Luis Lara Called Up By Brewers To Make MLB Debut

[adambr2]

42 minutes ago, eklinka said:

It truly amazes me how people think players can just go from even high A to MLB and have the same success they had in the minors. Like a guy has 28 HRs between A+ & AA so that means he'll get 28 HRs in MLB as a plug n play. 😂

I mean I actually think if Fischer played a full season in MLB right now he probably would hit 30-40 HR over a full season assuming full time regular ABs.

The problem right now would be that he’d probably strike out 45% of the time.  

[Fear The Chorizo]

2 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

They aren’t trading Mitchell and seriously doubt they will trade Sal in season.

Ps. Boy they really don’t want to add Jett to the 40 man yet……

 

If I had my choice to trade between Mitchell and Sal, I'd go with Sal.  I get your point about trading in-season, but with the extensions to both Pratt and Lara and the real possibility there won't be a 2027 season, I think this organization finds itself in a unique spot where they could trade pieces from their existing MLB roster to dramatically improve areas of perceived need come postseason (IMO another impact starter and a shutdown reliever) and then actually improve or at worst maintain the level of production of the guys you trade away with prospect promotions like Lara.

[titanrick]

4 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

 

I hope that means Greg Jones is the one driving Luis Lara from Nashville to St. Louis.

[rickh150]

39 minutes ago, eklinka said:

It truly amazes me how people think players can just go from even high A to MLB and have the same success they had in the minors. Like a guy has 28 HRs between A+ & AA so that means he'll get 28 HRs in MLB as a plug n play. 😂

Not that fair considering Fischer's success with Italy in the World Baseball Classic. Limited at bats there, sure...but there would be worse ideas than bringing Fischer up for a few starts at 3B. 

He has been off the charts hot this season.  Call it a basketball term of heat check.  Keep shooting until you start missing. I wouldn't mind seeing how his 1st round pick bat would play here, especially if Hamilton is banged up anyway.

[RobertCrawley]

1 hour ago, torts said:

thank you, Blake, but barring any injuries, im hoping to not see you again?

I don't know. Maybe he gets something figured out in the steamy environs of Nashville, Tennessee?

[torts]

1 minute ago, adambr2 said:

I mean I actually think if Fischer played a full season in MLB right now he probably would hit 30-40 HR over a full season assuming full time regular ABs.

The problem right now would be that he’d probably strike out 45% of the time.  

i wouldnt be mad at that, does he walk at all?  would luv a 3TO bat in this lineup someday again

[igor67]

So far he walks a ton

[tmwiese55]

If not for the roster rules issues tossing out fischer and seeing what happens could be an idea.  However, starting his clock, using a 40 man spot for that gamble just isn't likely to happen.  Especially with the potential lockout coming.     Say it was like the NBA and he was on a 2 way type contract where there is no risk in bringing him up and down, yea with our production at 3B give it a try.

[rickh150]

2 minutes ago, tmwiese55 said:

If not for the roster rules issues tossing out fischer and seeing what happens could be an idea.  However, starting his clock, using a 40 man spot for that gamble just isn't likely to happen.  Especially with the potential lockout coming.     Say it was like the NBA and he was on a 2 way type contract where there is no risk in bringing him up and down, yea with our production at 3B give it a try.

With the situation we are in, meaning a great opportunity to get to the World Series, I try it now (or later this year). It is a small price to pay for a potential huge lift to the team. If he struggles, send him down.

[tmwiese55]

1 minute ago, rickh150 said:

With the situation we are in, meaning a great opportunity to get to the World Series, I try it now (or later this year). It is a small price to pay for a potential huge lift to the team. If he struggles, send him down.

Which, if he pans out, could cost you a season down the line when he would hit 45 HRs

[liveforoctober]

Just now, tmwiese55 said:

Which, if he pans out, could cost you a season down the line when he would hit 45 HRs

.. and a full season of development next year.

[tmwiese55]

Right.  That said, there's certainly  a world where he keeps tearing it up in AA. Gets to AAA say a month from now, keeps killing it. And then come end of Aug or early Sept our 3B situation is still trash and they do give it a try for the playoffs.   

Right now though, with the team basically on cruise control to a division win you don't have to take that risk

[rickh150]

If he can help us this year, do it. At least try it.  Worrying about 2033 rules and how that plays doesn't make sense to me. Especially if the next CBA runs for only 5 or 6 years. Who knows what the clock looks like or how much $ we have to sign anyone.

[igor67]

I actually kind of want him to see either AA or AAA for a good chunk of a season even if he dominates just to give teams a chance to really try and find a weakness to exploit. Or alternatively he finds his own subtle adjustments to bring the K rate down.

[JoeyWiemerTruther]

Made or Fischer will not see MLB ABs this year so people need to get that thought out of their head to avoid disappointment. 

[cragi]

I'm not seeing Fischer yet. The lockout potential, the whiff rate, losing development.. no reason to start his clock early when you have some borderline top prospects at the AAA level in Williams and Adams already. Outside shot at September callups if he continues at this pace but not expecting it.

[Jopal78]

29 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I mean I actually think if Fischer played a full season in MLB right now he probably would hit 30-40 HR over a full season assuming full time regular ABs.

The problem right now would be that he’d probably strike out 45% of the time.  

Nah, he’d have a couple weeks before teams diagnosed video on where they could pitch him where he couldn’t hit it yet not lay off it. The, he would see nothing but that until he made a counter adjustment 

Hiura got 1057 PAs with the Brewers, struck out 36% of the time and hit only 50 homers in those 1057 PAs. And that’s after playing all levels of the minor leagues.

[JoeyWiemerTruther]

Honestly think Fischer is more likely to be traded than he is to be called up this year. Although I don’t want him traded Brewers might sell high and use him as the main piece in a package for someone big, selling high on him and assuming his K rate will continue being an issue but with less HRs in the future. 

[rickh150]

2 minutes ago, JoeyWiemerTruther said:

Made or Fischer will not see MLB ABs this year so people need to get that thought out of their head to avoid disappointment. 

Why not? Why put limits here? If Hamilton and Pratt get hurt, I think one is up. 

[edfunderburk]

1 hour ago, igor67 said:

But I also like the notion of hiding an extra bat at 3rd during a Miz start. I seem to recall from a spray chart he does get relatively few balls hit that way overall.

If & when Milwaukee puts Frelick or Vaughn at 3B to start a game, I anticipate the opponent will bunt five times … especially if Miz is pitching

[liveforoctober]

1 minute ago, rickh150 said:

Why not? Why put limits here? If Hamilton and Pratt get hurt, I think one is up. 

I don't know if you are trolling or not..

[DonBarclay]

4 minutes ago, rickh150 said:

Why not? Why put limits here? If Hamilton and Pratt get hurt, I think one is up. 

Because this isn’t a video game, and the brewers are conservative in their approach to brining up prospects that aren’t under extension and don’t need to be on the 40 man yet. If those injuries take place, it’s Jett/Adams/Leonard/trade. Guys that have to go on the 40 this offseason and have AAA experience. That’s not to say that they’re better prospects, but it’s almost certainly what would happen. 

[formerlybis]

Why is Greg Jones the next man up if Hamilton need to go on the IL? We need infielders...

[eklinka]

15 minutes ago, rickh150 said:

Not that fair considering Fischer's success with Italy in the World Baseball Classic. Limited at bats there, sure...but there would be worse ideas than bringing Fischer up for a few starts at 3B. 

He has been off the charts hot this season.  Call it a basketball term of heat check.  Keep shooting until you start missing. I wouldn't mind seeing how his 1st round pick bat would play here, especially if Hamilton is banged up anyway.

I've seen this argument before, it was only 16 WBC PA and his best games were against AA pitchers (he wasnt the only prospect that played in the WBC). Not diminishing his success, but that's not equivalent to MLB experience. 

And it would be extremely bad to bring up a young player only for him to get smoked by MLB pitching, demolishing his confidence. Trust in the Brewers to make the right decision when it comes to bringing up players.

[JoeyWiemerTruther]

6 minutes ago, rickh150 said:

Why not? Why put limits here? If Hamilton and Pratt get hurt, I think one is up. 

Call him up for a small sample, start his service clock, have to add him to the 40 man, might not even do well then potentially have him sitting on the MLB roster next season during a lockout and not playing when he could be in AAA getting crucial development ABs instead, they won’t do it unless they sign him to one of those 8 year extensions soon which I don’t think is happening, same situation with Made. Possibly extended in March 2027 though along with Made. If they value Fischer that much at least.