Brewers-Cubs NLDS Game Two Thread

[Underachiever]

I have a ticket in 233 for sale. Message me if interested 

[BarremlensTSSC]

6 hours ago, Patrick425 said:

I was at game 1 and will be there tomorrow as well. I didn't look at the game thread from Game 1, and I'm assuming some of this was discussed in that thread.

- I've seen a lot of discussion back and forth about SSHs that choose to sell tickets to these games. Back in 2008 and 2011 I did sell tickets to a few games. I know that is a bit different than selling tix to playoff games vs the Cubs. However, I'm not going to totally fault any SSH that does this. The price of the entire strip is more than double the total cost of a 20 game SSH package. Everyone has different financial situations.  Just because you are a SSH does not mean you are "rich".  My situation is a bit better now than it was 10-15 years ago. My wife and I now a dual income empty-nesters. So, at this point we can swallow the cost of these tix a little better without having to subsidize the package by selling tix to some games. 

- Having said that, It appeared that the crowd was no more than 15% Cubs fans (20% at the most).  As someone predicted in a different thread, post season games will not be as infiltrated with Cubs fans as much as regular season games for various reasons. This definitely seems to be the case. 

I've got a sibling who is a season ticket holder.  They were offered the chance to buy playoff tickets and took it.  I get it's expensive.  It's also voluntary.  No one HAS to buy the seats and then flip some to finance it.  That's a choice.  There are plenty of 20 game package holders available to buy those seats.  I'm glad the was an 85/15 split.  I expect tomorrow will be a little worse as there's more time to flip the seats than there was Saturday after the Cubs advanced. 

[BarremlensTSSC]

2 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

I have a feeling Jackson will not be communicating any discomfort with them. 

Not saying that's a good thing or not, but... just my guess. 

If he plays, I hope his base running is limited to nice... easy base running. A light jog a time or two around the bases. 

pretty sure that's true;  also not sure they'll need him to.  the footage of his jogs down to 1B were not, in my opinion, encouraging.  Looked to be favoring it coming out of the box in my opinion.

[shanedog19]

56 minutes ago, BarremlensTSSC said:

pretty sure that's true;  also not sure they'll need him to.  the footage of his jogs down to 1B were not, in my opinion, encouraging.  Looked to be favoring it coming out of the box in my opinion.

Interesting. I looked at the footage and came away with a completely different take. He didn’t seem to be favoring the leg at all, but also seemed like he wasn’t trying to push it. I’ll say he plays tomorrow based on that clip.

[BrewerFan]

2 hours ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

But there's really no "locking it down" after 9-12 outs. Just too much game left. I want Ashby to get 3 outs and I HOPE he can get 6. Getting 9 would be an awesomely insane thing, and it probably means he's doing it on 35 pitches. I think you absolutely want him fresh as possible for Game 3.

I didn't say you could lock the game down after 9-12 outs, I'm saying I don't want to take him out of the game early so he's available in Gm3. I don't want to go into the game with the plan that no matter how good he's throwing, you're taking him out so he can throw Gm3. 

 

[wildcat83]

8 hours ago, TURBO said:

Agreed, I don't know why the playoffs is a time to try new stuff, and this seems like it could backfire.  It's like Counsell starting Boyd on 3 days rest, how did that work out?

I'd start Priester, then go to Ashby if necessary later.

I don't like messing with what has got us here.  I want nothing more than to be wrong, but this just seems like Murphy is doing something different just to be doing something different.

This isn’t really new stuff though, they’ve done it this year against lineups with good lefties early.  They used it against the Phillies and Nationals and it worked well.  The July 11th game against the Nationals DL Hall started and went 3 innings and Priester followed him and pitched the last 6 innings.

[Team Canada]

2 minutes ago, wildcat83 said:

This isn’t really new stuff though, they’ve done it this year against lineups with good lefties early.  They used it against the Phillies and Nationals and it worked well.  The July 11th game against the Nationals DL Hall started and went 3 innings and Priester followed him and pitched the last 6 innings.

Exactly. Ideally Ashby blows through 6 outs, Priester gives you 4-6 innings, and you're looking great for Game 3, when you can let Quintana go as long as he's rolling and yank him as soon as you need to.

[BrewerFan]

19 minutes ago, Team Canada said:

Exactly. Ideally Ashby blows through 6 outs, Priester gives you 4-6 innings, and you're looking great for Game 3, when you can let Quintana go as long as he's rolling and yank him as soon as you need to.

I'd like this even more if we had Hall on the roster... but I'm still good with it.

What is up with Hall though? He was supposed to be ahead of a couple of the injured pitchers and they were going to see where Henderson and Hall were at, but... I never really heard an update. 

[thebruce44]

24 minutes ago, Team Canada said:

Exactly. Ideally Ashby blows through 6 outs, Priester gives you 4-6 innings, and you're looking great for Game 3, when you can let Quintana go as long as he's rolling and yank him as soon as you need to.

I almost want to see Uribe and/or Megill get an inning tomorrow with the time off as opposed to throwing everyone after Quintana in G3.

[BrewerFan]

1 hour ago, shanedog19 said:

Interesting. I looked at the footage and came away with a completely different take. He didn’t seem to be favoring the leg at all, but also seemed like he wasn’t trying to push it. I’ll say he plays tomorrow based on that clip.

What clip? 

This presumably from today just doing some work?

I pulled mine good once in College just screwing around before the season started playing intramural flag Football and my entire leg was black and blue. Treatment 3X a day, rest, rehab, stretching, treatment, stretching... and then as soon as it felt good again... it'd go. 

 

So I guess you must just get really good at feeling when it's tight and you have a very minor pull, but he looked good hauling down to 1B and he didn't grab it or anything(that was another thing, I felt like I'd been shot in the leg and went down). 

Vs a lefty, really hope he's good! He's one of the guys who can hit a pitchers best pitches. Those guys are rare. Most guys on this team hit mistakes... and that's the case with most good hitters. Chourio, when he's locked in, he can rifle it to RF, he can drill it to CF, he can hit it anywhere. 

[BrewerFan]

2 hours ago, thebruce44 said:

I almost want to see Uribe and/or Megill get an inning tomorrow with the time off as opposed to throwing everyone after Quintana in G3.

I really thought they should have gotten Uribe in Gm1. He's the type of guy who is so emotional... in the best way, but I would have liked his first outing to be in a 6 run game. 

Megill... I was encouraged by his outing on the last day, but I'm still nervous about him. He's also an emotional guy, but he seems a bit more mature. I trust him in a high leverage spot without getting an inning, it's just the elbow. 

[Bulldogboy]

I will say I hate this move with Ashby but hope it works. I keep hearing how we need to do this in part due to Busch etc. I hate that it feels like we are adjusting to them. They aren't starting a righty to deal with Chourio and Contreras. Pitch your best available starting pitchers and play ball. Just my opinion. 

[SeaBass]

3 hours ago, Bulldogboy said:

I will say I hate this move with Ashby but hope it works. I keep hearing how we need to do this in part due to Busch etc. I hate that it feels like we are adjusting to them. They aren't starting a righty to deal with Chourio and Contreras. Pitch your best available starting pitchers and play ball. Just my opinion. 

Michael Busch: .261/.343/.523/.866 and 147 OPS+

Jackson Chourio: .270/.308/.463/.770 and 112 OPS+

William Contreras: .260/.355/.399/.754 and 111 OPS+

One of these things is not like the other two.

[Frisbee Slider]

I forgot how mixed Priester’s results have been against Chicago this season. Yes, he got rocked in May before turning his season around. Even in August he walked five Cubs in one start.

[TURBO]

8 hours ago, wildcat83 said:

This isn’t really new stuff though, they’ve done it this year against lineups with good lefties early.  They used it against the Phillies and Nationals and it worked well.  The July 11th game against the Nationals DL Hall started and went 3 innings and Priester followed him and pitched the last 6 innings.

Ashby has done this once this season, with good results I admit, but this just feels like doing something to do it.  Do we have any idea how Priester will react to doing this?  Anything to mess with his head isn't a good thing.  The way it seems, he knows he's coming in, but not sure when.  What if Ashby struggles, makes it through 2/3 of an inning and Priester comes in at that time? I just don't like messing with a formula that has been working all season, but we shall see.

Hopefully, I'm worrying about nothing, and this all works out, but if it doesn't, Murphy deserves to be criticized.

Here's hoping Ashby goes 2 innings, dominates, and Priester comes in and does his thing.

[Frisbee Slider]

1 minute ago, TURBO said:

Do we have any idea how Priester will react to doing this?

Priester is probably aware of his 2025 results against Chicago. They are mixed, at best. Even in August, Priester walked five Cubs.

[dlk9s]

I assume Chourio will not play tonight. As much as I want him to be on the field, they have to sit him until they are absolutely confident that he's ok.

[dlk9s]

13 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

So you get a few innings, 3 MAYBE where you negate their LHed bats(hopefully). 

Then you're coming back with Priester for the next 3-4? Or is it just going by feel? Priester may or may not pitch?

Do you honestly think they don't have a plan?

[Underachiever]

11 hours ago, Underachiever said:

I have a ticket in 233 for sale. Message me if interested 

Sold.

[Frisbee Slider]

2 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

Sold.

Not to ‘Northsider847’ for 3x face value, I hope 🙂

[Playing Catch]

These days, all of these guys are used to coming out of the pen. They've all pitched in the minors with openers, rehabbers, and as piggy-backers. Starting with a clean inning, I think, is the only concern. And as Matthew Boyd and the Cubs proved the other day, there's no guarantee that a pitch-to-contact starting pitcher, like Priester can make it out of the first without giving up a crooked number, either.

I would like the Ashby-opener plan a lot better had Zastryzny been on the roster instead of Grant Anderson. I don't like the idea of needing another leverage lefty to face Busch or Tucker in the 10th inning, only to be staring at the glorified-rookie-coming-off-of-injury, Robert Gasser.

[shanedog19]

28 minutes ago, dlk9s said:

I assume Chourio will not play tonight. As much as I want him to be on the field, they have to sit him until they are absolutely confident that he's ok.

Either that, or the DH him and play Yelich in the outfield. 

[Frisbee Slider]

I liked the Danny Jansen DH idea. Get him 1-2 at bats against the lefty.

[Team Canada]

40 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Do we have any idea how Priester will react to doing this?  Anything to mess with his head isn't a good thing. 

 

He's done it multiple times this year already though, I don't think it's a big deal. If Priester does pitch today, I'm sure they already have it mapped out.

[liveforoctober]

9 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

I didn't say you could lock the game down after 9-12 outs, I'm saying I don't want to take him out of the game early so he's available in Gm3. I don't want to go into the game with the plan that no matter how good he's throwing, you're taking him out so he can throw Gm3. 

 

Ashby giving you 3 clean innings defeats the entire purpose of him starting unless his 3rd inning clears the top of the order a 2nd time.