What could Freddy Peralta fetch in a trade?

[gregmag]

Yankees just resigned Bellinger, so they would probably deal Spencer Jones. He’s a whole foot taller than Jett Williams.  All kidding aside, he’s a young, blocked, power hitting corner of, which seems like a good profile to pursue.  He does strike out a ton. 

[Madhawk23]

Just now, gregmag said:

Yankees just resigned Bellinger, so they would probably deal Spencer Jones. He’s a whole foot taller than Jett Williams.  All kidding aside, he’s a young, blocked, power hitting corner of, which seems like a good profile to pursue.  He does strike out a ton. 

Spencer jones is an extremely volatile profile, so I would not want him being the centerpiece coming back in a Freddy trade.  A ton of risk there that he's never not going to swing and miss too much at the MLB level.  If our development staff felt as if they could tweak some things with his swing to alleviate some of the concerns, then he might be worth taking a flyer on. But I definitely would need someone like Lagrange included as the centerpiece.  

[Matt]

Robert Murray was just on a live Youtube and he thinks Freddy is going to be traded and that the bidding war will be huge. Just my opinion, but I don't think many of the packages discussed around here and elsewhere would really strike me as something overwhelming that the Brewers have no choice but to accept.

To me, if teams like the Mets, Yankees, Braves, and Dodgers (and small market teams that get involved because of the $8 million deal) are all giving their theoretical best offers, we should be talking about #1 org prospects. Lombard or Kilby for the Yankees, McLean or Benge for the Mets, Caminiti AND Ritchie for the Braves, some combination of Sirota, De Paula, and Quintero from the Dodgers. 

I dunno. I just think if there really is a huge market for Freddy with everyone involved, the Brewers should get back an absolutely enormous haul. 

[Madhawk23]

6 minutes ago, Matt said:

Robert Murray was just on a live Youtube and he thinks Freddy is going to be traded and that the bidding war will be huge. Just my opinion, but I don't think many of the packages discussed around here and elsewhere would really strike me as something overwhelming that the Brewers have no choice but to accept.

To me, if teams like the Mets, Yankees, Braves, and Dodgers (and small market teams that get involved because of the $8 million deal) are all giving their theoretical best offers, we should be talking about #1 org prospects. Lombard or Kilby for the Yankees, McLean or Benge for the Mets, Caminiti AND Ritchie for the Braves, some combination of Sirota, De Paula, and Quintero from the Dodgers. 

I dunno. I just think if there really is a huge market for Freddy with everyone involved, the Brewers should get back an absolutely enormous haul. 

Prepare to be disappointed then!  

Murray was also the guy that used the word "significant" to initially describe the return that the Brewers were going to get from San Francisco back in July '19 when we sent Mauricio Duban. Minutes later we found out that the return was Drew Pomeranz and his 5+ ERA.  Now, we all know that Pomeranz ended up pitching great for us the rest of that season so maybe Murray has some magical powers to look into the future, but at the time of the deal - getting Pomeranz back was anything but significant.  

[Lloyd330]

50 minutes ago, Matt said:

Robert Murray was just on a live Youtube and he thinks Freddy is going to be traded and that the bidding war will be huge. Just my opinion, but I don't think many of the packages discussed around here and elsewhere would really strike me as something overwhelming that the Brewers have no choice but to accept.

To me, if teams like the Mets, Yankees, Braves, and Dodgers (and small market teams that get involved because of the $8 million deal) are all giving their theoretical best offers, we should be talking about #1 org prospects. Lombard or Kilby for the Yankees, McLean or Benge for the Mets, Caminiti AND Ritchie for the Braves, some combination of Sirota, De Paula, and Quintero from the Dodgers. 

I dunno. I just think if there really is a huge market for Freddy with everyone involved, the Brewers should get back an absolutely enormous haul. 

The Mets wouldn't trade McLean straight up for Peralta - Like, there is wishful thinking and then just being too much of a homer. 

[wallus]

I didn't see the video but huge could mean lots of teams putting in bids?

I trust Murray's sources when it comes to the team. At this point, I'd be surprised if Freddy is on the roster Opening Day 

[Matt]

3 minutes ago, Lloyd330 said:

The Mets wouldn't trade McLean straight up for Peralta - Like, there is wishful thinking and then just being too much of a homer. 

Normally I'd agree. But that's kind of my point. If Peralta really is this crazy high asset right now with seemingly every team in need of his services, then the return should be appropriately huge. 

[BrewLongma34]

All it takes is one blown shoulder injury.   Trade him!!!  We have an abundance of young studs.   Trade him and trade him for a pirates ransom!

[wallus]

Anyone else thinking this is a "submit your best and final offer" media blitz?

[Madhawk23]

6 minutes ago, wallus said:

Anyone else thinking this is a "submit your best and final offer" media blitz?

I hope that's the point we're at here. Now that we're getting into late January, I think it's about that time.  

I just hope that Arnold doesn't fold here and take less than what we require for Freddy to get a deal done. If the worst case scenario is we get Freddy for his final season in a Brewers uniform and a Comp pick when he leaves next winter, then I'm definitely on board with that - instead of settling for a lesser package of prospects.  Get as much as you can Arnold, or don't trade him.  

[wibadgers23]

7 minutes ago, wallus said:

Anyone else thinking this is a "submit your best and final offer" media blitz?

Feels like something will be resolved rather quickly here - we either trade him very soon or decide he's a Brewer in 2026.  I'm sure they want to come to a decision within the next few weeks before pitchers and catchers report.

[wiguy94]

37 minutes ago, Madhawk23 said:

I hope that's the point we're at here. Now that we're getting into late January, I think it's about that time.  

I just hope that Arnold doesn't fold here and take less than what we require for Freddy to get a deal done. If the worst case scenario is we get Freddy for his final season in a Brewers uniform and a Comp pick when he leaves next winter, then I'm definitely on board with that - instead of settling for a lesser package of prospects.  Get as much as you can Arnold, or don't trade him.  

That not the worst case scenario. The worst case scenario is Freddy gets injured and we get a partial season and no comp pick.

[Madhawk23]

25 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

That not the worst case scenario. The worst case scenario is Freddy gets injured and we get a partial season and no comp pick.

[wiguy94]

25 minutes ago, Madhawk23 said:

Not really. It’s absolutely part of the equation when it comes to pitchers. This will be Freddy’s age 30 season. Woodruff blew out his shoulder and Burnes blew out his elbow in their age 30 seasons. 
 

Surely you don’t think it’s a coincidence that Hader, Williams, and Burnes were all traded instead of riding them out for a comp pick while Adames a position player was rode out and given a QO.

[tmwiese55]

I'm fine either way, but generally agree with an a post a few back that you need to be won over on this one.  Basically, we're content to keep him and go for it with him this year. So to make us change our mind we need to be won over with a great offer.  Unlike when Burnes was traded and everyone knew it would happen and we were likely the initiator on some calls. 

[CheeseheadInQC]

If the Yankees went Rodriguez-Cruz and Kilby, that would be amazing. Doubt they will, though. I think if it is the Yankees, Rodriguez-Cruz would be the guy they push for. I don’t know what the rest of the package would look like, but once you get past Lombard, Kilby and Jones, I don’t know they have much on the position player side after the Weathers deal. Maybe a DSLer like Richard Matic or something.

[Madhawk23]

39 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Not really. It’s absolutely part of the equation when it comes to pitchers. This will be Freddy’s age 30 season. Woodruff blew out his shoulder and Burnes blew out his elbow in their age 30 seasons. 
 

Surely you don’t think it’s a coincidence that Hader, Williams, and Burnes were all traded instead of riding them out for a comp pick while Adames a position player was rode out and given a QO.

No, I get it completely! Was just giving you a hard time! 😉

[SF70]

1 hour ago, wiguy94 said:

That not the worst case scenario. The worst case scenario is Freddy gets injured and we get a partial season and no comp pick.

Which is the #1 reason to trade Freddy. The Woodruff injury in 2023 had to have made MKE gun-shy about going the distance with starting pitchers. Let’s get the guaranteed return and move on.

[Jopal78]

5 hours ago, endaround said:

He spent 7 starts in 2024 and 24 in 2025. So one full season.  So 10 more than Henderson and substantially less than Gasser.

And more starts in AAA than Burnes, Woodruff and Peralta. And all the while  toiling away in AAA as the Mets gave 27 starts to pitchers with a collective era over 5.00; so it’s not like Sproat was in AAA for lack of need in New York.

As for Williams, the list of 5’9” and shorter MLB hitters with power in the modern era is: Puckett and Altuve, so take Willaims’ mashing in A-ball with a grain of salt. In fact you can already see it playing out that his OPS after leaving A-ball is under .800. 
 

A short, speedy contact hitter with defensive versatility….. sounds like Caleb Durbin to me.

Plus, as the Mets pay over 40 million dollars (salary + luxury tax) to acquire Luis Robert Jr., Peralta is worth his weight in gold to the big boys paying the CBT because his salary is only 8 million.

[Matt]

14 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

And more starts in AAA than Burnes, Woodruff and Peralta. And all the while  toiling away in AAA as the Mets gave 27 starts to pitchers with a collective era over 5.00; so it’s not like Sproat was in AAA for lack of need in New York.

As for Williams, the list of 5’9” and shorter MLB hitters with power in the modern era is: Puckett and Altuve, so take Willaims’ mashing in A-ball with a grain of salt. In fact you can already see it playing out that his OPS after leaving A-ball is under .800. 
 

A short, speedy contact hitter with defensive versatility….. sounds like Caleb Durbin to me.

Plus, as the Mets pay over 40 million dollars (salary + luxury tax) to acquire Luis Robert Jr., Peralta is worth his weight in gold to the big boys paying the CBT because his salary is only 8 million.

Last season, as a 21 year old, his OPS across AA-AAA was .828.

Durbin was posting a .642 OPS across 62 PAs in rookie ball at the same age.

[brewmann04]

Their comes a time when the brewers tell team to come in with their best offers and decide if it’s good or hold him to the deadline or season end 

[wiguy94]

18 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

And more starts in AAA than Burnes, Woodruff and Peralta. And all the while  toiling away in AAA as the Mets gave 27 starts to pitchers with a collective era over 5.00; so it’s not like Sproat was in AAA for lack of need in New York.

As for Williams, the list of 5’9” and shorter MLB hitters with power in the modern era is: Puckett and Altuve, so take Willaims’ mashing in A-ball with a grain of salt. In fact you can already see it playing out that his OPS after leaving A-ball is under .800. 
 

A short, speedy contact hitter with defensive versatility….. sounds like Caleb Durbin to me.

Plus, as the Mets pay over 40 million dollars (salary + luxury tax) to acquire Luis Robert Jr., Peralta is worth his weight in gold to the big boys paying the CBT because his salary is only 8 million.

The Mets aggressively pushed Sproat to AAA. He threw 87 innings below AAA. Him not being ready to start games in MLB last year is hardly a major fault against him. How many pitchers only threw 237 innings in the minors before they made their MLB debut?

Williams had an .868 OPS and 156 wRC+ in AA last year as a 21 year old over 2 years younger than the average position player in the Eastern League.

[Jastro]

 

[wibadgers23]

Just now, Jastro said:

 

Buckle up!

[Jastro]