2018-10-15 (NLCS Game #3): Brewers (Chacín) at Dodgers (Buehler) 6:39 PM CDT [Brewers win, 4-0 -- Chacín w/ 5.1 IP, 3 Hits, 0 Runs, 6 Ks; Arcia Goes Deep Again]

[jjfanec]

Did people watch the rest of our bullpen in game 1 and 2? That move makes a ton of sense. Didn't allow baserunners for the heart of the order. Now those guys are coming up in the 9th with not a lot going on. This may not be a must win but it is pretty darn close.

[Ennder]

Puig also has reverse splits so you would rather a lefty face him. This seems like the most standard move ever. Get the road win, force the series back to Milwaukee and hope that he keeps his pitch count down enough he can pitch in game 5. Given the fact Soria and Knebel are already used and how terrible Jeffress has looked I really don't get who you want out there right now if its not Hader.

[tmwiese55]

I wonder what Coach Cooper would've done there? My guess is step on the other teams throat like CC did, so obviously I'm fine with it.

[dlk9s]

Tangent: I wish the GWRBI stat would come back. I used to like seeing it in the box score when I was a kid. Don't know why, probably because GWRBI looks funny and I was but a boy.

[tmwiese55]

Puig also has reverse splits so you would rather a lefty face him. This seems like the most standard move ever. Get the road win, force the series back to Milwaukee and hope that he keeps his pitch count down enough he can pitch in game 5.

 

Agree. I think everyone is overthinking this. Take your W. Sure you could've got creative, but often times the simplest solution is the best one.

[Eye Black]

We have to trust some of our other guys to allow less than 4 runs in 1 inning. Pull Hader, 8 pitches should round down to 0

[sarcasm]At this point I would trust Albers to finish this thing off.[/sarcasm]

 

In all seriousness, I would be fine with anyone but Hader pitching the 9th inning.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

I don't know how anyone can watch Walker Buehler get touched up for 4 runs with the stuff he had and think the Brewers can just roll anyone out there to lock this down.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Honestly, all this discussion about when Hader pitches/doesn't pitch...doesn't do the rest of this bullpen justice to how good they are. If Hader pitches the 9th they'd have literally everyone else available tomorrow while being up 2-1 - nothing at all wrong with that strategy.

 

Now that he got loose and is dealing, unless his spot in the order comes up or the Brewers score a few let him finish and step on their necks tonight.

[coolhandluke121]

Those righties really had an advantage against Hader.

 

He meant it would give the Brewers' RHP relievers a big advantage later on if Hader was in their first and LAD ph'ed for their LHB's earlier. If that's what you're referring to.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I absolutely hate this move. Absolutely despise it with every fiber of my being.

 

Which move?

 

Bringing Hader into this game.

[folly412]

Can someone just let me know how the series turns out, since it seems to be a foregone conclusion that we have a late lead both tomorrow and Wednesday in ideal situations for Hader to pitch?

[PinaMadness]

Did CC say who's starting tomorrow yet?

[BuckyBrewer61]

Hader will never pitch back to back games. There are two options here:

 

1) Let him pitch now to lock up this game, and be available for game 5.

 

2) Let someone else finish this game, then have Hader available for either game 4 OR 5. Not both.

 

There are reasonable arguments for each, I have zero problem with this.

[wildcat83]

I’m fine with Hader, and would be fine with Jeffress in the 9th. Get this win, nobody threw enough to be unavailable tomorrow. Even if Hader finishes it he’s back for game 5 and we have everyone else tomorrow.

[igor67]

Given the Dodgers almost tied game 1 I'm not sure how we didn't need to use him in Game 1. Basically the entire bullpen is available tomorrow, so you have a ton of options to try and prevent big innings without Hader. Perhaps the crazier thing is how close this series is to the Brewers being up 3-0

[jjfanec]

These announcers can't get over cc using hader but didn't second guess leaving buehler in at all.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Hader will never pitch back to back games. There are two options here:

 

1) Let him pitch now to lock up this game, and be available for game 5.

 

2) Let someone else finish this game, then have Hader available for either game 4 OR 5. Not both.

 

There are reasonable arguments for each, I have zero problem with this.

 

Hader has pitched back to back numerous times this year. It simply isn't true that he can't do it. It may not be the preference, but he has, and I imagine he will this postseason if it is needed and Day 1 is light work.

[CheezWizHed]

Can someone just let me know how the series turns out, since it seems to be a foregone conclusion that we have a late lead both tomorrow and Wednesday in ideal situations for Hader to pitch?

 

Brewers win World Series. Woodruff hits 2 HR and wins MVP

[burnzy24]

Did CC say who's starting tomorrow yet?

 

No but speculation is Gio on short rest.

[homer]

Regardless of what Counsell did there he was going to be second guessed.

[wildcat83]

Hader will never pitch back to back games. There are two options here:

 

1) Let him pitch now to lock up this game, and be available for game 5.

 

2) Let someone else finish this game, then have Hader available for either game 4 OR 5. Not both.

 

There are reasonable arguments for each, I have zero problem with this.

 

Hader has pitched back to back and will again in the playoffs if needed.

[coolhandluke121]

Puig also has reverse splits so you would rather a lefty face him.

 

Good point, although Puig is not gonna hit unless someone gets on base. But yeah, with just 8 pitches in the 8th, this is Hader's close unless the Brewers score more here.

[jerichoholicninja]

Those righties really had an advantage against Hader.

 

He meant it would give the Brewers' RHP relievers a big advantage later on if Hader was in their first and LAD ph'ed for their LHB's earlier. If that's what you're referring to.

 

That was to whoever said that he struggles against RHB or something like that.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

These announcers can't get over cc using hader but didn't second guess leaving buehler in at all.

 

Stuck in the past.

[nodakfan17]

Did CC say who's starting tomorrow yet?

I thought I heard Miley on my local news report.