Brewers acquire Dallas Keuchel

[CheezWizHed]

As others have said, it is a low cost move to band aid our rotation until a few more get healthy.  Not a needle mover but plugs a leak in the dike which has value. 

I guess by saying "meh", I join the ranks of the "happy" here at BF. 😂

1 hour ago, EddieTheCousin said:

...and who also has pictures going around social over the past month that indicate he is romantically involved with his agent?

Even if that were true, it is laughable for that to be a concern in light of everything else MLB players have been involved with or accused of...

 

[sveumrules]

6 hours ago, bigred said:

As a fan, it's WAY beyond frustrating, constantly being led to believe the organization is "going for it", then watching the team continually not actually go for it,

The Brewers have won the 6th most games in MLB since 2017. Pretty impressive to have that level of success over that long of a timeframe while not actually going for it.

They have a 5.5 game division lead halfway through a season most had them pegged for third place at best behind the Cardinals and Cubs. 

Pretty frustrating stuff.

[torts]

7 hours ago, bigred said:

As a fan, it's WAY beyond frustrating, constantly being led to believe the organization is "going for it", then watching the team continually not actually go for it, and make a trade(s) to actually go for it. Especially with the stacked farm system we currently have. Can you say "gaslighting", because that's basically what they constantly do with our fan base. It's sort of like the old State Farm commercial, with the old guy with the fishing pole. 

Lol, or you could just... Not yet frustrated?  

[torts]

50 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

The Brewers have won the 6th most games in MLB since 2017. Pretty impressive to have that level of success over that long of a timeframe while not actually going for it.

They have a 5.5 game division lead halfway through a season most had them pegged for third place at best behind the Cardinals and Cubs. 

Pretty frustrating stuff.

This.  When we become the pirates organization we can begin to be frustrated.  

[Playing Catch]

I agree with everyone that believes this move is largely inconsequential, and fine.

Although I also agree with bigred, in the sense that the media, including the Brewers via Sophia and others can't help but continue mentioning the Cy Young. Most of us here are able to roll our eyes at such talk, and move on, but for casual fans that just read the paper every day, it sounds a lot like "promoting" this as a big move.

[wallus]

This organization has been making moves like this for years now. Sometimes they work out, sometimes they do not. Overall, they have been a helpful way to keep winning games however. Not every transaction is going to be a "big move". I remember reading how trading for Hudson wasn't a big deal either.

[Playing Catch]

I think the casual faction of the Brewers fanbase have also been "spoiled," by the moves for Sabathia and Greinke, Yelich and Cain. Those were all legitimately big moves.

In their eyes, unless you are doing moves of that magnitude, you aren't "going for it".

[Thurston Fluff]

7 hours ago, bigred said:

As a fan, it's WAY beyond frustrating, constantly being led to believe the organization is "going for it", then watching the team continually not actually go for it, and make a trade(s) to actually go for it. Especially with the stacked farm system we currently have. Can you say "gaslighting", because that's basically what they constantly do with our fan base. It's sort of like the old State Farm commercial, with the old guy with the fishing pole. 

The team has never said they were "going for it." Theirs is a "more bites at the apple" appraoch which is the opposite of "going for it." I can understand why someone who thinks the team is doing the opposite of what they think they should do is frustrated but that's not the same as the team saying that's what they're doing.

[Underachiever]

3 hours ago, EddieTheCousin said:

Is this the same player who really isn't that great without the sticky stuff and who also has pictures going around social over the past month that indicate he is romantically involved with his agent?

Pretty shrewd. Marry your agent, you get half of that 10% fee back. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

Even if that were true, it is laughable for that to be a concern in light of everything else MLB players have been involved with or accused of...

 

Don't get it twisted, the primary concern remains that he beats women in the bedroom and video tapes it.

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

Pretty shrewd. Marry your agent, you get half of that 10% fee back. 

Kyle Lohse actually accused Bauer of being involved with her years ago, they got into a twitter war over it for a few days IIRC.

More pics dropped over the past month that were pulled from Luba's private IG.... it's not a normal player/agent relationship.

Is it that big of a deal? Not really but for a player who has made plenty of questionable decisions and trying to convince teams he has matured.... it doesn't do much to support that claim.

[tmwiese55]

I'd probably move on from this topic.  If you don't want to have rich athletes who sleep around and/or don't frequently cheat on their wives then you're likely not going to be able to field a team.    

[Playing Catch]

6 minutes ago, tmwiese55 said:

I'd probably move on from this topic.  If you don't want to have rich athletes who sleep around and/or don't frequently cheat on their wives then you're likely not going to be able to field a team.    

And let's be honest, this type of thing is not reserved for the rich, for the athletes, or for professional sports teams, but are common to find in most walks of life. I don't care to speculate on percentages, but moral fallibility can be found everywhere, just like there are also really wonderful humans that play baseball for a lot of money.

[owbc]

1 hour ago, Playing Catch said:

I think the casual faction of the Brewers fanbase have also been "spoiled," by the moves for Sabathia and Greinke, Yelich and Cain. Those were all legitimately big moves.

In their eyes, unless you are doing moves of that magnitude, you aren't "going for it".

Strong agree...but I do empathize with the reality that the current run is going to end at some point and it will look like a failure if we don't get at least another NLCS appearance before we miss the playoffs again. 

I think it's fair to want a splashy deadline move this year, but it's not going to happen in freaking June and the expanded playoffs have really put a damper on the deadline hot stove. 

 

 

[KeithStone53151]

6 hours ago, EddieTheCousin said:

Is this the same player who really isn't that great without the sticky stuff and who also has pictures going around social over the past month that indicate he is romantically involved with his agent?

Unless his agent is a minor...or he went all Trevor Bauers on him/her, I fail to see how this is even remotely relevant. Stop trying to find ways to be offended, it's a baseball game.

[KeithStone53151]

2 hours ago, Playing Catch said:

And let's be honest, this type of thing is not reserved for the rich, for the athletes, or for professional sports teams, but are common to find in most walks of life. I don't care to speculate on percentages, but moral fallibility can be found everywhere, just like there are also really wonderful humans that play baseball for a lot of money.

In fairness, rich and attractive people have a lot more temptation/opportunity than Joe Schmo blue collar worker. Plenty of blue collar people might have the moral fallibility to cheat...but don't have an opportunity that's worth their while.

[KeithStone53151]

On a lighter note, I never really thought Keuchel was good...even when he was good. Fans should simply view this as an 8th starter that we need to press into actions due to injuries. If Hook somehow fixes Keuchel and he ends up being good even for a short strech, would it be fair for other teams to accuse us of voodoo magic?

[patrickgpe]

Didn't think he would be starting the day after he was acquired. I wonder if this is more of an opener thing than actually starting though. 

 

EDIT: Probably not, if Rea got pushed back to Friday. 

[LouisEly]

6 hours ago, EddieTheCousin said:

Is this the same player who really isn't that great without the sticky stuff and who also has pictures going around social over the past month that indicate he is romantically involved with his agent?

Please specify who you are talking about.

[homer]

let's move on from his personal life and focus on the baseball stuff. Thanks.

[pitchleague]

Well, One inning in….this trade was a WIN !!!!!!!!  🤪

[pitchleague]

Oops.  Spoke too soon! 😆

[torts]

Won his first game in the rotation, let's goooooo

[Underachiever]

13 hours ago, bigred said:

As a fan, it's WAY beyond frustrating, constantly being led to believe the organization is "going for it", then watching the team continually not actually go for it, and make a trade(s) to actually go for it. Especially with the stacked farm system we currently have. Can you say "gaslighting", because that's basically what they constantly do with our fan base. It's sort of like the old State Farm commercial, with the old guy with the fishing pole. 

The only “gaslighting” is from guys like you who watch a team go 48-33 and insist somehow that what they are doing is not working. There is no combination of moves that the Brewers can do to match up with the likes of what the Dodgers can put on the field. So they make incremental moves to try to improve the team. 

[Redd Vencher]

10 hours ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

Fully on board with this - they could even bring in one still in his pitching prime instead of one who has been washed up for several years.

Who's available that is still in their prime? The one you're vaguely referring to certainly isn't.