Dodgers (TBD) vs Brewers (Montas): 8/14/24, 7:10pm

[yourout]

7 hours ago, RobertCrawley said:

Was at the game tonight. Wow, was that exciting seeing Devin face the heart of the Dodgers lineup in the 9th and shut them down. Yes, we've had our postseason struggles, and maybe we have them again this year, but tonight was a great night to be Brewers fan.

I stopped watching in the 9th and just followed it on game day. My nerves were about shot

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

9 hours ago, Bulldogboy said:

Really? Wow. Kinda makes it worse imo. Who is going to give a guy a hard time with his kids there? It is really really bad form. I don't get why they are they.

Because it's baseball. It's a kids game.

[edfunderburk]

9 hours ago, Bulldogboy said:

Murphy with the grandkids at the presser again. It definitely gives an air of game doesn't matter much look family is here. Also Pirates losing 10 straight with Skenes is hard to do.

Those are his kids - not his grandkids 

[TURBO]

9 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

Hilarious considering you're one of the people that said Megill should stay the closer.

lol

You are taking any comment I made out of context.  As I already said, some were saying he should remain closer until Williams was ready to take that role back again.

Megill was doing a great job, there was no reason to thrust Williams back into the closer role until he was feeling comfortable again.

But you already know that, just doesn't fit your narrative.

[Brian]

9 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

Oh there were definitely some that wanted Megill to stay the closer. 

There is room for both, just like back when we had both Hader and Williams.  Also,  I'm not even sure either one is at 100% right now both with the back issues. 

[Brewcrew82]

25 minutes ago, TURBO said:

lol

You are taking any comment I made out of context.  As I already said, some were saying he should remain closer until Williams was ready to take that role back again.

Megill was doing a great job, there was no reason to thrust Williams back into the closer role until he was feeling comfortable again.

But you already know that, just doesn't fit your narrative.

This seems like a bit of gaslighting as it relates to your comment. 

I just read through that whole thread and there is precisely zero context missing. You said nothing in that post or in preceding or subsequent posts about injuries or feeling comfortable again. In fact, you admitted that it was going to be an “unpopular” opinion, whereas the alternative of giving Devin some time to reacclimate wasn’t as controversial. 

It’s okay to admit you were wrong. We all make bad takes from time to time. 

[Nola Beery]

Wow. I just caught the highlights and summary. Weird game; great win! Way to go Devin.

[jay87shot]

Great win, after a disaster of a 1st especially not scoring with bases load and no outs. This team has some major grit to it. 

[MoreTrife]

Random Devin Williams question: How is he so effective? This could probably also be a Mariano Rivera question. Devin has two pitches, Mariano basically one. I get that if you are looking fastball and his Bugs Bunny changeup comes, you're done. Or vice versa. But if you guess changeup and he throws it, isn't it going to be trouble? ANd vice versa? Or is the change still super difficult to hit even if you know it is coming? And for Rivera, with just the cutter, don't you get a feel for what a strike looks like? I've never played baseball at a high level so I have no idea. 

[wiguy94]

1 hour ago, TURBO said:

lol

You are taking any comment I made out of context.  As I already said, some were saying he should remain closer until Williams was ready to take that role back again.

Megill was doing a great job, there was no reason to thrust Williams back into the closer role until he was feeling comfortable again.

But you already know that, just doesn't fit your narrative.

Nowhere in that comment does it say DW should be eased back. You just straight up said Megill has earned being the closer.

[Brewcrew82]

8 minutes ago, MoreTrife said:

Random Devin Williams question: How is he so effective? This could probably also be a Mariano Rivera question. Devin has two pitches, Mariano basically one. I get that if you are looking fastball and his Bugs Bunny changeup comes, you're done. Or vice versa. But if you guess changeup and he throws it, isn't it going to be trouble? ANd vice versa? Or is the change still super difficult to hit even if you know it is coming? And for Rivera, with just the cutter, don't you get a feel for what a strike looks like? I've never played baseball at a high level so I have no idea. 

I think something that's often overlooked about Devin due to the airbender is the incredible extension to the plate he generates. As a result, 95 looks closer to 100. Just impossible to deal with that when you already have to look out for arguably the filthiest pitch in recent history. And, as you say, the airbender due to its movement and velocity is still super difficult to hit even when you're looking for it. 

[wiguy94]

1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I think something that's often overlooked about Devin due to the airbender is the incredible extension to the plate he generates. As a result, 95 looks closer to 100. Just impossible to deal with that when you already have to look out for arguably the filthiest pitch in recent history. And, as you say, the airbender due to its movement and velocity is still super difficult to hit even when you're looking for it. 

Yeah his FB is a very underrated pitch by the fanbase. It's a very good pitch in its own right (that he's gotten quite good at commanding over the years btw) and when you factor in guys need to be focusing on his changeup it plays even more up. He's just got a plus FB that plays double plus because of the changeup and an 80 grade changeup. 

Just for comparison's sake. Yoho's changeup that everyone has been raving about has the same horizontal movement and 6-7 more inches of vertical movement despite throwing his changeup 6-7 mph slower than DW. DW's changeup is and will forever be a circus pitch. That combo of spin, velo, movement out of a RHP hand just shouldn't be possible.

[markedman5]

I also think that sometimes a pitch……when executed properly…..is so good…..hitters can’t hit it even when they know it’s coming.

 

Devin has made great hitters look bad…..time after time…….he gets them to take fastballs with plenty of the plate for strikes………and swing late at fastballs because the change up is in their heads.

[Brian]

2 hours ago, MoreTrife said:

Random Devin Williams question: How is he so effective? This could probably also be a Mariano Rivera question. Devin has two pitches, Mariano basically one. I get that if you are looking fastball and his Bugs Bunny changeup comes, you're done. Or vice versa. But if you guess changeup and he throws it, isn't it going to be trouble? ANd vice versa? Or is the change still super difficult to hit even if you know it is coming? And for Rivera, with just the cutter, don't you get a feel for what a strike looks like? I've never played baseball at a high level so I have no idea. 

I think he just keeps hitters off balance with his air-bender and fastball. 

[BruisedCrew]

1 hour ago, wiguy94 said:

Nowhere in that comment does it say DW should be eased back. You just straight up said Megill has earned being the closer.

It always interesting to see how different people can see the exact same words and have a significantly different interpretation of them.

When I saw the comment about Megill “earning the opportunity” to remain the closer I didn’t take it as saying Megill should be handed the closer role even after Williams was ready to go. 

My general reaction was to not worry about what might happen several weeks in the future unless and until a decision has to be made. As it turns out there never was a decision to be made because of Megill landing on the IL. 

[tmwiese55]

His changeup moves much more than a normal changeup that is just about being slower.  His changeup borders on knuckleball type movement at times.

But yea the overall point by OP on this topic is something I said about Rivera for years.  A cutter fastball is a normal pitch, how he could be that dominant with just that blew my mind.

[wiguy94]

1 hour ago, BruisedCrew said:

It always interesting to see how different people can see the exact same words and have a significantly different interpretation of them.

When I saw the comment about Megill “earning the opportunity” to remain the closer I didn’t take it as saying Megill should be handed the closer role even after Williams was ready to go. 

My general reaction was to not worry about what might happen several weeks in the future unless and until a decision has to be made. As it turns out there never was a decision to be made because of Megill landing on the IL. 

More gaslighting.

[BruisedCrew]

55 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

More gaslighting.

BS.

I’m telling you how I interpreted and responded to that comment. 

How is that gaslighting?
 

[Brewcrew82]

42 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

BS.

I’m telling you how I interpreted and responded to that comment. 

How is that gaslighting?
 

The BS lies with your "interpretation". 

[BruisedCrew]

32 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

The BS lies with your "interpretation". 

I apologize.

I didn’t realize you can read my mind 

If you look at my  response at the time I didn’t say that I disagreed with Megill having an opportunity to close, but just that it was a decision to be made later based on circumstances at the time. 

Regardless I generally don’t  appreciate being called a liar, though I do consider the source. 

[Brewcrew82]

29 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

I apologize.

I didn’t realize you can read my mind 

If you look at my  response at the time I didn’t say that I disagreed with Megill having an opportunity to close, but just that it was a decision to be made later based on circumstances at the time. 

Regardless I generally don’t  appreciate being called a liar, though I do consider the source. 

And you should realize that we consider the source likewise.

Particularly when it conflicts with any common-sense reading of that post.