Packers 2025 regular season

[adambr2]

Today at work, the most random thought popped into my head:

“how in the world, in a situation where all we needed to do was funnel all the action to the interior of the field of play and protect the end zone and sidelines, did we end up in Cover 1 with Kevin King alone on an island?”

[Fear The Chorizo]

58 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Truth in some of this, but other parts of it is revisionist history. It wasn’t just getting nicked up and then getting healthy late. We lost a massive number of players to IR, I believe it was 15, and at that time in the NFL, IR meant you were done for the season. And some of those were massive losses, they weren’t just role players.

Jermichael Finley was right on par with losing Kraft.

Ryan Grant was a massive loss, he had almost 1500 yards for us in 2009.

Tauscher- huge loss.

Nick Barnett - huge loss. 

These are the biggest examples, but not the only ones.

I think the 2010 team had a ton more depth/talent than what this version of the Packers has.  

Starks came on late to give them enough running the ball with a prime Rodgers still having Nelson, Jennings, Jones, and Driver to throw to.  The Oline missed Tausch, but still had Sitton, Wells, Clifton, Bulaga, Lang, and Colledge as a primary backup.  Raji/Cullen Jenkins, Prime Clay with Hawk and Bishop in the middle, and a secondary with Tramon, Woodson, Collins, Bigby, and Sam Shields was dynamic.

I'll give you Finley getting knocked out as comparable to Kraft - but would that team have gone all the way if Nelson missed the 1st half the year while Jennings missed most of meat of the season (similar to Watson/Reed), Sitton and Wells going down while Clifton or Bulaga fought knee issues late in the year, Raji and Clay blowing out knees in late November/early December?  No chance.

[homer]

54 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Truth in some of this, but other parts of it is revisionist history. It wasn’t just getting nicked up and then getting healthy late. We lost a massive number of players to IR, I believe it was 15, and at that time in the NFL, IR meant you were done for the season. And some of those were massive losses, they weren’t just role players.

Jermichael Finley was right on par with losing Kraft.

Ryan Grant was a massive loss, he had almost 1500 yards for us in 2009.

Tauscher- huge loss.

Nick Barnett - huge loss. 

These are the biggest examples, but not the only ones.

Roster construction is different from 15 years ago. The offense is different from 15 years ago. The NFL as a whole is different.

This season, the offense was junk with Kraft but minus Watson and Reed. GB was getting its bearings, starting with the second Minnesota game. I think everyone on here was pretty excited after the four wins in a row (minus the guy that hasn't posted all year but waited until the Denver loss to chime in). They looked as good as any team in the NFC. But you can only lose so many guys without it impacting the team. 

[adambr2]

Just now, homer said:

Roster construction is different from 15 years ago. The offense is different from 15 years ago. The NFL as a whole is different.

This season, the offense was junk with Kraft but minus Watson and Reed. GB was getting its bearings, starting with the second Minnesota game. I think everyone on here was pretty excited after the four wins in a row (minus the guy that hasn't posted all year but waited until the Denver loss to chime in). They looked as good as any team in the NFC. But you can only lose so many guys without it impacting the team. 

Oh don’t get me wrong, I definitely think it impacts you. I just think we as fans tend to oversell how much it impacts us while simultaneously underselling how much it has impacted rivals. 

[Team Canada]

2 hours ago, Recovering Chicagoan said:

If both the Packers and Lions lose out, which NFC team gets in? 

Looks to me like GB, although it's hard to imagine either of them losing to Minnesota. Or to put it another way, if you lose to the Vikings, you don't deserve to make the playoffs.

[LouisEly]

12 minutes ago, Team Canada said:

Looks to me like GB, although it's hard to imagine either of them losing to Minnesota. Or to put it another way, if you lose to the Vikings, you don't deserve to make the playoffs.

Green Bay's "magic number" vs the Lions is 1.

Any win by GB or loss by DET and the Packers get in over the Lions.  Lions have two more losses - they have to win both and GB lose both, because with the same number of wins GB has the advantage in winning %.

[LouisEly]

It doesn't really mean a whole lot, but that Sam Darnold got named to the Pro Bowl over Jordan Love is a joke.

[Brian]

Just watched the Roundtable and Leroy Butler said the Bears defence was tackling leading with the helmet to Jorden Love and to Malik Willis the elbow to the neck to was inattentional blindness by the referees missing that call. Bears should have had $100,000 worth of fines in that game for dirty hits. 

[Jopal78]

17 hours ago, adambr2 said:

Truth in some of this, but other parts of it is revisionist history. It wasn’t just getting nicked up and then getting healthy late. We lost a massive number of players to IR, I believe it was 15, and at that time in the NFL, IR meant you were done for the season. And some of those were massive losses, they weren’t just role players.

Jermichael Finley was right on par with losing Kraft.

Ryan Grant was a massive loss, he had almost 1500 yards for us in 2009.

Tauscher- huge loss.

Nick Barnett - huge loss. 

These are the biggest examples, but not the only ones.

I think this is mostly lore. Both Tauscher and Barnett lost their jobs to the players who replaced them and never played for the Packers again.  
 

Barnett’s injury was negligible as Brad Jones stepped in and didn’t miss a beat. At RT they  had Bulaga a 1st round pick who made an All Rookie team, after starting once Tauscher went down in week 4.

Finely is only similar to Kraft as both were TE1. Kraft was much more of a focal point in the offense this year than Finely ever was with Jennings, Jones, and Nelson on the roster.

[adambr2]

52 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

I think this is mostly lore. Both Tauscher and Barnett lost their jobs to the players who replaced them and never played for the Packers again.  
 

Barnett’s injury was negligible as Brad Jones stepped in and didn’t miss a beat. At RT they  had Bulaga a 1st round pick who made an All Rookie team, after starting once Tauscher went down in week 4.

Finely is only similar to Kraft as both were TE1. Kraft was much more of a focal point in the offense this year than Finely ever was with Jennings, Jones, and Nelson on the roster.

This is underselling Finley in a big way and overselling 2010 Jordy.

Finley to begin 2010 was seen as one of the big up and coming TEs in the league. He broke out finishing up 2009 and then in 2010 he picked up right where he left off. He was definitely a focal point of the Packer offense. He had two 100 yard games in the first 3 games of the season and when he was lost for the season after 4 games, it was seen as a massive loss.

Up to that point, he had 21 catches on the season — Jordy had 6. I know Jordy had an awesome career as a Packer, but at that time he wasn’t a focal point of the offense — he didn’t start to come on until late 2010 (in part because Finley was no longer available) and he was distantly behind Jennings — and still behind Driver — on the depth chart.

It’s unfortunate that Finley’s career was cut short by injury because I think people forget how great he was starting to become, how good the chemistry between him and Rodgers was and just how high his ceiling was.

[Jopal78]

18 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

This is underselling Finley in a big way and overselling 2010 Jordy.

Finley to begin 2010 was seen as one of the big up and coming TEs in the league. He broke out finishing up 2009 and then in 2010 he picked up right where he left off. He was definitely a focal point of the Packer offense. He had two 100 yard games in the first 3 games of the season and when he was lost for the season after 4 games, it was seen as a massive loss.

Up to that point, he had 21 catches on the season — Jordy had 6. I know Jordy had an awesome career as a Packer, but at that time he wasn’t a focal point of the offense — he didn’t start to come on until late 2010 (in part because Finley was no longer available) and he was distantly behind Jennings — and still behind Driver — on the depth chart.

It’s unfortunate that Finley’s career was cut short by injury because I think people forget how great he was starting to become, how good the chemistry between him and Rodgers was and just how high his ceiling was.

You might be right. All I can remember about Finley was the hype despite dropped passes and then he had a spinal cord injury, and he retired almost immediately after. 

[HarveysWBs]

Managed to be less sucky and disappointing than the Lions this year…woo…

Hang the banner.

[adambr2]

The Packers now have the longest drought since a division championship of any team in the NFC North.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

On 12/24/2025 at 7:57 AM, adambr2 said:

This is underselling Finley in a big way and overselling 2010 Jordy.

Finley to begin 2010 was seen as one of the big up and coming TEs in the league. He broke out finishing up 2009 and then in 2010 he picked up right where he left off. He was definitely a focal point of the Packer offense. He had two 100 yard games in the first 3 games of the season and when he was lost for the season after 4 games, it was seen as a massive loss.

Up to that point, he had 21 catches on the season — Jordy had 6. I know Jordy had an awesome career as a Packer, but at that time he wasn’t a focal point of the offense — he didn’t start to come on until late 2010 (in part because Finley was no longer available) and he was distantly behind Jennings — and still behind Driver — on the depth chart.

It’s unfortunate that Finley’s career was cut short by injury because I think people forget how great he was starting to become, how good the chemistry between him and Rodgers was and just how high his ceiling was.

Finely 2009 Wild Card was one of best performances by a pass catcher in Packers history. 

[HarryDoyle]

2 hours ago, adambr2 said:

The Packers now have the longest drought since a division championship of any team in the NFC North.

Perhaps it's time this organization makes changes to how they go about things. Talking to you, Ed Policy.

[young guns]

Trevon diggs released by the cowboys today and now there's a lot of smoke connecting him to green Bay.   Anyone have an idea of if it would be worth while?  Watching our corner backs makes me feel like going all Phillip rivers and kicking the tires on Charles Woodson makes sense and a cardboard cutout of a corner back couldn't be worse.  But if the cowboys cut him it does bring me pause.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 hour ago, young guns said:

Trevon diggs released by the cowboys today and now there's a lot of smoke connecting him to green Bay.   Anyone have an idea of if it would be worth while?  Watching our corner backs makes me feel like going all Phillip rivers and kicking the tires on Charles Woodson makes sense and a cardboard cutout of a corner back couldn't be worse.  But if the cowboys cut him it does bring me pause.

He's awful. Probably not any worse than what we have on the team. This just happens any time someone's cut at a position of need and it's a name someone's heard of. He's firmly mediocre and has been injury riddled for some time now. 

[Jopal78]

13 hours ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

He's awful. Probably not any worse than what we have on the team. This just happens any time someone's cut at a position of need and it's a name someone's heard of. He's firmly mediocre and has been injury riddled for some time now. 

They would have nothing to lose by claiming him on waivers. The last two cornerbacks on the roster are Haddon who suffered a season ending injury and Melton who plays more offense than defense. The bar is set pretty low at CB. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

12 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

They would have nothing to lose by claiming him on waivers. The last two cornerbacks on the roster are Haddon who suffered a season ending injury and Melton who plays more offense than defense. The bar is set pretty low at CB. 

Yeah, accurate. Arguably the worst set of CBs in the league even when fully healthy. But Dallas waited for him to be healthy enough to throw him in a game, he apparently didn't play very hard, then they cut him to avoid an injury settlement and save a bunch of cap for next season. He's an upgrade if he wants to play, is he likely to make a big difference? Probably not.

[bjkrautk]

31 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

They would have nothing to lose by claiming him on waivers. The last two cornerbacks on the roster are Haddon who suffered a season ending injury and Melton who plays more offense than defense. The bar is set pretty low at CB. 

A waiver claim puts the Packers on the hook for the remainder of the Diggs contract, which is a non-starter for me.

[Jopal78]

2 hours ago, bjkrautk said:

A waiver claim puts the Packers on the hook for the remainder of the Diggs contract, which is a non-starter for me.

His contract has no guaranteed money left. He’d be owed his Week 17 game check ($475,000) and any claiming team would be free to cut him when the season is over with no further cost.

The only way it wouldn’t make sense if the Packers feel they have 53 players they like better, or need more. 
 

Diggs is probably washed up but a two time pro bowler with 20 career INTs could probably still be their fourth or fifth CB,  over what they currently have in house

 

[homer]

 

 

[adambr2]

It’s a fine addition. Not saying it’s a good one, but he’s been good in the past. Who knows. We certainly have worse.

[HarryDoyle]

1 hour ago, homer said:

 

 

It's something, I guess. 

[adambr2]

On 12/23/2025 at 4:42 PM, LouisEly said:

It doesn't really mean a whole lot, but that Sam Darnold got named to the Pro Bowl over Jordan Love is a joke.

Darnold has more TDs, more yards and his team is 13-3 and the current 1 seed.

I mean, don’t get me wrong, between the two I am also taking Love as my QB.

But as far as Pro Bowl snubs I’ve seen far more egregious.

With that being said I think Seattle has their warts. I don’t think Green Bay is going to do anything in the playoffs but @Chicago and @Seattle would be about as realistic of a possible revenge tour as you could ask for. 

I’d want no part of the 49ers, no revenge coming there. I’d just be hoping Philly could knock them off if we got that far on the other side.