Are all the injuries possibly a blessing?

[B.F.-rakes]

We obviously went into season without Burnes(trade),Woodruff(shoulder surgery),Miley(elbow surgery), for 2024.Havent had Williams,Mitchell for first 3months.Junis,D l..Hall,Ross,Uribe for the majority of the year.So 4/5 of rotation, set up man,and a world class closer of 2024 projections.Yelich has missed 25games,Hoskins 23,and oh yea,we have a 1st year coach because the all time winning coach in franchise history back doored us and went to r most hated rival without warning. So what does Pat Murphy do,he brings in Hudson(4-0)(0.86era),Paredes(1-0)(1.23era),calls up Koenig(6-1)(1.77era),Gasser(2-0)(2.57era)&Meyers(5-2)(3.12era).Thats a combined(18-3),172 innings,171k combined for 4/5guys that didn't throw a pitch in majors in 2023.only Hudson pitched in 2023,only 8.2innings for Oakland. Megill is 16/17 in saves,with a 1.85era(28.1innings).b.Wilson is 4-3 and has thrown 67.2innings Peguero is 5-2 with a 2.90era,Payamps 3.86era with the 2 combining for 17holds,5saves and 59innings(51k's).On top of all this Murphy&Co has to make sure there developing the 20yr old Chourio,23yr old Black,the two  24yr Old's in Turang&Frelick and the suprising offense of breakout in 25yr old Ortiz.Murphy& staff has team leading all of mlb in steals,13 games over .500,,5game lead over 2nd place team,and best of all 9game lead over Cubs, as we r only 3games from the halfway point of the 2024 season.This is one of the best coaching jobs I have ever seen by an organization.So don't  get to critical when they fall apart because these pitchers that have been outstanding have very little experience pitching as many innings as they already have pitched.Need 2/3 of  Ross,Junis or Hall to stay healthy and log some innings after all star break

 

 

[Team Canada]

Can you use some spaces between your punctuation? It's hard to read.

[Playing Catch]

17 hours ago, B.F.-rakes said:

We obviously went into season without Burnes(trade),Woodruff(shoulder surgery),Miley(elbow surgery), for 2024.Havent had Williams,Mitchell for first 3months.Junis,D l..Hall,Ross,Uribe for the majority of the year.So 4/5 of rotation, set up man,and a world class closer of 2024 projections.Yelich has missed 25games,Hoskins 23,and oh yea,we have a 1st year coach because the all time winning coach in franchise history back doored us and went to r most hated rival without warning. So what does Pat Murphy do,he brings in Hudson(4-0)(0.86era),Paredes(1-0)(1.23era),calls up Koenig(6-1)(1.77era),Gasser(2-0)(2.57era)&Meyers(5-2)(3.12era).Thats a combined(18-3),172 innings,171k combined for 4/5guys that didn't throw a pitch in majors in 2023.only Hudson pitched in 2023,only 8.2innings for Oakland. Megill is 16/17 in saves,with a 1.85era(28.1innings).b.Wilson is 4-3 and has thrown 67.2innings Peguero is 5-2 with a 2.90era,Payamps 3.86era with the 2 combining for 17holds,5saves and 59innings(51k's).On top of all this Murphy&Co has to make sure there developing the 20yr old Chourio,23yr old Black,the two  24yr Old's in Turang&Frelick and the suprising offense of breakout in 25yr old Ortiz.Murphy& staff has team leading all of mlb in steals,13 games over .500,,5game lead over 2nd place team,and best of all 9game lead over Cubs, as we r only 3games from the halfway point of the 2024 season.This is one of the best coaching jobs I have ever seen by an organization.So don't  get to critical when they fall apart because these pitchers that have been outstanding have very little experience pitching as many innings as they already have pitched.Need 2/3 of  Ross,Junis or Hall to stay healthy and log some innings after all star break

 

 

In terms of the spirit of your post, I can see what you're saying. If I'm understanding correctly, you are basically saying that this season was always going to be a soft rebuild, and we may as well just appreciate the competitiveness this team has, and recognize that some of the young players have a chance to cut their teeth in the big leagues.

I agree with all of that.

[Outlander]

Mitchell left the game after a swing in the 9th, might not be coming back from the 60 day IL after all.

https://x.com/MiLB/status/1806042688569180477

 

[Underachiever]

7 minutes ago, Outlander said:

Mitchell left the game after a swing in the 9th, might not be coming back from the 60 day IL after all.

https://x.com/MiLB/status/1806042688569180477

 

Glass Mitchell. 

[yfinn6]

Ortiz hurt?! 

[Playing Catch]

1 hour ago, Outlander said:

Mitchell left the game after a swing in the 9th, might not be coming back from the 60 day IL after all.

https://x.com/MiLB/status/1806042688569180477

 

 

[BruisedCrew]

What did he do? Pull a hamstring swinging a bat?

[Brian]

19 hours ago, Underachiever said:

Glass Mitchell. 

I'm sure his constant injury issues have something to do with him being a Type 1 Diabetic since he was 9 years old.  But if he can ever stay healthy he will be a major force to be recon with. 

https://www.mlb.com/brewers/video/garrett-mitchell-s-two-home-run-game 

[CheezWizHed]

31 minutes ago, Brian said:

I'm sure his constant injury issues have something to do with him being a Type 1 Diabetic since he was 9 years old.  But if he can ever stay healthy he will be a major force to be recon with. 

https://www.mlb.com/brewers/video/garrett-mitchell-s-two-home-run-game 

We've heard this since he was drafted, but I've never quite put together the relationship.  I'm not familiar with the side effects diabetes has on the body.  If his blood sugar is managed, wouldn't the rest of the system function normally? Or is there more too it?  

Anyone care to explain?  

[yourout]

20 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

We've heard this since he was drafted, but I've never quite put together the relationship.  I'm not familiar with the side effects diabetes has on the body.  If his blood sugar is managed, wouldn't the rest of the system function normally? Or is there more too it?  

Anyone care to explain?  

I am a type 2 and when I fall off the wagon and let my BS get out of control things do not heal very quickly and bruise more easily. 

Can only imagine what type ones go through. I can very easily see it making you more prone to injury.

[Brian]

13 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

We've heard this since he was drafted, but I've never quite put together the relationship.  I'm not familiar with the side effects diabetes has on the body.  If his blood sugar is managed, wouldn't the rest of the system function normally? Or is there more too it?  

Anyone care to explain?  

Type II Diabetes is when your body makes some insulin when needed so all you have to do is take Metformin.

Type I Diabetes is when your body makes zero insulin and is fatal if not constantly monitored. 

Also Type I can lead to kidney failure and many other health issues like wound healing and circulation problems. 

[CheezWizHed]

So in youth, is it more about managing insulin levels? Or even if the insulin is managed there can/will be problems? 

I'd imagine that a pro athlete would make sure to manage the insulin.  I'm more curious if it is being managed that there is still high risk or not.  There are plenty of injury prone people out there without diabetes.  

[ClosetBrewerFan]

Th types of injuries Mitchell has had (strains, shoulder, etc) would not be made worse by having diabetes.  Its more about bruises not healing quickly.  I have bruises on my legs that linger for over a year. 

Managing insulin is tricky as its hard to estimate how much insulin to inject as its more than just carb count. What you have eaten greatly affects your insulin response. Its easier now with continuous blood glucose monitors which are placed on the back of your arm.  I'm just not sure an athlete could use one since they are pretty easy to get knocked off.  Sliding/diving would be pretty much impossible. Its literally a thin needle stuck in your arm, so would not be fun to have that get knocked off. I'd assume he had have to use finger sticks to test his glucose level, which is harder to keep insulin under control.

[stalton]

As a type 1 diabetic for most of my life, I agree with the above statements. Diabetes is an autoimmune disorder.  Like Closet said, cut, bruises take forever to heal because the immune response just sucks. It's why colds can last longer, it's why diabetics are more susceptible to other diseases. 

All this would not affect getting injured but it's certainly possible it's affecting recovery time. There are tons of increased probabilities but never any definitive times where you can 100% blame it on the Diabetes 

[thebruce44]

18 minutes ago, stalton said:

As a type 1 diabetic for most of my life, I agree with the above statements. Diabetes is an autoimmune disorder.  Like Closet said, cut, bruises take forever to heal because the immune response just sucks. It's why colds can last longer, it's why diabetics are more susceptible to other diseases. 

All this would not affect getting injured but it's certainly possible it's affecting recovery time. There are tons of increased probabilities but never any definitive times where you can 100% blame it on the Diabetes 

Being a diabetic sounds really rough. I'm sorry you guys have to go through all that.

That being said, I'm not sure I follow the logic that a condition that causes things to heal slower wouldn't have an impact on a MLB player trying to make it through 162 games. I think a lot of times "spot" injuries, like a strain, are more likely to happen with tired muscles. If he recovers slower, I could easily see that leading to more injuries.

I'm not a doctor though, just my 2 cents. I agree that you can't 100% blame it on anything though.

[yourout]

5 hours ago, stalton said:

As a type 1 diabetic for most of my life, I agree with the above statements. Diabetes is an autoimmune disorder.  Like Closet said, cut, bruises take forever to heal because the immune response just sucks. It's why colds can last longer, it's why diabetics are more susceptible to other diseases. 

All this would not affect getting injured but it's certainly possible it's affecting recovery time. There are tons of increased probabilities but never any definitive times where you can 100% blame it on the Diabetes 

As much as I have a miserable time dealing with being a type 2 I can really feel for what you guys have to go through. 

As I like to say uncontrolled type 2 diabetes will kill you in years uncontrolled type one diabetes will kill you in days.

[Brian]

9 hours ago, thebruce44 said:

Being a diabetic sounds really rough. I'm sorry you guys have to go through all that.

That being said, I'm not sure I follow the logic that a condition that causes things to heal slower wouldn't have an impact on a MLB player trying to make it through 162 games. I think a lot of times "spot" injuries, like a strain, are more likely to happen with tired muscles. If he recovers slower, I could easily see that leading to more injuries.

I'm not a doctor though, just my 2 cents. I agree that you can't 100% blame it on anything though.

Diabetes can cause wounds to heal more slowly due to a number of factors, including:

• Poor circulation

  High blood sugar levels can thicken and narrow blood vessels, making it harder for blood to reach wounds and deliver oxygen and nutrients. This is especially common in the lower limbs, which are further from the heart.
• Microvascular disease

  Diabetes can cause microvascular disease that impairs blood flow and can lead to poor wound perfusion.
• Hyperglycemia

  High blood sugar can also lead to osmotic diuresis, which can decrease oxygenation and perfusion. Hyperglycemia can also increase the risk of wound infection, which can decrease healing.
• Weakened immune system

  High blood sugar can stress the body and make the immune system work harder, including white blood cells. Diabetic patients also have slower moving white blood cells than the average person, which can lead to a reduced immune response.
• Peripheral neuropathy

  This condition can reduce feeling in the feet, making it difficult to feel cuts or injuries that can lead to blisters or sores. 

   

   

[BrewerFan]

On 6/28/2024 at 8:51 AM, CheezWizHed said:

So in youth, is it more about managing insulin levels? Or even if the insulin is managed there can/will be problems? 

I'd imagine that a pro athlete would make sure to manage the insulin.  I'm more curious if it is being managed that there is still high risk or not.  There are plenty of injury prone people out there without diabetes.  

I played HS FB with a guy who had type 1 and he went on to be a really good College FB player. Big physical TE. It was D3...but that's still brutal. I know he got invited to some regional combines, but I don't think he was really pursuing it. Maybe this is why. 

Newfound respect for a guy I already had a lot of respect for. 

[patrickgpe]

No

[bigred]

On 6/27/2024 at 10:50 AM, yourout said:

I am a type 2 and when I fall off the wagon and let my BS get out of control things do not heal very quickly and bruise more easily. 

Can only imagine what type ones go through. I can very easily see it making you more 

 

[KeithStone53151]

As for the spirit of the original post, this season so far is head and shoulders above my expectations. Every injury is an opportunity for another player, and a lot of players from the system stepped up in a big way. It's really helping that some of the young position players broke out in a big way, it hides a lot of our issues when the offense can get a lead and a loaded bullpen can hold it for 4-5 innings quite often.