2022 MLB Draft Pick Discussion, Rounds 1-10

[sveumrules]

4 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Believe catcher Cade Hunter (#40) and C/1B Malcolm Moore (#41) are still on the board.

Needed to keep going just a lil bit more, FG had Robert Moore at #44.

[Platoon Power]

It's hard to be excited about a guy with 45 grade hit, power, speed and arm.  The guy hit .232 this last year but had almost as many walks as strike outs.  He hit better as a sophomore so I'm not completely against it.  Being a switch hitter is a nice bonus.  I'm intrigued by the glove too.  

[Austin Tatious]

I am not going to pretend to be an expert on these guys but I really like both picks.  I think there’s legit upside.  

Brown looks like an electric athlete with a rocket arm at short and a very good hit tool.  Potential for some pop too.  The comp to Counsell seems exceptionally lazy.  No shot at CC who had a distinguished career but other than both playing shortstop and holding the bat high, they are pretty different types of players. 

With Misiorowski, the Brewers are taking advantage of that JC market inefficiency.  Kid has upside and is reminiscent of Kelly. Rocket arm.

I am happy with an IF with a good hit tool and a projectable pitcher with a power arm.

 

[brewmann04]

Not crazy about this pick Two guys drafted as Ss who possible best spot is Second base 

[sveumrules]

Moore is also the son of Royals GM Dayton Moore, so he has that Championship DNA.

Guess that means he also has that 3rd fewest wins in MLB since being hired DNA.

[CheeseheadInQC]

2 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Needed to keep going just a lil bit more, FG had Robert Moore at #44.

Yep, they like him. Fangraphs couldn't come up with anything, but I'm curious if any of the other sites offer anything on how he dropped 50 points of batting average while improving his strikeout rate. Worse contact or just really unlucky? If it is the former, it is concerning. If it is the latter, the Brewers might have gotten good value.

[Harold Hutchison]

1 hour ago, Smichaelis9 said:

I'm just super confused by some of you. He didn't have good production? He had an OPS over 1.000... He hit against the Power 5 competition he saw. He has pop, hasn't shown up in game a ton, but it's there. Exit velo's up to 113, consistently over 95. 

 

People complain about Brewers whiffing and chasing, this guy never does, but puts barrels on balls too. He can stick at short defensively and be a top of the order threat.

I really like this pick. The Brewers have been having some real problems getting people on base and getting base hits with runners in scoring position.

Some of that is skills that can be honed, and the fact the system isn't honing these skills is really bothersome. This guy is a natural at it, and I'm REALLY in love with the  OBP skills - more walks than strikeouts...

[Harold Hutchison]

37 minutes ago, wildcat83 said:

6-7 RHP who hits 100 is interesting, sounds like a project.  Same college as Ashby.

Floor? A right-handed Josh Hader.

[Oxy]

27 minutes ago, clancyphile said:

Floor? A right-handed Josh Hader.

lol

[KeithStone53151]

1 hour ago, clancyphile said:

Floor? A right-handed Josh Hader.

The floor for any player drafted today is, flames out in a ball. I would bet over half the players drafted today never play in aa. The draft is a crap shoot. If one of these players is an above average starter, we did well today.

[Harold Hutchison]

2 hours ago, Austin Tatious said:

I am not going to pretend to be an expert on these guys but I really like both picks.  I think there’s legit upside.  

Brown looks like an electric athlete with a rocket arm at short and a very good hit tool.  Potential for some pop too.  The comp to Counsell seems exceptionally lazy.  No shot at CC who had a distinguished career but other than both playing shortstop and holding the bat high, they are pretty different types of players. 

With Misiorowski, the Brewers are taking advantage of that JC market inefficiency.  Kid has upside and is reminiscent of Kelly. Rocket arm.

I am happy with an IF with a good hit tool and a projectable pitcher with a power arm.

 

Put it this way... high-contact, low K rate, sneaky power, can steal bases, comes up at SS.

I'll date myself, but Brown's profile looks eerily not like Counsell, but The Ignitor.

[Robocaller]

What's amazing about this thread is that the hot takes exceed even the game threads, in spite of none of us knowing for years how this will all sort out.

 

[Robocaller]

4 hours ago, clancyphile said:

Floor? A right-handed Josh Hader.

experience suggests you don't know what "floor" means regarding a prospect.

[Robocaller]

4 hours ago, sveumrules said:

Moore is also the son of Royals GM Dayton Moore, so he has that Championship DNA.

Guess that means he also has that 3rd fewest wins in MLB since being hired DNA.

So I guess we're trading him to KC to get a player at the trade deadline next year.

 

[ClosetBrewerFan]

6 hours ago, sveumrules said:

Moore is also the son of Royals GM Dayton Moore, so he has that Championship DNA.

Guess that means he also has that 3rd fewest wins in MLB since being hired DNA.

Floor?  Midwest regional scout?

[ClosetBrewerFan]

Interesting tidbit by Eric Longenhagen in Fan Graphs draft chat"

Quote

 

Old prospector: Where would Jackson Chourio be drafted if eligible?

Eric A Longenhagen: great question and probably worth thinking about when you’re trying to triangulate his FV. probably top 10

Eric A Longenhagen: Just had a scout who’s in chat tell me Chourio goes 1-1

 

 

There is a lot of helium for Chourio right now.  I hope its accurate.  The Brewers could use a star player.

[Never Outhustled]

8 hours ago, Eye Black said:

That's well said. The biggest concern I would have is if he does indeed need a swing overhaul that hasn't exactly proven to be a strength of the Brewers organization. If you're disappointed that's absolutely fine, but please keep it within the perspective that there literally wasn't a player left on the board at #27 that you couldn't pick apart. 

Max Wagner. Dominant hitter with a beautiful swing. He's off the board now, but in time we'll realize he should have went top 10.

[brewers888]

Very happy with the pitcher but the two middle infielders with utility infielder as their best case scenario is underwhelming to say the least.

[brewers888]

This team just loves drafting punchless middle infielders. 

[Never Outhustled]

Misiorowski is ultra exciting. I wouldn't be excited for Moore in the 10th round.

[Lathund]

I didn't follow the draft last night, but checked it out this morning. And once I saw that the Brewers didn't draft someone who was unathletic enough to only be able to play 1B/DH already at the age of 18-21, I knew exactly what this thread would look like. And I wasn't disappointed. Or I mean, I was disappointed, but I got what I expected. 

As for the draft itself, I don't follow College/HS baseball at all so hard to comment on the individual picks really. But I like that the Brewers are targetting hitters with good swing/take decisions (Tyler Black from last year is another great example), as that's both a skill that projects well and is less coachable or likely to grow significantly over time compared to something like HR power.

As for the inevitable "Up the middle vs corner" debate every year: Most drafted players are SS/CF/C as that's where the best athletes end up on College and (especially) HS teams. So the 1B types are usually there because they aren't very good athletes, which limits their upside a ton, they're already 2-tool players without any versatility, and need those tools to translate fully to not be busts. Sometimes though, they're just such good hitters that those downsides don't matter. Thing is though, when someone is a "sure thing" like that, they end up 1st overall like Spencer Torkelson or 3rd like Andrew Vaughn to take a couple recent examples. They're a very different proposition from the 3B/1B/DH types available later on. 

It's like the logic is backwards; the best hitting positions on a MLB team tends to be the corner spots and DH. Therefore, some people want to draft corner guys to get better hitters. But that's not how it works. 

8 hours ago, Ulice Payne said:

Agreed.  Some of these folks have to be trolling.  There's just no way someone disagrees with absolutely everything; is there?  haha

Sadly, there are a few poster like that, disagreeing with every move the team makes and pining for the Doug Melvin days. They'd take issue with Stearns if he said the sky was blue and water is wet. And, tellingly, their issue wouldn't even be that technically the sky isn't blue (It's purple, we just see it as blue) and water isn't wet (It makes other things wet), that's not surface level enough for them, but it'd be the need to reflexively disagree with everything. 

The last several years, with 4 straight playoff appearances, has been the most successful stretch for this team in almost 40 years (Or ever), and yet somehow that has come about despite every move Stearns makes being the wrong one and Counsell being genetically incapable of not starting every light-hitting utility player on his roster because they remind him of himself, and also his inability to view Keston Hiura's splits on baseball reference. I admire the tenacity of these posters, if not the lacking self-reflection, to be wrong for years and still persist in thinking you're absolutely right. 

And no, it doesn't mean you have to automatically love every single move the team makes, even the best front offices don't bat 1.000, far from it. But can we just discuss things from the perspective that Stearns and the rest of the front office aren't morons, that they have a reason for doing what they're doing, and data to back that up? That doesn't mean they'll make the right decision still, but more that trying to spot the logic behind, say, signing Wade Miley makes for a more productive debate than just citing his last-season poor ERA and calling Stearns a moron for not knowing that stat, or for not realising that a high ERA is bad.

Which brings me to my last point. Which relates to the crapshoot nature of the draft, or even the randomness and uncertainty involved in decisions at the MLB level. And therefore, some humility. None of us know how any of the guys drafted beyond the first few picks (And not really them either, even if we can be more certain) will turn out, we all make guesses. Some qualified, some less so, but all of them uncertain. When dealing with such uncertainty, only a fool is certain. So I'd take any definitive statements on any draft picks future with a truckload of salt, same for the people making those statements. 

[JackNicholson1974]

Hey Mods. If you want to keep this forum the top quality it has proven to be, you may want to be proactive and do something about the same 2-3 posters who are in every single thread filling up 9 pages of pessimism over and over again.  And pessimism is really an understatement.  I’m all for being skeptical from time to time, but this thread just takes the cake.  I just wanted some honest knowledgeable recaps of the picks and instead I had to endure hot garbage from a couple of guys. I am sure there will be 10 more pages of it today as well. Is there a block button?  Thanks.

[MVP2110]

2 minutes ago, JackNicholson1974 said:

Hey Mods. If you want to keep this forum the top quality it has proven to be, you may want to be proactive and do something about the same 2-3 posters who are in every single thread filling up 9 pages of pessimism over and over again.  And pessimism is really an understatement.  I’m all for being skeptical from time to time, but this thread just takes the cake.  I just wanted some honest knowledgeable recaps of the picks and instead I had to endure hot garbage from a couple of guys. I am sure there will be 10 more pages of it today as well. Is there a block button?  Thanks.

100% agreed. It's one thing to have a negative viewpoint, it's another to make the same post 5 or 6 times per page filling up the entire thread with the same exact discourse every single time. I would love to have a genuine discussion about the draft picks flaws and potential instead of having to read through the same exact complaint over and over again

[KeithStone53151]

1 hour ago, brewers888 said:

Very happy with the pitcher but the two middle infielders with utility infielder as their best case scenario is underwhelming to say the least.

Crazy notion, the brewers help these players add power to their game. It's not often you get a 5 tool player at pick 27, but you can certainly help players develop and improve

[homer]

12 minutes ago, KeithStone53151 said:

Crazy notion, the brewers help these players add power to their game. It's not often you get a 5 tool player at pick 27, but you can certainly help players develop and improve

I think that's what the Dodgers theory is. Draft for hard contact and assume the power will come later.