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I don't know whether Just Baseball counts as a "major publication," but I've gotten kind of addicted to their analysis, and they love them some Brewers.  Their latest update:

7.  Made

12.  Pena

20.  Mis

32.  Quero

52.  Pratt

94. Bitonti

https://www.justbaseball.com/prospects/top-100-mlb-prospects/

Bitonti has slid from their preseason list, and Quero hasn't moved much.  All the others are big risers (they're less high than everyone else on Pratt).

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I'm not remotely concerned, but if Mis had kept dealing like he was for a solid month I'd definitely feel like he was systematically under rated on these lists. But the last couple of outings are just a reminder that pitchers are so unpredictable individually.

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Baseball America just did a big Top 30 update for every org.

Risers - Henderson, Pena (obviously), Wilken

Fallers - Bitonti, Hunt

Additions - Adamczewski, Hardin, Dinges

Henderson made a huge jump from 20th to 6th.

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BA having Antunez at #10 is surprising to me. Is this because of the Brewers LA reputation or is he another gem?

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2 hours ago, wallus said:

BA having Antunez at #10 is surprising to me. Is this because of the Brewers LA reputation or is he another gem?

Some scouts think he's the best player from Venezuela in the IFA class so that's why the high ranking. Personally I just don't read much into the IFA rankings before the guys start playing games. Made and Pena weren't considered great prospects heading into their IFA signings and today both are Top 100 prospects with Made as high as Top 5 and Pena as high as Top 30.

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On 6/5/2025 at 8:05 PM, markedman5 said:

Pipeline seems a little slower to fall,in love with the Brewers prospects then some others.

Pena now number 100 

 

Mlb pipeline just doesn't upgrade there rankings ever. Last week I read an article that they "updated" the rankings but in reality they just add Josh A. to 16 when Collins lost prospect status. They only rerank players like in August after the draft and in the offseason.

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Via the Journal Sentinel Podcast (recorded on June 20th): "In this special episode of Microbrew, Journal Sentinel reporter Curt Hogg and host JR Radcliffe take a deep dive into the Brewers farm system, a talent-rich territory that Curt recently profiled with his prospect rankings at jsonline.com. They discuss the top tier stars Jesús Made and Luis Peña. What makes them special, and is 18 years old too early to identify greatness? They discuss the next tier of players (Cooper Pratt, Jeferson Quero), the controversial prospects who could go either way (Braylon Payne, Brock Wilken, Eric Bitonti) and the players who could potentially help the Brewers this season (Anthony Siegler). Does the pitching dry up after Jacob Misiorowski and Logan Henderson? What about the new names to know, like Brailyn Antunez? Who aren't we talking about enough?

Then, JR has interviews with three players discussed, Wisconsin Timber Rattlers players Bishop Letson, Blake Burke and Marco Dinges. They discuss their baseball journeys and Dinges and Burke re-live an epic College World Series against each other just last year."

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7 hours ago, Jim Goulart said:

Via the Journal Sentinel Podcast (recorded on June 20th): "In this special episode of Microbrew, Journal Sentinel reporter Curt Hogg and host JR Radcliffe take a deep dive into the Brewers farm system, a talent-rich territory that Curt recently profiled with his prospect rankings at jsonline.com. They discuss the top tier stars Jesús Made and Luis Peña. What makes them special, and is 18 years old too early to identify greatness? They discuss the next tier of players (Cooper Pratt, Jeferson Quero), the controversial prospects who could go either way (Braylon Payne, Brock Wilken, Eric Bitonti) and the players who could potentially help the Brewers this season (Anthony Siegler). Does the pitching dry up after Jacob Misiorowski and Logan Henderson? What about the new names to know, like Brailyn Antunez? Who aren't we talking about enough?

Then, JR has interviews with three players discussed, Wisconsin Timber Rattlers players Bishop Letson, Blake Burke and Marco Dinges. They discuss their baseball journeys and Dinges and Burke re-live an epic College World Series against each other just last year."

And a shoutout to Spencer at the end (before the interviews). We are blessed to have him.

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I've watched the Mudcats play in approximately 30 games this year.  My assessment:

1.  Neither Made or Pena will stick at SS - neither are pure infielders.  Pena, possibly at 3B, Made is going to be an outfielder, possibly 2B.  The Brewers will keep them in dirt (perceived value) but the chance of them playing SS at the highest level doesn't exist.

2.  The current talent level in the Carolina league is the worst I've seen in 5 - 6 years.  It'll be very interesting to see how Made, Pena and Bitonti perform in A+.  I doubt they will be pushed this year.

3.  There is no possible way Made is 18 years old (Dominican age fraud).

4.  Bitonti is a defensive liability (There's a reason he was moved from SS to 3B and now to 1B) and his swing and miss rate against very average Low A arms is beyond alarming.

5.  The Brewers waisted a 1st round pick on Braylon Payne.  He can run, but that's about it.  He has he arm strength of a 15 year old and the mechanics of an average softball slapper - and an unbalanced one at that - Extremely awkward movements.  We could have had:  Kaleen Culpepper, Slade Caldwell, Theo Gillen, Carson Benge, Tommy White. . . just to name a few.  Taking Payne in the 1st round was a HUGE mistake. 

6.  Adamczewski is a PURE hitter.  Not sure where he fits defensively but he has a real feel for the barrel.

7.  I love Dinges violent approach.  Enjoyed watching him play and also see him succeed in A+.

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12 minutes ago, Crew93 said:

I've watched the Mudcats play in approximately 30 games this year.  My assessment:

1.  Neither Made or Pena will stick at SS - neither are pure infielders.  Pena, possibly at 3B, Made is going to be an outfielder, possibly 2B.  The Brewers will keep them in dirt (perceived value) but the chance of them playing SS at the highest level doesn't exist.

2.  The current talent level in the Carolina league is the worst I've seen in 5 - 6 years.  It'll be very interesting to see how Made, Pena and Bitonti perform in A+.  I doubt they will be pushed this year.

3.  There is no possible way Made is 18 years old (Dominican age fraud).

4.  Bitonti is a defensive liability (There's a reason he was moved from SS to 3B and now to 1B) and his swing and miss rate against very average Low A arms is beyond alarming.

5.  The Brewers waisted a 1st round pick on Braylon Payne.  He can run, but that's about it.  He has he arm strength of a 15 year old and the mechanics of an average softball slapper - and an unbalanced one at that - Extremely awkward movements.  We could have had:  Kaleen Culpepper, Slade Caldwell, Theo Gillen, Carson Benge, Tommy White. . . just to name a few.  Taking Payne in the 1st round was a HUGE mistake. 

6.  Adamczewski is a PURE hitter.  Not sure where he fits defensively but he has a real feel for the barrel.

7.  I love Dinges violent approach.  Enjoyed watching him play and also see him succeed in A+.

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16 minutes ago, Crew93 said:

1.  Neither Made or Pena will stick at SS - neither are pure infielders.  Pena, possibly at 3B, Made is going to be an outfielder, possibly 2B.  The Brewers will keep them in dirt (perceived value) but the chance of them playing SS at the highest level doesn't exist.

It is early on for both. They are young, athletic, but really raw. Made has made some incredible plays the past few weeks, so if your game experience was front loaded, I would have agreed with you, but the past 2-3 weeks Made is starting to look like he can handle it. And yes, one would say "Oh that's just a couple of weeks" but he is stateside playing low A ball when his peers in the US would have just completed their senior (or rarely junior) season, and it has been an upward arrow over the past month, which is the key to development.

 

18 minutes ago, Crew93 said:

2.  The current talent level in the Carolina league is the worst I've seen in 5 - 6 years.  It'll be very interesting to see how Made, Pena and Bitonti perform in A+.  I doubt they will be pushed this year.

It is not good from a production level to be sure. But from a future potential it is a very talented team. They are almost all teenagers playing routinely against 20-21 year olds (heck some pitchers are 22-23 years old drafted last year). most of these players would still be in HS, or the DSL, or the Complex League. The other is that there have been some promotions (Dinges most notably) and injuries that factor into what this team can do.  Most won't be pushed further because being in Carolina is already a big push for them.

20 minutes ago, Crew93 said:

4.  Bitonti is a defensive liability (There's a reason he was moved from SS to 3B and now to 1B) and his swing and miss rate against very average Low A arms is beyond alarming.

He could handle 3rd (did so last season in Carolina) but will be suited for 1B, and needs a lot of refinement. He is my most frustrating prospect to watch since the talent is there (he has athleticism and raw power), but he needs to recognize pitches better and understand how to make more contact, and learn to not expand the zone and take walks. He is being preached this, and he is also still young, currently still 19, so there is time. If he could put it together he is a sure fire top 5 prospect as he could hit for some average and have plus plus power. But a lot of development to go, and with that profile still has value at 1st base or LF.

Otherwise injuries (Bitonti sat for several days; Payne has been in and mostly out of the line up; Adamczewski has missed most of the season) has really affected this team, but guys like DiTuri who looked so lost last year is doing well, and now as a 19 yo looks the part of a low A player. So that's what this is for their development. Not a lot of 19-20 years are MLB ready.

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Made isn’t 18 years of old. That’s a lie and a game the buscones have been playing for years. My eyes see a player who does not project as a SS - feet, 1st step, transfer, hands and the inability to make a play in the 6 hole. 

I didn’t say the Mudcats are bad, in fact they are very good. The Carolina “LEAGUE” is extremely down this year.  EXTREMELY DOWN!

Bitonti can’t handle 3rd. If he could and the org believed this he’d be getting reps there.  Fielded .900 last year - Defensive liability  

Payne being injured has nothing to do with this assessment - he can run and that’s it.  Watch his actions, watch him throw (he may have the worst arm in professional baseball)  

 

 

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Made #8

Misiorowski #21

Pena #39

Pratt #44

Quero #70

Henderson #91

Pena, Misiorowski and Made among Pipeline’s highest “risers”.

Henderson a “new face”.

Quero among the “biggest droppers” list.

All detailed within the linked article.

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On 6/2/2025 at 10:31 AM, Playing Catch said:

Kiley McDaniel's update from 6-2-25...

June update: 2025 top 10 prospect rankings for all 30 MLB teams - ESPN

There's something satisfying about his comment that "a dozen or so other prospects could slot into that 10th spot."

This is old, but it shows Luke Adams down 6 spots and he's ranked 7th? 

That's a mistake, right? I've never seen him higher than he is right now. 

A month laster and I wonder what they'd say about Hardin or a couple other guys. 

Again, just the deepest and most well rounded I've ever seen a Brewers system since I was ordering those Baseball America Prospect books in the "olden" days of ~2000. 

The #1 ranked farm system with Weeks, Prince...Hardy, Hart, that was heavy on the top end, but didn't have nearly as many guys who COULD come up and be very good players and they didn't have the pitching.

We'll graduate Mis and maybe Henderson off the list before next year and add a lot of draft picks, so.... I'd be very surprised if this isn't a top...3 system. 4 guys with a CHANCE to be top 25 in Made, Pena, Pratt and Quero(he'd have to finish strong in the 2nd half). 

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On 6/30/2025 at 3:48 PM, Crew93 said:

I've watched the Mudcats play in approximately 30 games this year.  My assessment:

1.  Neither Made or Pena will stick at SS - neither are pure infielders.  Pena, possibly at 3B, Made is going to be an outfielder, possibly 2B.  The Brewers will keep them in dirt (perceived value) but the chance of them playing SS at the highest level doesn't exist.

2.  The current talent level in the Carolina league is the worst I've seen in 5 - 6 years.  It'll be very interesting to see how Made, Pena and Bitonti perform in A+.  I doubt they will be pushed this year.

3.  There is no possible way Made is 18 years old (Dominican age fraud).

4.  Bitonti is a defensive liability (There's a reason he was moved from SS to 3B and now to 1B) and his swing and miss rate against very average Low A arms is beyond alarming.

5.  The Brewers waisted a 1st round pick on Braylon Payne.  He can run, but that's about it.  He has he arm strength of a 15 year old and the mechanics of an average softball slapper - and an unbalanced one at that - Extremely awkward movements.  We could have had:  Kaleen Culpepper, Slade Caldwell, Theo Gillen, Carson Benge, Tommy White. . . just to name a few.  Taking Payne in the 1st round was a HUGE mistake. 

6.  Adamczewski is a PURE hitter.  Not sure where he fits defensively but he has a real feel for the barrel.

7.  I love Dinges violent approach.  Enjoyed watching him play and also see him succeed in A+.

No possible way? (I'm glad you explained your very obvious statement).

You realize MLB has REALLY ramped up their investigations of these young players and the Brewers have an academy down there and they were in on Made when he was 14, right?

 

Made can definitely stick at SS and if he doesn't, 3B would be more likely...the most likely reason he wouldn't is because Pratt is ahead of him and may be entrenched. Pena can play 2B, 3B or SS. If they couldn't, the Brewers wouldn't just keep them "on the dirt," because of "perceived value." 

4-Bitonti has been moved because they had a logjam there. He's got the tools to be an exceptional 1B and he's got massive power. As with many guys with long levers like him, it takes a little time to get more consistent contact, but he hits for a LOT of power right now.

5-Ok. I mean, they took one of the youngest players in the class... but Tommy White? A 3B who can't play 3B...and you're talking about Bitonti, a 3B who was a better 3B than White, but moved due to SO many players ahead of him?
White will end up at 1B. We got Burke out of that class. Burke's a better hitter than White already. 

 

You just listed a bunch of guys who were ~4 years older than Payne and are performing better this year as a result, but the hyperbole is.... off the charts. I know Payne has the "mechanics of a softball slapper," but he's 6'2, thing, will add weight, draws a lot of walks and has elite speed and is a plus defender in CF. 

CFers who can get on base and play very good defense are generally pretty valuable... though if you're just looking back 3 months into their first full season, it'll probably be the case that the more advanced College bats are putting up better numbers. 

 

I guess we'll have to see 3-4 years from now if you're right or if the numerous scouts are right...and just have to wait for the inevitable Made age controversy to come out as... there's absolutely no chance he's 18(why....who knows, just can't be I guess). 

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