Article: 2024 MLB Draft Day 1 Thread

[Redd Vencher]

8 minutes ago, Never Outhustled said:

 It's better than Corey Ray or Eric Brown

Eric Brown was underslot, so the Brewers could go way overslot on Misiorowski.

[CheeseheadInQC]

3 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

Are there any examples of the Brewers going totally off the board in the early rounds and it working out because I can't think of any.

I don’t know if it was off the board, but I can remember a fair amount of complaints about the Jimmy Nelson pick, albeit for the opposite reason (perceived lack of upside).

[Jenkins5]

4 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

They've outsmarted themselves.

I'm going to hold all judgement, sit back and just enjoy Tod Johnson cooking in his own unique way. He's shown he is pretty darn solid at his job. Draft classes tend to look much better in future than on draft day. MLB draft is mostly a crap shoot, def outside of having a top pick. Find the guys you believe in and then develop crap out of them. 

[Playing Catch]

Who knows how it will work out, but let's say he signed for $2M under (roughly the equivalent of the 35th pick)... Then, let's say they sign 4 players for 2.5 million each? (roughly the equivalent of having four comp-round picks).

Would that be better? Perhaps. That might be where the value is at... but I have no idea.

Like others have said... after last year's draft (and international scouting), this organization has earned some BF-bucks.

[ecjimg]

Their draft was so good last year that they earned some “slack”.  I don’t like the pick but I won’t say it was stupid.

[Jenkins5]

1 minute ago, CheeseheadInQC said:

I don’t know if it was off the board, but I can remember a fair amount of complaints about the Jimmy Nelson pick.

In First? I can't think of any but O'Rae was like completely unknown in 3rd. Can't complain about the return so far on that.

[duewizard]

Is there anything baseball fans love doing more than overreact? Chill guys there's over 20 selections to go and we are saving money to make a lot of good picks a la Yoho, etc

[Bulldogboy]

 This organization needs to prioritize pitching. Lots of good arms were on the board there. 

[wiguy94]

2 minutes ago, Playing Catch said:

Who knows how it will work out, but let's say he signed for $2M under (roughly the equivalent of the 35th pick)... Then, let's say they sign 4 players for 2.5 million each? (roughly the equivalent of having four comp-round picks).

Would that be better? Perhaps. That might be where the value is at... but I have no idea.

Like others have said... after last year's draft (and international scouting), this organization has earned some BF-bucks.

Seems like he might go even more under slot than that. I've seen him mostly in the 50-90 range on big boards. Paying him 34's slot value might even be more than he would get.

[wiguy94]

1 minute ago, Bulldogboy said:

 This organization needs to prioritize pitching. Lots of good arms were on the board there. 

Pitching is the present strength of the farm system

[LouisEly]

19 minutes ago, snoogans8056 said:

This has to indicate a heavily HS draft class. That rookie ball team next year is gonna be STACKED.

If we offer him 34 pick money, we are looking at $2 mil in savings there alone.

That's it.  And if something unexpected happens, a guy not signing or a medical condition pops up (a la Dylan Covey), they lose less slot value and can reallocate the bonus pool to a number of other HS guys.

But, yeah, gotta be $2M savings here and some HS kid they're buying down to #67 or #93.

[LouisEly]

1 minute ago, wiguy94 said:

Pitching is the present strength of the farm system

Only 4 of MLB.com's top 13 and 11 of the top 30 are pitchers so I don't really agree with that.

[snoogans8056]

 

Just now, LouisEly said:

Only 4 of MLB.com's top 13 and 11 of the top 30 are pitchers so I don't really agree with that.

I think our current arms are extremely undervalued. Weren’t sexy draft picks, but we’ve got guys that produce.

[wiguy94]

Just now, LouisEly said:

Only 4 of MLB.com's top 13 and 11 of the top 30 are pitchers so I don't really agree with that.

Pipeline's list isn't updated. It's from the preseason. 

[sveumrules]

Some speculation from Longenhagen in the FG chat..,

“Sloan's number was big, like 4 mil (heard this today) so I'm not sure anyone will take him unless it's MIL in the comp“

[Redd Vencher]

Slot value for pick number 53 is $1.72 M while pick 17 is $4.53 M. If he's willing to sign for 53rd type money that's $2.81 M to spread across the rest of the draft. Maybe he was willing to go for $1.5 M then you have $3 M to spread across the rest of the draft.

[Never Outhustled]

13 minutes ago, Redd Vencher said:

Eric Brown was underslot, so the Brewers could go way overslot on Misiorowski.

Sure, but still a bad hitter and pick

[Oxy]

I would say that pitching is the strength of the FO/upper end coaching, i.e. it's much easier for this organization to find 25 year old reclamation projects and turn them into productive MLBers than it is to draft 17-20 year old kids and develop them.  They are more confident in their scouting of hitters that are draft eligible.

[Redd Vencher]

Just now, Never Outhustled said:

Sure, but still a bad hitter and pick

If Misiorowski turns into the ace the Brewers think he can be, it's not a bad pick. The Brewers under Stearns are a top 7 drafting org with the current results from his drafts against the rest of the drafts during his tenure. Nearly half of that is just Burnes' 20+ fWAR. With Turang, Ashby, Fry, and Olson, his 2018 draft could end up overtaking the 2016 draft with Burnes. Sucks half of the producers are in other orgs.

[LouisEly]

4 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Some speculation from Longenhagen in the FG chat..,

“Sloan's number was big, like 4 mil (heard this today) so I'm not sure anyone will take him unless it's MIL in the comp“

He's the HS pitcher I liked the most.  If the Brewers went $2M under at #17, and if they save another $600K the rest of the top 10 rounds plus $650K in overage, they can get to $4M at pick #93.

Not really a stretch at all.

[Bulldogboy]

19 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Pitching is the present strength of the farm system

Based on what? The cupboard isn't bare but also we signed Dallas Kuechel so we could use some more imo.

[Never Outhustled]

23 minutes ago, duewizard said:

Is there anything baseball fans love doing more than overreact? Chill guys there's over 20 selections to go and we are saving money to make a lot of good picks a la Yoho, etc

Yoho was a great pick, but it had absolutely nothing to do with having extra money. Use examples like Pratt.

[Never Outhustled]

8 minutes ago, Redd Vencher said:

If Misiorowski turns into the ace the Brewers think he can be, it's not a bad pick. The Brewers under Stearns are a top 7 drafting org with the current results from his drafts against the rest of the drafts during his tenure. Nearly half of that is just Burnes' 20+ fWAR. With Turang, Ashby, Fry, and Olson, his 2018 draft could end up overtaking the 2016 draft with Burnes. Sucks half of the producers are in other orgs.

The idea is to identify undervalued players to pick early, not to just throw a pick away. Heck, we could just draft a senior in round 1 and save more than we saved on Brown.

[wiguy94]

2 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

Based on what? The cupboard isn't bare but also we signed Dallas Kuechel so we could use some more imo.

Based on paying attention to the system? Just because they don't have any MLB ready SP prospects doesn't mean the farm system doesn't have a bunch of interesting pitching prospects.

[Redd Vencher]

Just now, Never Outhustled said:

The idea is to identify undervalued players to pick early, not to just throw a pick away. Heck, we could just draft a senior in round 1 and save more than we saved on Brown.

Sure, but Brown was viewed as a player roughly close to where the Brewers selected him. They weren't trying to throw away the pick. Wilken was ranked right around where we drafted him, and he was willing to sign underslot. They took guys they liked where they're generally viewed by the industry should go, and the fact they were willing to sign for less is a big factor in why they drafted them.