Rumor: Top 50 Trade Candidates - Who Interests You?

[brewcrewdue80]

22 hours ago, jay87shot said:

Justin Turner and Jeimer Candelario would be at the top of my list. 

I would try and find ways to trade some of our guys on the 40 man who are seemingly on the way out. 

Turner for Tyrone Taylor, Ethan Small/Janson Junk, and Gregory Barrios

Candelario for Peter Strezlecki/Janson Junk, Abraham Toro, and Jeison Pena

Each trade clears up 40 man roster space and improves our lineup without gicing ip meaningful future pieces. The other team 2 young controllable player with some mlb experience for this season and beyond and a lotto type prospect.

1) Yeli, 2) Turner, 3) Candyman, 4) Adames (if he continues to hit), 5) Contreras. 

That actually sounds like a decent 1-5 and we could make a swing at a decent DH/1B still.

 

Don't be the type who makes offers that rid the team of low value/waiver wire values like it will get somebody the Brewers need. Nobody wants any of these guys but us.

[wiguy94]

46 minutes ago, nate82 said:

I think this is a closer trade for Candelario but it will depend on who the Nationals like.  I don't think teams will be willing to go for anything above $6m in value for Candelario.  Maybe there is a GM out there who is desperate but I don't think Candelario would be that player.  At most you are looking at $8m in value but I think anything over $6m in value is an extreme overpay for Candelario.

 

I think Barlow is the relief pitcher the Brewers go after but I am not sure who they would trade for him.  I think Urias may also be traded during the deadline this year and that team is probably the Rockies as they do dumb things all the time plus they kind of owe the NL Central for giving away Arenado for nothing to the Cardinals. 

Please tell me that is Carlos Rodriguez not Yophery Rodriguez

[nate82]

Would be Carlos Rodriguez I believe but it is hard to tell on that site sometimes. 

[Outlander]

None of those guys have much upside or are very appealing. Not very hard for other contenders to beat that offer.

[nate82]

28 minutes ago, Outlander said:

None of those guys have much upside or are very appealing. Not very hard for other contenders to beat that offer.

Why would they beat that?  If they are going to overpay for someone like Candelario you let them.  I don't believe many teams are going to be offering different than what has been proposed.  They are going to be the same type of prospects.  I am not sure what you think a return for Candelario should be but these are the type of prospects that the Nationals are going to get in return for him. 

[jay87shot]

2 hours ago, Outlander said:

None of those guys have much upside or are very appealing. Not very hard for other contenders to beat that offer.

Yeah, good point. I will adjust those offers.

Hendry Mendez, Joseph Hernandez, and Abraham Toro for Turner

Logan Henderson, Carlos Rodriguez (OF), and Jason Alexander  for Candelario

Both offers contain a top 15ish org prospect, top 30 and 40 man roster swap.

[wibadgers23]

How do you add meaningful pieces to the offense without giving up significant prospects? Arnold has his work cut out for him.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

9 hours ago, wibadgers23 said:

How do you add meaningful pieces to the offense without giving up significant prospects? Arnold has his work cut out for him.

Simple. Avoid the bigger named stars and go for the older veteran in the last few months of their deal who are having solid years or are showing something hopeful. Those guys can be had for a middling prospect. And often they have as much if not more of an impact that the big name bat. Jorge Soler was acquired by the Braves two years ago for a mid 20's prospect named Kasey Kalich who has since been released from the minors by the Royals and hasn't pitched for anyone this year. All Soler did was become WS MVP for the Braves that year. Eddie Rosario was acquired for the corpse of Pablo Sandoval at the same deadline and he was the Braves NLCS MVP.

Other players who fit the same mold whose playoff contribution far outsized the price to acquire them include Steve Pearce, Howie Kendrick, and Randall Simon.

Yes these are longshots but that's all this current Brewers team is worth spending on.

[bensheeps]

My family and I traveled to Cincinnati to watch the first place showdown this weekend.  After viewing game 1 of the series and seeing that we were starting Monasterio and Miller at the infield corners (I know it was supposed to be Anderson at third, but still), I'm even more ready to find a 3rd/1st/DH addition in the next two weeks.  The sooner the better.

My preference would be J. Turner, but I don't think the Red Sox will move him as they hope to add to stay in the WC race.  I'm afraid J. Candelario is headed for a bigger price tag than we want to pay.

This leads me to blocked AAA-type player.  I've brought up Bobby Dalbec before and think he would be an interesting get to see if his stellar bat at Worcester can carry over for a couple of months in the bigs.  Any other options of similar player would do.

Maybe a deal with Boston to get Adam Duvall and Dalbec to add two bats.  Duvall has really cooled off since his wrist injury, but sounds like he is available as Boston looks to buy and sell.

[jay87shot]

The Yankees just moved into last place, I am thinking the Red Sox won't be selling. The Angels, Padres, and Mariners are probably more likely to sell than the Red Sox.

Of those teams Brandon Drury and Ty France are the only corner IF help (maybe Eugenio Suarez). Both would be really great but I think the price would be stepper than we would want.

[Playing Catch]

12 hours ago, wibadgers23 said:

How do you add meaningful pieces to the offense without giving up significant prospects? Arnold has his work cut out for him.

I hadn't considered Luis Urias as a trade candidate, but he would certainly look valuable to the right team. Hiura, too, of course. Toro, Perkins. Those players have all proven to be MLBers, just probably on non-playoff teams.

[TURBO]

5 hours ago, bensheeps said:

 

Maybe a deal with Boston to get Adam Duvall and Dalbec to add two bats.  Duvall has really cooled off since his wrist injury, but sounds like he is available as Boston looks to buy and sell.

Those are not the kind of bats we need to improve, or make a deep play-off push.

For that reason, I expect to have them both by July 31st :(

[wallus]

A guy we should be looking at is Eloy Jimenez. He is a hack in the field but would be an upgrade at DH and has a reasonable contract. According to the MLB trade values site, he has negative value (because his defense sucks) but I don't agree with that. I would give up a guy in our 10-15 or if they want a project like Lauer that would work too.

I think we need 2-3 hitters but am prepared for us to only pick up one. 

[wiguy94]

44 minutes ago, wallus said:

A guy we should be looking at is Eloy Jimenez. He is a hack in the field but would be an upgrade at DH and has a reasonable contract. According to the MLB trade values site, he has negative value (because his defense sucks) but I don't agree with that. I would give up a guy in our 10-15 or if they want a project like Lauer that would work too.

I think we need 2-3 hitters but am prepared for us to only pick up one. 

He has negative value because BTV struggles at valuing team options correctly and his extensive injury history. Definitely do not think he's a negative asset. He's on my short list for potential trade acquisitions. We could trade for him and have the DH spot set for the next 3.5 seasons.

[LouisEly]

The reality is that there just aren't going to be many bats available who are significant upgrades.  The Mets - with their $335M payroll - have Daniel Vogelbach as their DH.  Think about that. 

The Cardinals can get more for Goldschmidt that he's worth because he will likely be the only high impact bat available, even though he turns 36 in September.  Same with Candelario (and there's risk there - you can't ignore 2022).  Candelario may be the right risk, but with that low salary there will be competition.  

I don't recall seeing Brandon Drury's name brought up yet.  He could help shore up the offense anywhere in the infield except SS.  Under contract next year for $8.5M so not terrible.  I don't know that the Brewers like his BB:K profile, but the bat is there and defensive versatility.

If I'm targeting players, it's Drury and Hader.  Trade them in the offseason for 75% of what it costs to acquire them.

[nate82]

I think Urias will be traded and I think the Nationals will be a team interested in Urias.  They can take the risk if Urias is good next year great then they can trade him.  Someone will have to play 2B/SS/3B for the Nationals in '24 and even with his arbitration raise he will still be cheaper than a FA. 

I think something like Urias, Small and Carlos Rodriguez (OF) would be very close to what the Nationals will get back in return for Candelario.

[brewmann04]

I think you see Hiura name included in any trade 

[BrewerFan]

4 hours ago, nate82 said:

I think Urias will be traded and I think the Nationals will be a team interested in Urias.  They can take the risk if Urias is good next year great then they can trade him.  Someone will have to play 2B/SS/3B for the Nationals in '24 and even with his arbitration raise he will still be cheaper than a FA. 

I think something like Urias, Small and Carlos Rodriguez (OF) would be very close to what the Nationals will get back in return for Candelario.

That trade makes sense. Rodriguez is a really nice prospect. There's some Victor Robles comps there, but I think he'll hit for a higher average. Robles as an actual big leaguer, not as a prospect obviously.

Small is the type of guy that teams like the Nats should be looking at. Long list of left handed starters without big velo who take a while to get going. And Urias has been worth nearly 7 WAR the previous two seasons?

 

[BrewerFan]

46 minutes ago, brewmann04 said:

I think you see Hiura name included in any trade 

I'd really prefer to see him in Milwaukee for a couple weeks. 

I don't really understand the reluctance at this point. We've seen him scrap the leg kick. He's got a new swing, he looks like he's got more plate coverage. He banged up his knee, missed some time, but the bat to ball talent is still so clearly there. He can play 1B or DH. He's not a 2B...unless you absolutely need it, or a LFer, but it's not like Winker gives you position versatility or Tellez does either.

[Jim French Stepstool]

6 hours ago, LouisEly said:

The reality is that there just aren't going to be many bats available who are significant upgrades.  The Mets - with their $335M payroll - have Daniel Vogelbach as their DH.  Think about that. 

The Cardinals can get more for Goldschmidt that he's worth because he will likely be the only high impact bat available, even though he turns 36 in September.  Same with Candelario (and there's risk there - you can't ignore 2022).  Candelario may be the right risk, but with that low salary there will be competition.  

I don't recall seeing Brandon Drury's name brought up yet.  He could help shore up the offense anywhere in the infield except SS.  Under contract next year for $8.5M so not terrible.  I don't know that the Brewers like his BB:K profile, but the bat is there and defensive versatility.

If I'm targeting players, it's Drury and Hader.  Trade them in the offseason for 75% of what it costs to acquire them.

I was an advocate for Drury last deadline, but not so much now. On paper he'd give you better production at 3B than BA but  probably not as good defense & we all know how that's valued. As you pointed out the BB to K ratio is pretty ugly & that's something they're trying to move away from. I think if acquired he'd largely DH & play 2B for 6-7 innings vs LHP while CC hopes they can get the lead so he can go with Turang. Maybe if he comes real cheap, but I don't see it.

[wiguy94]

I'm all in on the Eloy Jimenez train. 3.5 years of team control counting the team options but with his injury history, I don't think he would be very expensive to acquire. Trade for him and put him at DH and in the clean up spot for the next 3.5 years. I seriously don't think we would have to trade any of our top 8 prospects to get him (Chourio, Quero, Misiorowski, Frelick, Black, Lara, Gasser, Rodriguez)

[nate82]

23 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

I'm all in on the Eloy Jimenez train. 3.5 years of team control counting the team options but with his injury history, I don't think he would be very expensive to acquire. Trade for him and put him at DH and in the clean up spot for the next 3.5 years. I seriously don't think we would have to trade any of our top 8 prospects to get him (Chourio, Quero, Misiorowski, Frelick, Black, Lara, Gasser, Rodriguez)

I was thinking about Jimenez but I am not sure the White Sox will make him available.  They probably should as they have other options at DH also in Vaughn, Sheets and Bennintendi.  Talking about bad contracts I am glad the Brewers didn't sign Bennintendi like some wanted to.  Preferred option from the White Sox would be Robert but he is definitely not available. 

If the Brewers could get Jimenez that would be a good #4 hitter and it would allow to drop Tellez to the 5th or 6th spot in the lineup.  I think a lineup of Yelich, Contreras, Adames, Jimenez, Tellez would be a good 1-5 for the Brewers.  From 6-9 it would then allow you to have Turang and Wiemer at the bottom of the order which really wouldn't matter as much as they are your 8 and 9 hitters what they do at the bottom of the order doesn't really matter as much.  It would mean that Yelich would be playing more games in LF and Contreras would get less games at DH.  I don't think you would want to have Jimenez in the field at all or at least try and limit him to only one or two games a week in the field. 

This is another team where you could see Urias going to also.  Something like Urias, Lutz and Junk for Jimenez.  I know Jimenez basically has negative value but I think that gets negated by the lack of good bats available in the trade market. 

[wiguy94]

23 minutes ago, nate82 said:

I was thinking about Jimenez but I am not sure the White Sox will make him available.  They probably should as they have other options at DH also in Vaughn, Sheets and Bennintendi.  Talking about bad contracts I am glad the Brewers didn't sign Bennintendi like some wanted to.  Preferred option from the White Sox would be Robert but he is definitely not available. 

If the Brewers could get Jimenez that would be a good #4 hitter and it would allow to drop Tellez to the 5th or 6th spot in the lineup.  I think a lineup of Yelich, Contreras, Adames, Jimenez, Tellez would be a good 1-5 for the Brewers.  From 6-9 it would then allow you to have Turang and Wiemer at the bottom of the order which really wouldn't matter as much as they are your 8 and 9 hitters what they do at the bottom of the order doesn't really matter as much.  It would mean that Yelich would be playing more games in LF and Contreras would get less games at DH.  I don't think you would want to have Jimenez in the field at all or at least try and limit him to only one or two games a week in the field. 

This is another team where you could see Urias going to also.  Something like Urias, Lutz and Junk for Jimenez.  I know Jimenez basically has negative value but I think that gets negated by the lack of good bats available in the trade market. 

Yeah not sure if he will be available or not, but if he is he seems like a perfect guy to target (assuming Mark is okay taking on that contract). I really dislike trading for rentals and much prefer trading for guys with 2+ years of control even though they are usually more expensive.

Get Jimenez, an IF bat, and an OF bat. Maybe something like Ha-Seong Kim (if San Diego sells) and Grichuk?

C: Contreras

1B: Tellez

2B: Turang

3B: Kim

SS: Adames

LF: Yelich

CF: Wiemer

RF: Grichuk

DH: Jimenez

Bench: Caratini, Anderson, Miller, Taylor

Feel like that team is a bit to RHH heavy so maybe a LHH OF instead of Grichuk or a LHH IF instead of Kim? The problem is I have no clue who is going to sell.

Feel like Colorado, Washington, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Mets, Cubs, Padres, Athletics, Royals, White Sox, Tigers should all sell but the Mets, Cubs, Padres might not want to sell.

[nate82]

Jimenez left today's game with a groin injury. 

[wiguy94]

1 hour ago, nate82 said:

Jimenez left today's game with a groin injury. 

Well that sucks