Playoff Roster?

[wiguy94]

1 minute ago, nate82 said:

MLB commissioner office needs to approve these additions and they are normally because of an injury.  Both Murphy and Luzardo replaced a player who were on the 60-day IL in 2019.  So it would be possible but not guaranteed the commissioner office could deny the Brewers.  

Again the rule is basically irrelevant. If you're in the org before 8/31 you will be playoff eligible. That's all that matters.

[thebruce44]

1 hour ago, nate82 said:

I don’t believe Yoho or Misio will be on the playoff roster.  The Brewers would have to add both to the 40-man roster by Saturday or they will be ineligible.

I also don’t believe Myers will be a starter in the playoffs.  He will be in the bullpen.  He may also wind up in the bullpen in September due to innings.

I believe Civale or Montas will take the #3 spot over Myers.  

I was thinking this too, but with 3/4 starts left he's at 108 IP. Last year he hit 140, so I'd think the Brewers are looking at 160 as the cutoff? If they want to keep him a starter through the early stages of the playoffs, I think they will.

[wiguy94]

2 minutes ago, thebruce44 said:

I was thinking this too, but with 3/4 starts left he's at 108 IP. Last year he hit 140, so I'd think the Brewers are looking at 160 as the cutoff? If they want to keep him a starter through the early stages of the playoffs, I think they will.

Myers is at 127 IP not 108. He threw 18.2 innings in AAA. so only about 2 starts away from hitting last years total. I agree it's not a huge deal. You can skip a start in September if you're too worried but he should be good to go 160-170 IP.

Also worth noting he threw 2321 pitches in 2023 and is at 1953 pitches in 2024 so if you're just looking at raw pitch numbers he has like 4 starts worth of pitches before he hits last years pitch total

[nate82]

12 minutes ago, thebruce44 said:

I was thinking this too, but with 3/4 starts left he's at 108 IP. Last year he hit 140, so I'd think the Brewers are looking at 160 as the cutoff? If they want to keep him a starter through the early stages of the playoffs, I think they will.

He is also wearing down a bit.  His last two starts he has been very erratic with his control.  He maybe starting to hit the brick wall as he gets closer and closer to his innings pitched last year.

[Playing Catch]

Performance aside, I don't believe that Myers needs to be monitored that closely for IPs. He threw nearly 140 last season. He's 26. I guess I don't buy that the "adding 20 IPs every season," is a hard rule based on science, but rather an arbitrary number that organizations have established.

[Brewcrew82]

Updated WC roster preference with a week to go:

C: Contreras, Sanchez, Haase

IF: Hoskins, Turang, Adames, Ortiz, Monasterio, Black

OF: Chourio, Mitchell, Frelick, Perkins 

SP: Peralta, Myers, Montas

RP: Williams, Megill, Payamps, Koenig, Ashby, Hudson, Hall, Ross, Milner, Rea/Mears

So, I'm recalling Black and giving him a week's worth of ABs to see where he's at in light of his multi-homer weekend. I can't say I'd have less confidence in him than in Winker last year, for example, so he's on my roster. Collins despite his versatility hasn't shown enough at the plate to justify having him on the roster.

Pitching side of things is pretty straightforward now that it's clear Mis and Yoho aren't coming up. Last roster spot imo is between Rea and Mears. Rea picked up that save against the Phillies, but otherwise he's been terrible lately serving up gopher balls at will, and his stuff is only going to play down in the postseason. Mears' stuff on the other hand could play up, so if he can get some game action this week I think he could take that last spot. I could also see Civale cracking the roster, but without a history of pitching out of the pen I think they'll save him for a possible start in the NLDS.

[StearnsFTW]

3 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Updated WC roster preference with a week to go:

C: Contreras, Sanchez, Haase

IF: Hoskins, Turang, Adames, Ortiz, Monasterio, Black

OF: Chourio, Mitchell, Frelick, Perkins 

SP: Peralta, Myers, Montas

RP: Williams, Megill, Payamps, Koenig, Ashby, Hudson, Hall, Ross, Milner, Rea/Mears

So, I'm recalling Black and giving him a week's worth of ABs to see where he's at in light of his multi-homer weekend. I can't say I'd have less confidence in him than in Winker last year, for example, so he's on my roster. Collins despite his versatility hasn't shown enough at the plate to justify having him on the roster.

Pitching side of things is pretty straightforward now that it's clear Mis and Yoho aren't coming up. Last roster spot imo is between Rea and Mears. Rea picked up that save against the Phillies, but otherwise he's been terrible lately serving up gopher balls at will, and his stuff is only going to play down in the postseason. Mears' stuff on the other hand could play up, so if he can get some game action this week I think he could take that last spot. I could also see Civale cracking the roster, but without a history of pitching out of the pen I think they'll save him for a possible start in the NLDS.

Pretty much agree with your roster,, but I'd  go Bauers over Black.

[wiguy94]

3 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Updated WC roster preference with a week to go:

C: Contreras, Sanchez, Haase

IF: Hoskins, Turang, Adames, Ortiz, Monasterio, Black

OF: Chourio, Mitchell, Frelick, Perkins 

SP: Peralta, Myers, Montas

RP: Williams, Megill, Payamps, Koenig, Ashby, Hudson, Hall, Ross, Milner, Rea/Mears

So, I'm recalling Black and giving him a week's worth of ABs to see where he's at in light of his multi-homer weekend. I can't say I'd have less confidence in him than in Winker last year, for example, so he's on my roster. Collins despite his versatility hasn't shown enough at the plate to justify having him on the roster.

Pitching side of things is pretty straightforward now that it's clear Mis and Yoho aren't coming up. Last roster spot imo is between Rea and Mears. Rea picked up that save against the Phillies, but otherwise he's been terrible lately serving up gopher balls at will, and his stuff is only going to play down in the postseason. Mears' stuff on the other hand could play up, so if he can get some game action this week I think he could take that last spot. I could also see Civale cracking the roster, but without a history of pitching out of the pen I think they'll save him for a possible start in the NLDS.

Kind of just dawned on me how LHP heavy our middle relievers are. Williams and Megill locked into 8th and 9th innings leaves just Payamps, Ross, and one of Mears/Rea/Civale for our non-8th/9th inning RHP. Definitely makes you wish we had called up Misiorowski at some point. All of our WC opponents are better against LHP and all of them only have 3 LHP on their active roster.

wRC+ vs LHP

NYM - 120 wRC+ (107 vs RHP)
ARI - 119 wRC+ (113 vs RHP)
ATL - 114 wRC+ (95 vs RHP)

LHH on their active roster

NYM - 3
ARI - 3
ATL - 3

[Outlander]

As bad as the bottom of the position group is you don't really see 13 pitchers in the Wild Card round so won't see 5 lefties on the Brewers roster.

[Brewcrew82]

19 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

Kind of just dawned on me how LHP heavy our middle relievers are. Williams and Megill locked into 8th and 9th innings leaves just Payamps, Ross, and one of Mears/Rea/Civale for our non-8th/9th inning RHP. Definitely makes you wish we had called up Misiorowski at some point. All of our WC opponents are better against LHP and all of them only have 3 LHP on their active roster.

wRC+ vs LHP

NYM - 120 wRC+ (107 vs RHP)
ARI - 119 wRC+ (113 vs RHP)
ATL - 114 wRC+ (95 vs RHP)

LHH on their active roster

NYM - 3
ARI - 3
ATL - 3

If the Tigers can call up Jobe for the final week….Still have a 40 man spot open.

 

[Brewcrew82]

Overall, you have to feel pretty confident that at least someone is coming up from Nashville for tomorrow’s game with the conclusion of their season.

Could be any of Hudson, Black, Patrick, or Misiorowski. Misiorowski being the least likely. 

[Playing Catch]

I hope it's Patrick. I'm not sure that I feel really strongly about his future as a Brewer, but goodness, has he deserved the chance.

[kestrel79]

Does calling Mis up affect his service time if he plays in Sept or in the Playoffs? No? They must be watching his innings closely playing the long game. But man would be nice to have someone like that come up and give the pen a shot in the arm. 

[Outlander]

He would get a week of service time so would delay being called up next year a little bit so not really. They may regret at least experimenting with a better RHP, they always could have left him off the playoff roster if they didn't like what they saw. I don't want to see someobdy like Mears in the playoffs giving up another HR or Peguero coming in with the bases loaded. One more better option at RHP would have been nice. Fortunately Ross has stepped it up in relief.

[RobertCrawley]

We've been great this year, but this is the time of season when we're especially going to miss an ace.

[Brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, RobertCrawley said:

We've been great this year, but this is the time of season when we're especially going to miss an ace.

I would tend to agree, but having an ace didn't exactly do us much good last year. 

[RobertCrawley]

5 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I would tend to agree, but having an ace didn't exactly do us much good last year. 

That is true.

The hope will be that our guys will pitch like aces, which they sometimes have.

[tmwiese55]

23 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I would tend to agree, but having an ace didn't exactly do us much good last year. 

That's been a kind of wisecrack or 'positive' thing I've been joking with as the year has gone on.   The last few years we've had the correct formula with the 2 legit ace pitchers, and a solid 3rd one too, plus elite BP.  That is supposedly the playoff formula right, and we flamed out every year in 1st round with it.  This year, lose the 2 aces and they'll somehow win it all.  Because that's how baseball is 

[CheezWizHed]

1 minute ago, tmwiese55 said:

That's been a kind of wisecrack or 'positive' thing I've been joking with as the year has gone on.   The last few years we've had the correct formula with the 2 legit ace pitchers, and a solid 3rd one too, plus elite BP.  That is supposedly the playoff formula right, and we flamed out every year in 1st round with it.  This year, lose the 2 aces and they'll somehow win it all.  Because that's how baseball is 

I'll take that!

I'll also take sweeping AZ and the Dodgers to atone for past post-season failures. 😉

[Brewcrew82]

Group of players staying fresh and ready in Arizona: Hudson, Misiorowski, Peguero, Henderson, Black, Capra, Hicklen. 

https://www.mlb.com/brewers/news/willy-adames-brewers-beat-pirates-prepare-for-playoffs

[folly412]

Would expect them to want an appearance from Hudson before the playoffs.  Probably get Herget out in relief today or tomorrow -> Rodriguez either in extended relief or starting Fri/Sat -> Hudson Sat/Sun.

[Playing Catch]

I wonder if the Brewers just don't want to mess with what has been a very good season for Misiorowski. Putting him in the bullpen this last month or so was probably always in the cards to try and limit innings. And if they needed him to pitch in September and the playoffs, he'd be ready to do so.

I would be concerned for his long-term success if he came up and got knocked around, or walked the bases loaded in the playoffs or something like that. In some ways, it's not fair to bring him up now. Had they brought him up a month ago, then great, but to make one's debut at this point would be tough.

[StearnsFTW]

On 9/24/2024 at 11:39 AM, Brewcrew82 said:

I would tend to agree, but having an ace didn't exactly do us much good last year. 

Only time we made any real noise Jhoulys Chacin was our ace.

 

 

[BrewCrewBlueDevil]

Playoff Bullpen Game? How nasty would this be......

Ashby (1st and 2nd)

Ross 3rd and 4th)

Hudson (5th)

Payamps (6th)

Koenig (7th)

Megill (8th)

Williams (9th)

 

[Brian]

I would hate to see Aaron Civale not to make the postseason roster even as a long relief man.  Last 7 games a 2.95 ERA sure would be hard for me to bypass.  He is one of our hottest pitchers right now.