Guardians (Williams) vs Brewers (Sproat): 6/17/26, 6:40pm

[wallus]

16 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

How many putouts did Pratt have at SS in tonight’s game?

As many as you and I

[edfunderburk]

Just now, wallus said:

As many as you and I

That seems unusual. What is normal? He only had the double play & an error last night. So, he has not had a ground ball to SS throw to 1B yet. That seems very uncommon. 

[Opening Day]

12 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Correct. Only two through two games

Errors on half of his chances, that's not going to cut it.  Im ready to call up Made.

[edfunderburk]

[Opening Day]

Moved past Atlanta, keep stacking the W's.  

[RobertCrawley]

7 minutes ago, liveforoctober said:

The way Cooper had the widest grin after his first at-bat and his first hit and after his first run scored and after his first RBI, etc ... 

I hope he plays the game like that forever.

Another thing I really like about his interview is that he said he was not going to strike out with men on base. He was going to put the ball in play. That's a great attitude for the young man.

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 minute ago, liveforoctober said:

The way Cooper had the widest grin after his first at-bat and his first hit and after his first run scored and after his first RBI, etc ... 

I hope he plays the game like that forever.

I had a funny feeling that his 1st handful of ABs here were going to be similar to what Konnor Griffin did when Pittsburgh came here-----a heavy dose of balls to the right side (Griffin admittedly with more authority though). He sprayed the ball pretty much all over in AAA, and showed a great approach despite the modest numbers. Now we'll see when people come in on him, which hasn't happened much yet.

Loved him in the postgame interview re the hit in the 8th. Don't remember the exact quote but it was along the lines of "I'm not striking out here."

[TwinsBrewersWorldSeries]

8 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

I’m ok with the 2 seed as long as LA is number 1

[Bulldogboy]

1 hour ago, wiguy94 said:

I'm just going to say his leg was tightening up and that's why he looked bad in the 4th inning.

It went back to starting the inning with a walk. Got to stay focused 

[liveforoctober]

The Frelick/Vaughn platoon (things I never thought I'd find myself saying before the season started - Part 12) was 3-5 with 3 RBI and a run scored today.

[willie key]

Yelich only has five homers?   For some reason I thought he had a few more than that

[CheezWizHed]

10 hours ago, TwinsBrewersWorldSeries said:

I’m ok with the 2 seed as long as LA is number 1

I'd prefer them to be the 12th seed personally. 

[Jimbo]

Man of the Match: Sal Frelick (WPA = +0.16).

 

[TwinsBrewersWorldSeries]

1 hour ago, CheezWizHed said:

I'd prefer them to be the 12th seed personally. 

Even better!

[Frisbee Slider]

33 minutes ago, Jimbo said:

Man of the Match: Sal Frelick (WPA = +0.16).

 

[sveumrules]

13 hours ago, willie key said:

We need to find a pitcher or two.  I’m actually done caring about hitters

this whole Miz and Harrison and pray the next series gets rained out sucks

The Brewers are 20 W - 7 L in games started by Misio or Harrison so far this year.

That leaves a record of 25 W - 19 L (.568 W% or a 92 Win pace over 162 games) when anybody else starts.

The St. Louis Cardinals are currently sixth in all of MLB with a .556 W% so our three through nine starters (plus two openers) have won games at a Top Five clip to this point.

[cragi]

7 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

The Brewers are 20 W - 7 L in games started by Misio or Harrison so far this year.

That leaves a record of 25 W - 19 L (.568 W% or a 92 Win pace over 162 games) when anybody else starts.

The St. Louis Cardinals are currently sixth in all of MLB with a .556 W% so our three through nine starters (plus two openers) have won games at a Top Five clip to this point.

its not really about that. in addition to the pitchers struggling with health and the farm getting depleted, its a question of matching the Dodgers in the postseason by having 3 aces to work with. I think we all can see this Brewers team is going to make the playoffs, barring some unusually bad health the second half.  Not saying they will make a move for an arm, because its possible to win it all with what they have, but their odds go up pretty significantly this year if they can add one more big arm.

[sveumrules]

13 hours ago, BruisedCrew said:

The series in the Cincy bandbox could be really ugly with the pitchers they’re going to have to use. 

The Reds offense is currently averaging 4.31 R/G at home. The Brewers offense is currently averaging 5.22 R/G on the road.

Since EDLC went down the Reds have an 89 wRC+ (24th) and have scored 3.67 R/G (26th)

Also looks like the Reds two best starters (Abbott and Burns) are currently listed as the probables for their last two games against the Yankees before we come to town so we should be missing them unless they get pushed back in the interim.

[formerlybis]

6 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

The Brewers are 20 W - 7 L in games started by Misio or Harrison so far this year.

That leaves a record of 25 W - 19 L (.568 W% or a 92 Win pace over 162 games) when anybody else starts.

The St. Louis Cardinals are currently sixth in all of MLB with a .556 W% so our three through nine starters (plus two openers) have won games at a Top Five clip to this point.

Those are the facts, but, subjectively, it doesn't seem wrong to be concerned about the rotation after the top 2 when it seems they often struggle to get through 5 innings. The pen has been good and probably is the reason why the sterling record exists, but they cover a lot of innings. We'll see how Woodruff does - seems risky to rely on him to be the answer, but he deserves a shot.  

[JoeyWiemerTruther]

11 hours ago, TwinsBrewersWorldSeries said:

I’m ok with the 2 seed as long as LA is number 1

At all costs do not want to play LA in the NLDS. So all that matters is that LA and us don’t end up the 2/3 seeds. I’m even fine with LA getting the 1 seed as that makes it impossible for us to play them til the NLCS (assuming we win our division)

[sveumrules]

Just now, cragi said:

its not really about that. in addition to the pitchers struggling with health and the farm getting depleted, its a question of matching the Dodgers in the postseason by having 3 aces to work with. I think we all can see this Brewers team is going to make the playoffs, barring some unusually bad health the second half.  Not saying they will make a move for an arm, because its possible to win it all with what they have, but their odds go up pretty significantly this year if they can add one more big arm.

122 LOB+ (1st) | 152 K+ (3rd) | 54 ERA- (4th) | 66 FIP- (6th) | 78 WHIP+ (18th) | 83 AVG+ (18th)

Obviously Logan Henderson isn't healthy at the moment, but I'm hoping the Brewers are doing their best to make sure he is ready to go for the postseason because he has been one of the most dominant SP in MLB over the last two years when on the mound.

I'm always down to add more pitching, and the Brewers front office has typically done so at the deadline.

I know that IGTs run a little hyperbolic, but characterizing a group with a .568 W% that is literally better than 25 other teams as "pray the next series gets rained out sucks" cracked me up even more than usual.

[sveumrules]

14 hours ago, wallus said:

Someone put out the Sveum signal... Is this the youngest rotation we have ever had?

Believe it is. BRef doesn't isolate SP from RP but they have our average pitcher age youngest in MLB at 26.8 with PIT in 2nd at 27.4 versus an MLB average of 29.3.

Looking at just this year relative to the rest of MLB, and outside of Woodruff the old men of the rotation have been Gasser, Patrick and Drohan in their age 27 seasons. Here are the Brewers rotation ranks for SP age 27 and under so far this year...

321 IP (3rd) | 129 K+ (1st) | 136 K/BB+ (5th) | 89 AVG+ (4th) | 88 WHIP+ (6th) | 107 LOB+ (5th) | 82 ERA- (2nd) | 83 FIP- (6th) | +3.23 WPA (1st) | +38.84 RE24 (1st) | 8.3 rWAR (1st) | 7.4 fWAR (1st)

Expanding it out to the whole staff (since guys like Drohan and Patrick have had swing roles) plus kicking it up to Age 28 to accommodate Ashby as the oldest young guy in the pen and their MLB whole staff ranks for pitchers 28 and under come in at...

521 IP (2nd) | 123 K+ (1st) | 117 K/BB+ (7th) | 91 AVG+ (3rd) | 92 WHIP+ (7th) | 106 LOB+ (t-1st) | 79 ERA- (3rd) | 83 FIP- (3rd) | +4.42 WPA (3rd) | +66.00 RE24 (1st) | 10.7 rWAR (1st) | 9.6 fWAR (1st) 

[liveforoctober]

Drohan has been good. I enjoy watching him pitch. Patrick has been very good. I enjoy watching him pitch. Henderson was awesome. Woodruff was good. Crow had moments, Gasser has had moments, Sproat has largely struggled. That group, collectively, has been good.

"Pray for rain". So many around here love drama just for drama's sake. I'll never understand it.

[cragi]

im not asking for more stats. as a stat head in the real world, i understand well how to use stats to justify a position, whether or not they tell the real story. 

The real story is that a lot of arms are down from the initial roster, torching the depth: Woodruff, Priester, Henderson, Crow, Zerpa, Koenig, etc. And we have a lot of youth on the staff, both of which are a significant concern for a playoff run.  The stats say they are doing a good job of managing the "now", but not necessarily for the posteason, where innings pitched, experience and TOR matters more.

We saw last year, and many analysts predicted, how the team wasnt built for the postseason. That has improved this year, but not necessarily enough to surpass the Dodgers.

[liveforoctober]

16 minutes ago, cragi said:

im not asking for more stats. as a stat head in the real world, i understand well how to use stats to justify a position, whether or not they tell the real story. 

The real story is that a lot of arms are down from the initial roster, torching the depth: Woodruff, Priester, Henderson, Crow, Zerpa, Koenig, etc. And we have a lot of youth on the staff, both of which are a significant concern for a playoff run.  The stats say they are doing a good job of managing the "now", but not necessarily for the posteason, where innings pitched, experience and TOR matters more.

We saw last year, and many analysts predicted, how the team wasnt built for the postseason. That has improved this year, but not necessarily enough to surpass the Dodgers.

I think what you are saying is valid, I also think it is a different topic than what was being originally responded to. You are arguing for getting arms to matchup against LA in the playoffs. The original comment that started the convo was inferring we don't have arms to get us through the season. I think those are two different topics. I think your point is far more agreeable than the other poster's.