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22 minutes ago, Jenkins5 said:

For UDFA, I saw that HS 2B Jadyn Fielder (oldest son of Prince) had posted a pic on Instagram Story of a Brewer Arizona Complex Locker with a Fielder #54 jersey hanging in it. Haven’t seen anything official yet but be an interesting signing. 

Ohhh.....wouldn't that be something!  Anyone have any info on Jadyn?  Did he have a college commitment somewhere that we may have lured him away from?  

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11 minutes ago, Madhawk23 said:

Ohhh.....wouldn't that be something!  Anyone have any info on Jadyn?  Did he have a college commitment somewhere that we may have lured him away from?  

He's almost 20 years old already, will be next month I believe. Committed to North Florida. Swing looks solid and he was posting triple digit exit velo's off BP in 2023, but appears he struggled against good competition in the travel circuit. Would be a fun flier to take, for sure though.

 

 

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9 hours ago, CheeseheadInQC said:

Roughly the same as Morlando, a bit less than Caminiti.

I was thinking Caminiti would go well over slot. I wonder if the Brewers just didn't have as highly an opinion? 

But, we got some really nice HS arms in Rd2 and a couple of nice College bats and a young 17-year-old...

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4 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

I was thinking Caminiti would go well over slot. I wonder if the Brewers just didn't have as highly an opinion? 

But, we got some really nice HS arms in Rd2 and a couple of nice College bats and a young 17-year-old...

Man that is unfortunate I know HS arms come with a ton of risk but I loved Caminiti and Sloan. Draft would have been A+ for me. I'm not the highest on Payne hopefully he can prove me wrong. Run tools just don't move me as much as it used to and that swing needs a lot of adjustment IMO. For what he signed for feel like there was some more value available.  

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3 hours ago, MilwaukeeBeers said:

Man that is unfortunate I know HS arms come with a ton of risk but I loved Caminiti and Sloan. Draft would have been A+ for me. I'm not the highest on Payne hopefully he can prove me wrong. Run tools just don't move me as much as it used to and that swing needs a lot of adjustment IMO. For what he signed for feel like there was some more value available.  

Sloan appears to have demanded $3m which would be way over slot for his pick, first round value and the Brewers must have believed the a combo of Levonas or Meccage plus another $1m for later rounds like Broughton was more valuable than Sloan on his own especially given the volatility of HS arms

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The Brewers have $2,341,620 left to go over slot with. I can see large bonuses for Meccage and Levonas but at this point I think there's going to be comfortably over $1m of bonus pool money available to spread around day 3 picks

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14 minutes ago, Jake McKibbin said:

The Brewers have $2,341,620 left to go over slot with. I can see large bonuses for Meccage and Levonas but at this point I think there's going to be comfortably over $1m of bonus pool money available to spread around day 3 picks

The 3rd round senior pick with a $788k slot is gonna be what makes or breaks the 11-20 rounds. Could be huge savings there….

That being said, the last time I got excited about big senior savings was our 2021 2nd rounder Russ Smith. He signed for $1M on a $1.44M slot (but an extra Covid year may have been in play there).

Those 11-20 high schoolers in 2021 were draft eligible this year. One went in the 2nd round, and another went in the 4th.

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8 hours ago, Jake McKibbin said:

Sloan appears to have demanded $3m which would be way over slot for his pick, first round value and the Brewers must have believed the a combo of Levonas or Meccage plus another $1m for later rounds like Broughton was more valuable than Sloan on his own especially given the volatility of HS arms

I suspect that this is similar to the approach they take to international signings. Rather than sinking all their funds into a Gilbert Lara boom or bust type, they distribute the risk among several second tier players and hope that one of them turns into Jackson Chourio. Given the volatility of both HS pitching and 16 year old free agents, these seem like wise choices. (it's bites at the apple, all the way down)

That said, as much promise as there is in this approach, the HS pitcher demographic still carries a lot of risk and there's a significant chance that we look back at these picks the way we presently look at, say, Jake Gatewood and Kodi Medeiros from 2014. Presumably they felt that the industry has moved too far and the expectation value of these risky picks is better than other teams recognize.

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Dasan Hill getting $2 million is right about in line of where we would think the top 2 high school pitchers for the Brewers will get.  Going forward, I could see the Brewers doing what they did for Payne every year - finding their top rated player that they can get signed for 75% of their top pick's value and signing them up. (that is if the vast majority of combine participants do the physical)

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My dream scenario. Throw big money at 14th and 15th rounders, $1M is tough to turn down. No idea what to do with the 3rd rounder. He could get $500k, he could get $10k. Kind of split the difference there.

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Just listened to latest MLB Pipeline podcast. They’re hearing rumors that Levonas has huge asking price and may decide to go to Wake. Say it ain’t so!!!

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1 hour ago, Madhawk23 said:

Just listened to latest MLB Pipeline podcast. They’re hearing rumors that Levonas has huge asking price and may decide to go to Wake. Say it ain’t so!!!

That would be a shocking miss by the draft team. I still would be very surprised if he doesn't sign.

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Dorchies and Tobias both signed as well. Combined $39K over slot between the two high schoolers.

That leaves things looking like this.


Scenario where Levonas signs they have $6,313,720 to sign Meccage, Levonas, DeBerry and round 11-20 picks over $150K.

Scenario where Levonas does not sign they have $5,025,580 to sign Meccage, DeBerry and round 11-20 picks over $150K.

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I've got them at about $2.15MM under slot with 2/2C/3/9 remaining in the top 10 and 12 signed.

 

Seems pretty good to me.

 

If they lose Levonas that hurts.

 

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5 minutes ago, StearnsFTW said:

I've got them at about $2.15MM under slot with 2/2C/3/9 remaining in the top 10 and 12 signed.

 

Seems pretty good to me.

 

If they lose Levonas that hurts.

Griffin Tobias signed for $247,500 so only $56,600 over slot.

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9 hours ago, SoCalBrewfan said:

I suspect that this is similar to the approach they take to international signings. Rather than sinking all their funds into a Gilbert Lara boom or bust type, they distribute the risk among several second tier players and hope that one of them turns into Jackson Chourio. Given the volatility of both HS pitching and 16 year old free agents, these seem like wise choices. (it's bites at the apple, all the way down)

That said, as much promise as there is in this approach, the HS pitcher demographic still carries a lot of risk and there's a significant chance that we look back at these picks the way we presently look at, say, Jake Gatewood and Kodi Medeiros from 2014. Presumably they felt that the industry has moved too far and the expectation value of these risky picks is better than other teams recognize.

Yes, that's clearly their overall approach, but even with the LA players, they still will spend more on a guy they really like. 

Prep arms are much more hit and miss(probably less than LA players)...but it's also where you tend to get the best pitchers in Baseball. They're usually HS arms or they're early 1st rd picks. Always outliers like Woody and Burnes, but generally speaking.

I'm sure if we'd drated Caminiti, we'd be paying him slot. Not much reason to think he'd go under slot and I have a feeling, substantiated by absolutely nothing, but just a feeling he wanted to go to certain teams. ATL, LAD, SD. You'd think his Uncle would be advising in some capacity. I just think you could go with more bites at the apple, but you're always still taking a bigger bite from time to time.

 

21 hours ago, MilwaukeeBeers said:

Man that is unfortunate I know HS arms come with a ton of risk but I loved Caminiti and Sloan. Draft would have been A+ for me. I'm not the highest on Payne hopefully he can prove me wrong. Run tools just don't move me as much as it used to and that swing needs a lot of adjustment IMO. For what he signed for feel like there was some more value available.  

Sure...as we view it today, it definitely is. But...obviously we don't really know much about Payne. I think if we sign him in Rd 2, people are likely very excited about it.

I do trust the Brewers and it's not really just speed with him. The grade on his glove and then power potential are there as well. 


I wanted a HS arm or the kid from Iowa...but I also know...what I don't know! What I do know is the Brewers know what they're doing...ya know? 

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