2025 NFL Draft Discussion

[jay87shot]

I know it is a bit early but I love me some draft.

Here are some of my favorite prospects not necessarily all 1st rounders.

C Parker Brailsford Alabama, love the heart and athleticism even if he is really small

DT Deone Walker Kentucky, A giant who had 7.5 sacks last year, a couple this year I believe

CB Tacario Davis Arizona, 6'4" 20 year old corner, only 1 pick but his combine will tell alot

WR Tai Felton Maryland, Destroying it at Maryland this year, Maryland has a sneaky great track record with receivers.

WR Jayden Higgins Iowa St., another big guy who is producing, combine will determine alot

WR Will Sheppherd Colorado, I think the Buffalo's will over feed Hunter and Sheppherd will get overlooked solid across the board.

OLB Jalon Carter Georgia, Probably skyrocketing up boards from a 2-4 rounder to 1-2 round territory after the huge game against Texas but extremely skilled

I can't say I have watched a ton of college at this point or looked at a ton of the prospects so let me know who else is of interest.

[Joseph Zarr]

I have already booked a condo in Door County the week of the Draft. My first time back in the state of 'Sconny since 2009. I could not pass on the opportunity to experience the NF of L Draft in Titletown. Gotta go for the full experience. 

[BrewerFan]

On 10/21/2024 at 9:54 PM, jay87shot said:

I know it is a bit early but I love me some draft.

Here are some of my favorite prospects not necessarily all 1st rounders.

C Parker Brailsford Alabama, love the heart and athleticism even if he is really small

DT Deone Walker Kentucky, A giant who had 7.5 sacks last year, a couple this year I believe

CB Tacario Davis Arizona, 6'4" 20 year old corner, only 1 pick but his combine will tell alot

WR Tai Felton Maryland, Destroying it at Maryland this year, Maryland has a sneaky great track record with receivers.

WR Jayden Higgins Iowa St., another big guy who is producing, combine will determine alot

WR Will Sheppherd Colorado, I think the Buffalo's will over feed Hunter and Sheppherd will get overlooked solid across the board.

OLB Jalon Carter Georgia, Probably skyrocketing up boards from a 2-4 rounder to 1-2 round territory after the huge game against Texas but extremely skilled

I can't say I have watched a ton of college at this point or looked at a ton of the prospects so let me know who else is of interest.

Walker or Kenneth Grant are two guys who could be in play. Walker is a monster and a freak who I think will climb up boards(along with Grant). But I'd like either. 

Carter isn't really a fit anymore. Even in the 3-4, he didn't fit the Packers profile, but as a DE at 6-2 245? I guess if Hafley thought he could play off-ball and then on 3rd down rush the passer...maybe late in Rd 2? 

Or maybe they're willing to sacrifice the 3 down edge for a guy who's a little more explosive?

Mykel Williams from UGA is more likely. 6'5 265 and he's more fluid.
LT Overton from 'Bama. A lot of similarities to Rashan Gary...who I still think is going to have a big 2nd half. 

Tacario Davis-I don't care about picks as much at CB, just stay in position. I just don't know if he's more of a C2 corner or a long Press Man, but he's pretty physical and gets his head around and looks like he'll at least be in the 4.5 range. 

Jonah Monheim would be the Center I think is the most likely. 6'5 310, but he's so versatile. He can play in a ZBS. He's played OT, OG and now is starting at Center. I think watching the Packers they're running less zone blocking and more gap schemes. 

Shavon Revel- 6'3 CB from East Carolina has some Kevin King like physical abilities(which is a plus, King's athleticism wasn't his problem). 

I think you can mostly write off WR early. Watson and Doubs are the two who are a year away and then Reed, Wicks, Melton, Heath...feels like I'm missing someone, they've got two years left. So unlikely they draft one there. 

I think DL makes a LOT of sense. Walker could be a top 5-10 pick based on physical ability. But by that same measure. Albert Haynesworth could have been a all-time great DT. I don't know if Walker has any work ethic issues, but he's so dominant at times, I would have to think he'd possibly go early. 

CB-Also makes a lot of sense. I liked Jordan Morgan. I had him and Tyler Guyton as two guys I was hoping they'd pick...but I think if Mitchell or Cooper had fallen one more spot, either one would be playing CB in GB right now and we'd have a long term starter. With how much we stress that position, it just makes sense to go get a long, athletic press man corner early. 

OL-The Ron Wolf theory. Always try to upgrade. Myers is in a walk year. Rhyan has actually played pretty well. 
Walker is not all that impressive. Morgan has been injured and his future could be at LT or OG. If there's a OT in the 1st, I could see them going back there, especially if they want to move Tom at some point(he'll get paid this off-season and likely something like 5/110 or 4/88) so he's not going to lose money to play another position. 

LT-Josh Simmons OSU
He may end up falling to the 2nd. He'd be a really interesting pick. He looked really good before the knee injury. Torn ACL could keep him out of Rd1, but make him a good target in Rd 2. I'm skeptical with Walker's injury history the Packers will pay him(eligible after this season). Again, back to back years at OL, but if you're getting positional versatility, who cares?

 

Another CB makes the secondary look REALLY good. 
DL has been an issue all year and is so expensive to address via trade/free agency and they could definitely grab a WR, but the value would really have to be there. 
 

 

A couple luxury picks, Tyler Warren Penn State. I'd LOVE a 3TE set with Musgrave, Kraft and Warren. Also saves Kraft and Musgrave just isn't that physical inline TE. 
Jihaad Campbell-MLB Alabama
I don't think the Packers will use a 1st or 2nd on another LB, but he's an athletic, 3 down LB who'd add something at the point. 

 

The one guy I'm really hoping is there in Rd1 is Kenneth Grant. Even if you have to give up a bit to move up, he'd be worth it. I think he's a similar prospect to Kenny Clark, but a bigger body, probably more natural as a pass rusher than Clark as a rookie.

[HarryDoyle]

Two observations:

1. The Panthers are a better team than the Giants.

2. The Giants will win the game anyway.

[HarryDoyle]

I think the clock is about to strike midnight on the Bears, and possibly the Vikings.

[SeaBass]

If Jacksonville had anything approaching competence running their offense they could win this game but the Vikings are probably going to safely win as long as they can stop turning the ball over.

[jay87shot]

Does anyone have good insight on Derrick Harmon from Oregon? He seems like a potential upside replacement for Kenny Clark if we lose him but can't say I've seen much other than a highlight clip. 

Any WR stick out as go to threats where we would be drafting, I could see us parting with Romeo this offseason after his issues. I like our WR corp but it would be really nice to have that 1 go to guy when the going gets tough. I like Tai Felton a lot but don't know much about him other than a half or so I watched Maryland this year. I am not a huge fan of any of the free agents, at least not paying 20+ million for them.

 

[nate82]

34 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

Does anyone have good insight on Derrick Harmon from Oregon? He seems like a potential upside replacement for Kenny Clark if we lose him but can't say I've seen much other than a highlight clip. 

He is a good DT but he will need to improve on his pad level.  It will probably take 2-3 seasons before you see any return on him.  He is very similar to Keanu Benton and a better version of Gervon Dexter coming out of college in terms of pass rushing but he is worse at tackling.  Tackling and his pad level are his biggest concerns.  Though he is probably a late to mid first round selection or an early second round depending on how he performs at the combine.

[LouisEly]

On 10/22/2024 at 1:01 AM, Joseph Zarr said:

I have already booked a condo in Door County the week of the Draft. My first time back in the state of 'Sconny since 2009. I could not pass on the opportunity to experience the NF of L Draft in Titletown. Gotta go for the full experience. 

 

There are expectations to be lived up to around here...

 

[HarryDoyle]

I didn't think I'd be posting on this thread so early, but it occurs to me that we really need to reassess our receiving corps. It was a great story last year when down the stretch everyone was contributing to the point where it was almost impossible to defend against the passing game. This year though, the position has regressed. Reed has practically disappeared in the second half unless you want to count jet sweeps. Wicks, Melton and Heath are just guys right now, and Watson can't stay healthy. Doubs has been somewhat steady but he's no legitimate #1. I believe I saw somewhere that they lead the league in drops. Gute really needs to find a legit #1 in the offseason, whether by draft, free agency or trade. I wouldn't be against bringing Adams back. Take a look at the NFC playoff field as of now. With the exception of Washington, every single team has at least, at least, two receivers on their team that are better than anyone the Packers have. (I'm counting Godwin in Tampa even though he's been out for half the season. Not sure on his status for the playoffs.)

[JosephC]

Even if the receivers were playing great, it would still be a priority because after 2025 both Doubs and Watson are free agents.

They raised some eyebrows this last draft when they took Monk who pretty much projected as a pure center.  From what I hear, Myers is nothing special...I think the Packers were already thinking they were parting way with Myers after 2024 and wanted to have a guy they liked already in the pipeline,

Packer unrestricted free agents after 2026 that have played over 30% of the snaps in 2024 (at least according to overthecap, so if this info is wrong, blame them not me)-

OT - Rasheed Walker (99.1%)

OT - Zach Tom (98.5%)

LB - Quay Walker (78.2%) *

WR - Romeo Doubs (63.4%)

WR - Christian Walker (57.0%)

EDGE - Kingsley Enagbare (45.5%)

LS - Matt Orzech (33.8%)

IDL - Devonte Wyatt (33.4%) *

I'm assuming, as first round picks, the Packers have the option for an additional year on Walker and Wyatt.

[CheezWizHed]

Yeah, I was just thinking about the narrative of "we don't need a #1 WR" and how that has played out this year.  I'm scratching my head on what happened to Reed this year.  He's been a ghost. Doubs is a good possession receiver but mostly a good #2. Watson made some nice strides this year and has become more than the deep threat, but injuries stall his progress. Wicks has some upside, but he hasn't made any moves toward improving this year at all.  I've actually started wondering if we need a better WR coach or a WR vet to help teach the kids.  Perhaps Davante would help in that role. 

Other team needs:

• CB: Probably only Valentine and Nixon survive this year.  Alexander is trending badly and Stokes will probably look elsewhere. This might be a FA target, however. Or a FA/Draft double dip?
• C: Myers is probably gone and Monk hasn't been active at all.  
• DE: This needs to be a FA.  I can't imagine another #1 draft pick here. So much draft capitol wasted. 
• DT: Clark has been better with his toe healed. Wyatt has been good at pass rush, but not run. Slaton has been ok against the run, but nothing otherwise. Brooks has flashes, but isn't a complete player.  Wooden is JAG.  Solid depth, but no playmakers here at all. 
• T: Depends on Morgan. Is he a G/T or just a G? Need some depth here. Probably another G/T in the 4th round. 

Gutekunst gets flack for having draft errors (especially DEs in the 1st round).  While that is true, there isn't anyone with a perfect draft record either.  Where he has done better than TT is that he covers his draft errors with smart FA pickups.  I'd expect to see two FAs at the CB, DE, or perhaps C positions.  

[LouisEly]

15 hours ago, JosephC said:

They raised some eyebrows this last draft when they took Monk who pretty much projected as a pure center.  From what I hear, Myers is nothing special...I think the Packers were already thinking they were parting way with Myers after 2024 and wanted to have a guy they liked already in the pipeline,

Not really true.  They think highly of Myers, especially Love, because of how good he is at making the line calls for blocking.  There's a reason that they have consistently been at the top of the league in lowest sack percentage and Myers is a big part of it.  That's something that we as fans can't really see.

The Monk pick was certainly a hedge against Myers leaving in FA, but also a hedge for their backup centers.  Jenkins is getting expensive for a guard, and Tom is a free agent in two years and will get really expensive.  With both starting tackles coming up on free agency, they can't afford to pay a guard what they are paying Jenkins and Tom might leave in FA. 

[homer]

Tom is arguably a top 5 tackle. I'd be shocked if they don't extend him.

[LouisEly]

2 minutes ago, homer said:

Tom is arguably a top 5 tackle. I'd be shocked if they don't extend him.

Can they afford both Tom and Walker?  If push comes to shove, easier to find a good RT than a good LT.

[homer]

15 hours ago, LouisEly said:

Can they afford both Tom and Walker?  If push comes to shove, easier to find a good RT than a good LT.

I am guessing that may depend on how Morgan progresses and if they see him as a tackle or a guard.

[yourout]

19 hours ago, homer said:

Tom is arguably a top 5 tackle. I'd be shocked if they don't extend him.

Yes he needs to be a priority.

[CheezWizHed]

I don't seek Walker being nearly as expensive as Tom.  If Walker did leave, moving Tom to LT should be an obvious move. 

[Joseph Zarr]

Just booked my flights and rental car. It is real. I will be in and around Green Bay, Wisconsin for the entire draft experience. Are any of you going to be partaking? I have not stepped foot in the upper Midwest since I left for many many farming tours back in early 2008. This is going to be surreal!

[OldHeidelberg]

On 1/2/2025 at 2:35 PM, CheezWizHed said:

I don't seek Walker being nearly as expensive as Tom.  If Walker did leave, moving Tom to LT should be an obvious move. 

I think Walker would get top money in FA and the Packers place a high value on pass blocking LT’s. I expect they will try to extend both but I don’t know what the brass thinks of Morgan.

[CheezWizHed]

4 hours ago, OldHeidelberg said:

I think Walker would get top money in FA and the Packers place a high value on pass blocking LT’s. I expect they will try to extend both but I don’t know what the brass thinks of Morgan.

I expect they will too, but Walker is mostly average at LT.  If he wants to be paid a premium, you pay Tom first.

[LouisEly]

1 hour ago, CheezWizHed said:

I expect they will too, but Walker is mostly average at LT.  If he wants to be paid a premium, you pay Tom first.

1) Genuine question - if Tom is better than Walker, why is Tom playing RT and Walker LT?

B) I'll argue that an average LT is harder to find than a good RT.

[CheezWizHed]

28 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

1) Genuine question - if Tom is better than Walker, why is Tom playing RT and Walker LT?

B) I'll argue that an average LT is harder to find than a good RT.

1) Because Walker got himself established at LT before Tom was ready.  I doubt they wanted to risk messing things up by swapping them when they were doing fine. 

B) Agreed.  However, Tom is a great RT, and I don't see any reason he wouldn't continue at LT. 

4) Are you saying you'd rather pay Walker than Tom if you had to choose one?

[young guns]

Now that the 2024 NFL season is officially over I set my sights on the draft.  I believe we pick 24 if Washington and Minnesota win, 23 if one of them loses, or 22 if both lose?

[LouisEly]

Way too early, don't hold me to this in any way (but I'll take credit for it if I hit on any):

1st: Trey Amos, CB, Ole Miss (replaces Alexander)
2nd: Tre Harris, WR, Ole Miss (assuming Watson is not back or still injured)
3rd: Seth McLaughlin, C, Ohio State (assuming Myers is not back or injured)
4th: O'Donnell Fortune, CB, South Carolina (replaces Stokes/Ballentine)
5th: Jack Nelson, OT, Wisconsin (replaces Dillard/upgrades Telfort)
6th: Darius Alexander, DT, Toledo (assuming Slaton is not back)
7th: Joshua Gray, OG, Oregon State (competes with Glover/Telfort)
7th (comp): Teddye Buchanan, LB, Cal (assuming at least one of Wilson/McDuffie is not back)