possible 

[crossface2311]

I think they definitely need a bullpen arm, if not 2. It's not even so much about the trust, but these guys are getting overworked.

And the backend of this bullpen is just not good at all. Getting Koenig back is good, but whatever is happening with Patrick isn't good. And a guy they probably counted on improving-Yoho, has obviously not happened. They need more arms that can pitch in those games where they are only down a run or 2 and can keep it close to give them a chance. 

[baseball101]

1 hour ago, Bulldogboy said:

The question is and should be how many of the current 26 many Brewers roster do you trust come playoff time. For me that's the way I measure how many guys we need to add. For me I have 17. They have 9 players right now who are unplayable in a playoff series. Arnold has a ton of work to do. 

Name who you trust and who you don’t. And tell us if the minor league players are who you want called up and which ones. Rank the current players from your “trust” scale starting from one on. 

[baseball101]

It would also be great for you to tell us what teams roster you “trust.” Dodgers? Braves? Yankees? Phillies? I gotta see these elite rosters that go 15 deep.

[Bulldogboy]

7 hours ago, baseball101 said:

Name who you trust and who you don’t. And tell us if the minor league players are who you want called up and which ones. Rank the current players from your “trust” scale starting from one on. 

Start with you. This should be good. Blake Perkins?

[Bulldogboy]

7 hours ago, baseball101 said:

It would also be great for you to tell us what teams roster you “trust.” Dodgers? Braves? Yankees? Phillies? I gotta see these elite rosters that go 15 deep.

Dodgers? Yeah I think so.

[Brewcrew82]

3 hours ago, Bulldogboy said:

Start with you. This should be good. Blake Perkins?

Perkins is only on the roster because Lockridge is injured. 

[liveforoctober]

13 hours ago, Bulldogboy said:

The question is and should be how many of the current 26 many Brewers roster do you trust come playoff time. For me that's the way I measure how many guys we need to add. For me I have 17. They have 9 players right now who are unplayable in a playoff series. Arnold has a ton of work to do. 

Lockridge, Hall, and Henderson fix a lot of the issues both in bullpen stability and with Perk.

I think if you are expecting Arnold to add half a dozen guys to this roster at the deadline (barring injuries) you are going to be very disappointed IMO. We will add a bullpen arm or two and MAYBE a depth starter if we sustain any more injuries. 

[Brian]

13 hours ago, Bulldogboy said:

The question is and should be how many of the current 26 many Brewers roster do you trust come playoff time. For me that's the way I measure how many guys we need to add. For me I have 17. They have 9 players right now who are unplayable in a playoff series. Arnold has a ton of work to do. 

It's not Arnold, 🤪 you talk as if Arnold has $500 million in a shoe box just to do anything he wants to better the team.

It's Mark Attanasio with the wallet, not Arnold.  Maybe you ought to call up Mark and give him an ear full of your requests. 

[Brewcrew82]

4 minutes ago, liveforoctober said:

Lockridge, Hall, and Henderson fix a lot of the issues both in bullpen stability and with Perk.

I think if you are expecting Arnold to add half a dozen guys to this roster at the deadline (barring injuries) you are going to be very disappointed IMO. We will add a bullpen arm or two and MAYBE a depth starter if we sustain any more injuries. 

Plus, if you would poll any contender's fanbase after a frustrating loss like yesterday, you would get a list at least this long. No team is without holes. The Brewers have as few as any team this side of the Dodgers. 

[Team Canada]

12 minutes ago, Brian said:

It's Mark Attanasio with the wallet, not Arnold.  Maybe you ought to call up Mark and give him an ear full of your requests. 

This doesn't need to turn into yet another thread about market inequalities, but Mark doesn't have 500M to spend on free agents. It's a structural problem.

Now, back to talking about who you trust or not.

[owbc]

Deadline trades are usually not about money, they are about how much prospect capital you are willing to pay. Unless we are willing to take on bad contracts, then we can trade for Mike Trout and finally get him a World Series appearance! 

[Bulldogboy]

This is definitely not another Mark A post. Just seeing if people agree that the bottom of the roster needs work. Now do I expect Arnold to bring on 8 guys? Of course not. Brewers are always going to be challenged in this area. That said how do feel about Joey Ortiz in a big spot come playoff time? Can't happen? It's happened for three years. Something could and should be done.

[Bulldogboy]

55 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Plus, if you would poll any contender's fanbase after a frustrating loss like yesterday, you would get a list at least this long. No team is without holes. The Brewers have as few as any team this side of the Dodgers. 

Really? OK I will put you down for 24 out of 26. 😀

[Bulldogboy]

1 hour ago, Brian said:

It's not Arnold, 🤪 you talk as if Arnold has $500 million in a shoe box just to do anything he wants to better the team.

It's Mark Attanasio with the wallet, not Arnold.  Maybe you ought to call up Mark and give him an ear full of your requests. 

Do we have the best farm in the business? If so you can use it. This isn't free agency 

[owbc]

13 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

This is definitely not another Mark A post. Just seeing if people agree that the bottom of the roster needs work. Now do I expect Arnold to bring on 8 guys? Of course not. Brewers are always going to be challenged in this area. That said how do feel about Joey Ortiz in a big spot come playoff time? Can't happen? It's happened for three years. Something could and should be done.

What exactly is the “something” that could/should be done? Your #8 hitter isn’t going to decide a playoff series but as the WBC showed, his glove definitely could. 

[nate82]

There really isn't an impact player that is available in the trade market.  The best is probably Byron Buxton and he probably isn't available.  The next best option is Wilson Contreras.  Offensively this trade market is well below average for impact bats.  For the Brewers it is  even worse as there is no 3B to replace Ortiz.  In the OF you have Buxton but can he stay healthy and will he waive his no trade?  

Pitching wise there is enough out there but no one who is an impact pitcher, I don't believe Skubal will be traded as Detroit is close to a playoff spot.  The next best options are Gray and Alcantara.  Then relief pitchers it is Chapman and then?  

[Bulldogboy]

50 minutes ago, owbc said:

What exactly is the “something” that could/should be done? Your #8 hitter isn’t going to decide a playoff series but as the WBC showed, his glove definitely could. 

Joey Ortiz should not see a playoff roster imo. There are better utility infielder options out there who can chip in with the bat. 

[owbc]

6 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

Joey Ortiz should not see a playoff roster imo. There are better utility infielder options out there who can chip in with the bat. 

Who are they? Need some names. 

[Turning2]

For the bats, I only trust Contreras, Chourio and Vaughn not to shrivel like George Constanza coming out of the pool come playoff time. That's pretty pathetic. Too many hot or cold hitters in this lineup, and nobody that really inspires the rest when the going gets tough. 

Pitching, I trust the big 3 at the top of the rotation. If he's not completely overused by then, I trust Ashby. I also trust Megill and Uribe for the most part, maybe Hall. 

[Brian]

1 hour ago, Bulldogboy said:

Joey Ortiz should not see a playoff roster imo. There are better utility infielder options out there who can chip in with the bat. 

Maybe, but ... you were the one last year that posted about 500 times we should get Eugenio Suarez. Thank God that didn't happen because he hit .189 in Seattle and .208 so far this season. You would blow up a team faster than the speed of light. 

I trust all but maybe about 5 players on this roster, 2-3 pitchers I do not trust 2-3 players I do not trust.  Ortiz has a great glove and that counts for a lot. He is doing better than Manny Machado. https://www.mlb.com/player/manny-machado-592518

[Turning2]

Probably need a baseline standard for what the definition of "trust" is. For me, and probably most posting on this somewhat obscure forum, it's not just a matter of are they getting hits or not. It's about having good, smart, emotionally disciplined ABs, making good contact on good pitches rather than swinging and flailing out of desperation. Also being able to lift a lazy fly ball when needed to push in a run or move up runners. 

And this doesn't just apply to the playoffs. It also applies to the lower pressure clutch situations in the regular season. When we need a hit these days, there are only a couple of guys I feel like are going to at least make solid contact. Those are the guys I named already. 

 

 

[Bulldogboy]

1 hour ago, Brian said:

Maybe, but ... you were the one last year that posted about 500 times we should get Eugenio Suarez. Thank God that didn't happen because he hit .189 in Seattle and .208 so far this season. You would blow up a team faster than the speed of light. 

I trust all but maybe about 5 players on this roster, 2-3 pitchers I do not trust 2-3 players I do not trust.  Ortiz has a great glove and that counts for a lot. He is doing better than Manny Machado. https://www.mlb.com/player/manny-machado-592518

Getting Suarez has nothing to do with this year. He was a rental. Would he have paid off? Who knows but Durbin was adequate. So by your own count you are up 6 you don't really trust which is about what I thought. I'm give or take 7-8. The mission is to get the number down to 2-3.

[Bulldogboy]

1 hour ago, Turning2 said:

For the bats, I only trust Contreras, Chourio and Vaughn not to shrivel like George Constanza coming out of the pool come playoff time. That's pretty pathetic. Too many hot or cold hitters in this lineup, and nobody that really inspires the rest when the going gets tough. 

Pitching, I trust the big 3 at the top of the rotation. If he's not completely overused by then, I trust Ashby. I also trust Megill and Uribe for the most part, maybe Hall. 

Agree maybe add Turang.