Brewers and Chourio: Heyman reports 8 years, $80 million + 2 club option years

[brewcrewdue80]

Jackson! Jackson! Jackson!

 

Chourio!  Chourio!  Chourio!

 

MVP!  MVP!  MVP!

 

What's the initial chant going to be for Jackson?

Btw-every batting clip I'm watching and the glimpses of the beauty in all of-stance-posture-motion-balance-swing, rinse repeat.  He's got .300+ career coming.  And yhe just won GG for CF in AA.  Like his future is seasonally better than Gomez's big WAR season.  8+ yearly if he accumulates games. 

One 2 PA clip he was battling to 3-2 counts both times but his taken ball wins he was celebrating mentally or stepping out the box. Saying nope out load when the pitch missed.  Getting to view that batting stance-etc repeated. (Small adjustment 1st 0-2 pa)  

Yeah he's 19, this fricken good, and that whole body-mind and letting the game continue becoming easier for him will start now Opening Day.  

Fingers crossed on the 2 option years being easy team pickups.

 

Oh yeah. 1 ended in a swing and a miss. 2nd was a line drive double I think advancing a runner to 3rd. (Maybe base clogger on 1st to 2nd and wasn't JC ending on 2nd) 

[sveumrules]

Believe $82M is the 3rd largest guarantee in Brewers history behind the Braun and Yelich extensions.

[jay87shot]

6 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

 

The 2 million buyout seems low which is really nice. Hopefully the team options are for more than the 2 years but I can't complain about locking him up for 10 years.

[monty57]

2 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

The 2 million buyout seems low which is really nice. Hopefully the team options are for more than the 2 years but I can't complain about locking him up for 10 years.

I agree, $2M to get out if he isn't performing as expected is a low price to pay for the chance to have him two more years if he's playing well.

[MrTPlush]

It just means the Brewers aren’t deferring money and spreading it out over an additional year.

The low buyout is actually a win in Chourio’s corner.

-$80mil plus $17mil or $2mil buyout = $97mil or $82mil

-$72mil plus $17mil or $10mil buyout= $89mil or $82mil

Same guaranteed money, but he ends up with a lot more the lower that buyout is in the event the Brewers pick up the options.

[Matt]

Where are people seeing 8 + 2? 

[BigFickEnergy]

It's been reported by Heyman and Rosenthal that its an 8 year deal with two additional team options. 

[adambr2]

12 hours ago, JefferyLeonard said:

People, my whole point is this...sure maybe the Chourio signing won't effect who else they sign, but let's be realistic, when have they ever signed a big name FA to any kind of big money deal? They just aren't bold enough. Now further my point is this, if Mark A is willing to spend $80 million(and 80 million is 80 million no matter how many years it is for etc it's still 80 mill), I would much rather see him spend that 80 million on proven players, even if it's over two years for both. 

Yeah no. You can't remove the 8 years context from 80M and act like it's the same as 2 years. Budgeting 80M over 8 years is wayyyyy different than budgeting it over 2. 

This is like telling someone that if they can afford a 30 year mortgage for a $400,000 dollar home, they can afford a 5 year loan for a $400,000 Porsche. 

[TURBO]

Who is his agent, sure can't be BorASS!

[torts]

6 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Who is his agent, sure can't be BorASS!

It feels like the latest Giannis contract where he was just "point where to sign y'all it's dame time" and didn't care just lessssgooooook

[Matt]

[DR28]

Love it, 10 yrs, $140 M total deal! Really love this deal, if the Acuna comps are legit... Potential superstar for $14 M a year, yes please!

Now go get us Hoskins!

[BigFickEnergy]

I'm ready for a press conference! Really just wanting to know what number he's going to wear. 

[DR28]

1 minute ago, BigFickEnergy said:

I'm ready for a press conference! Really just wanting to know what number he's going to wear. 

Agreed! Ready to order a Chourio shirsey.

[Dragonbait]

2 minutes ago, BigFickEnergy said:

I'm ready for a press conference! Really just wanting to know what number he's going to wear. 

30?

[tmwiese55]

3 hours ago, sveumrules said:

Believe $82M is the 3rd largest guarantee in Brewers history behind the Braun and Yelich extensions.

Sure, but its not bold enough

[endaround]

I guess I am the only one who is pretty "ehhhh" on this.  The Brewers already had Chourio for basically 7 years already.  A typical salary payout for that if Chourio is good but not MVP level the Brewers likely would be something like 1,1,1,6,12,16,20 for a total of $57-60 million over 7 years.  So they added one more year at $20 million plus options at maybe $30m per year?  The Brewers really only protected themselves from Chourio becoming Soto, Franco or Acuna all of whom already where much better by age 19.  Not saying that Chourio can't become a 7 win player, but its a leap.

And much of the value of the 8th year gets wasted by rushing Chourio to MLB this season after a fine but hardly rush to the majors campaign in AA.

[torts]

12 minutes ago, endaround said:

I guess I am the only one who is pretty "ehhhh" on this.  The Brewers already had Chourio for basically 7 years already.  A typical salary payout for that if Chourio is good but not MVP level the Brewers likely would be something like 1,1,1,6,12,16,20 for a total of $57-60 million over 7 years.  So they added one more year at $20 million plus options at maybe $30m per year?  The Brewers really only protected themselves from Chourio becoming Soto, Franco or Acuna all of whom already where much better by age 19.  Not saying that Chourio can't become a 7 win player, but its a leap.

And much of the value of the 8th year gets wasted by rushing Chourio to MLB this season after a fine but hardly rush to the majors campaign in AA.

That's based on comparisons today, what the comparisons are in 5 years and in the next CBA are unknown.  

[torts]

Ie your arb year salaries will always be different every year because they look at comparable salaries, so it's going to flux and be unknown every year (and contentious every year)

[homer]

1 minute ago, torts said:

That's based on comparisons today, what the comparisons are in 5 years and in the next CBA are unknown.  

I was thinking the same thing. Current CBA ends in 2026.

[Fear The Chorizo]

17 minutes ago, endaround said:

I guess I am the only one who is pretty "ehhhh" on this.  The Brewers already had Chourio for basically 7 years already.  A typical salary payout for that if Chourio is good but not MVP level the Brewers likely would be something like 1,1,1,6,12,16,20 for a total of $57-60 million over 7 years.  So they added one more year at $20 million plus options at maybe $30m per year?  The Brewers really only protected themselves from Chourio becoming Soto, Franco or Acuna all of whom already where much better by age 19.  Not saying that Chourio can't become a 7 win player, but its a leap.

And much of the value of the 8th year gets wasted by rushing Chourio to MLB this season after a fine but hardly rush to the majors campaign in AA.

Can see the points in all of this, but then what happens if Chourio instead got stashed in AAA for at least part of this season or any sort of extension doesn't get signed in his 1st season or two in MLB with more of a "wait and see" approach?  Suddenly that contract approaches the Mariner's Rodriguez territory or something the Brewers aren't able to afford, or Chourio opts to go the Soto route and take things through arbitration - and then the Brewers are already trying to weigh if/when the right time to try and deal Chourio away is to maximize return on a player they won't be able to even sign to a longterm extension before he reaches his prime years of production?

By year 9 in this deal, $30 AAV could easily be the going rate for an above average veteran outfielder, so those options will look friendlier the closer the Brewers get to deciding whether or not to exercise them.  Same goes for comparing arby salaries/contract extension amounts to players like Soto/Franco/Acuna that will have occurred 5-8 years earlier than when Chourio's increasing salaries start hitting - I think the $80M 8-yr base contract actually has a chance to save the Brewers quite a bit with Chourio in what would've been hypothetical arbitration salaries years down the road, plus that initial free agent year.

 

[Matt]

Instead of seven seasons they have him for ten, the final three being his prime. Nothing ehhhh about that, in my opinion. 

[Brewcrew82]

3 hours ago, endaround said:

I guess I am the only one who is pretty "ehhhh" on this.  The Brewers already had Chourio for basically 7 years already.  A typical salary payout for that if Chourio is good but not MVP level the Brewers likely would be something like 1,1,1,6,12,16,20 for a total of $57-60 million over 7 years.  So they added one more year at $20 million plus options at maybe $30m per year?  The Brewers really only protected themselves from Chourio becoming Soto, Franco or Acuna all of whom already where much better by age 19.  Not saying that Chourio can't become a 7 win player, but its a leap.

And much of the value of the 8th year gets wasted by rushing Chourio to MLB this season after a fine but hardly rush to the majors campaign in AA.

Chourio’s minor league slash line is almost identical to Acuna’s and they’re both among only 4 teenagers to ever put up a 20-40 season, with Chourio's occurring entirely in the high minors…..

Franco and Soto also didn’t have to deal with a pretacked ball…

[SeaBass]

51 minutes ago, DR28 said:

Love it, 10 yrs, $140 M total deal! Really love this deal, if the Acuna comps are legit... Potential superstar for $14 M a year, yes please!

Now go get us Hoskins!

The $140 is just the max possible, in reality it's likely less. Incentives for ROY, MVP, GG, All-Star, WS, etc. are figured into that max value. Yeah, we can hope he maxes out that value because it means he's probably one of the top 5 players in the league.

I'd also think there's a modest signing bonus to keep yearly values lower. I believe Jimenez got a $5M bonus which got spread out over his arby years.

[torts]

26 minutes ago, homer said:

I was thinking the same thing. Current CBA ends in 2026.

Exactly.  Arb/prearb years is the piece I expect the MLBPA to want to shorten, or, make richer each negotiation period.  I'm fairly confident it has the last two CBAs so no reason to expect that to change for 2026