2019-04-06: Cubs (Hamels) at Brewers (Burnes) [Brewers lose, 14-8 -- Battle of struggling bullpens]

[Fear The Chorizo]

Would be good to keep it a game as it moves towards the later innings, and take their chances against that Cub pen....but frankly Burnes shouldn't have started this inning

[yfinn6]

Burnes stuff is so good but the fact that every hard hit ball leaves the yard is troubling. It's early but...

 

There's no 'but' about it. It's early.

[xisxisxis]

Why he was sent out for the top of the 6th is beyond me...

[82brewcrew82]

I have no idea why he is still out there. That '3rd time through' stuff is a real thing.

Not for Hamels.

[adambr2]

Burnes has allowed 6 HR in 2 starts. He allowed 4 in 47 relief innings last year.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

The Cubs really can hit. I think the Cardinals are the better team overall, bit both offenses will mash.

 

Figured we were due for a clunker this series. Still time, of course, especially agaonst that BP, but I would be thrilled with even a series victory.

[adambr2]

3 batters too late.

[82brewcrew82]

Looking at the rotation at the beginning of the year, Burnes was the one I least expected to be removed due to performance. I'm sure they will give him several more opportunities, but it hasn't been ideal so far. He looked electric against the Cardinals other than the HRs, and there have certainly been flashes tonight. The stuff is certainly there.

This is the decision they've made. We are going to have to hope the kids grow up quickly.

[Eye Black]

From Adam McCalvy: “Corbin Burnes is the first Brewers pitcher to allow at least three home runs in consecutive games since Jason Bere in 2000. There's a blast from the past for you.”

[ReverendBrewmeister]

I’m highest on Burnes out of the big 3. He is just so dominant for most of his outings. I don’t think HRs will plague him. Growing pains will happen.

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Kid will be an Ace. 4 pitches he can throw any count. Power fastball with high spin rate. Can locate. Is intense competitor. He will be special.

 

Burnes’ repertoire of pitches should give him the potential of being an ace pitcher. But I do have a little bit of wonder—not doubt, but wonder—if Burnes might end up being a right-handed Hader. He was dominant out of the bullpen last year. If he could go all out for one or two innings at a time, then might that lead to better performances? It would avoid having to face batters multiple times in appearances. Certainly, Burnes will get opportunities to show his stuff as a starter, but being a bullpen ace is nothing to sneeze at.

[HarveysWBs]

So far, the issue for Burnes is simple: his fastball up is nigh untouchable; if it slips to the middle of the zone, it gets hit out. A little of that has to be bad luck, because 6 HRs on an elite cutting fastball in two games is kind of ludicrous, but he still can’t leave that pitch there, plain and simple. If he figures out how to consistently locate that pitch, it sets up the entire rest of the arsenal and he’ll be really good. If not, he’ll continue to struggle, I think. Bottom line is, I’m excited for him, but he’s got a real issue. But at his level of experience, no one should be expecting Max Scherzer-esque performance.

[TURBO]

Well, at least the pitchers are poring on the hits vs the Cubs. I say that to look for something positive to say.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Game turned on stupid out at home plate. Oh well. Get 2/3.

[valpocrewsader]

Game turned on stupid out at home plate. Oh well. Get 2/3.

 

I'll never understand the contact play. Especially with nobody out. Stupid.

[pacopete4]

Looking at the rotation at the beginning of the year, Burnes was the one I least expected to be removed due to performance. I'm sure they will give him several more opportunities, but it hasn't been ideal so far. He looked electric against the Cardinals other than the HRs, and there have certainly been flashes tonight. The stuff is certainly there.

 

I think it’s wise to stop trying to predict the future of any of the three based on a start here or there. Next week you’ll probably have to just insert Woody in this paragraph because he has a clunker. They’re young, inexperienced, but very talented. They’ll be given the time to figure things out to see if they can succeed in these roles.

[82brewcrew82]

Eh, these games happen. Cubs aren't a .160 winning percentage team and the Brewers aren't an .850 winning percentage team.

[RollieTime]

It’s been two starts for Burnes. He will be fine. We all expected there to be growing pains this season using three guys that have little to no starts at the major league level. There will be good and bad days for Burnes, Woodruff, and Peralta.

[adambr2]

I guess we're figuring we can't lose the game if we just don't record any more outs.

[Eye Black]

So far, the issue for Burnes is simple: his fastball up is nigh untouchable; if it slips to the middle of the zone, it gets hit out. A little of that has to be bad luck, because 6 HRs on an elite cutting fastball in two games is kind of ludicrous, but he still can’t leave that pitch there, plain and simple. If he figures out how to consistently locate that pitch, it sets up the entire rest of the arsenal and he’ll be really good. If not, he’ll continue to struggle, I think. Bottom line is, I’m excited for him, but he’s got a real issue. But at his level of experience, no one should be expecting Max Scherzer-esque performance.

I believe the Baez home run was on his slider, correct?

[BruisedCrew]

If you’re going to lose, might as well get blown out and not use your best relievers trying to chase a win.

 

By the time this is over the Brewers might have a negative run differential for the season.

[RollieTime]

I guess we're figuring we can't lose the game if we just don't record any more outs.

 

I’ve never thought of it that way... You’re a GENIUS!!

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

If you’re going to lose, might as well get blown out and not use your best relievers trying to chase a win.

 

By the time this is over the Brewers might have a negative run differential for the season.

 

Brewers still got 4 innings to chip away. This is an offense that can score runs in bunches too.

[PinaMadness]

You can tell the Cubs are in town.

 

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2019/04/06/brawl-breaks-out-miller-park/3387731002/

[HarveysWBs]

So far, the issue for Burnes is simple: his fastball up is nigh untouchable; if it slips to the middle of the zone, it gets hit out. A little of that has to be bad luck, because 6 HRs on an elite cutting fastball in two games is kind of ludicrous, but he still can’t leave that pitch there, plain and simple. If he figures out how to consistently locate that pitch, it sets up the entire rest of the arsenal and he’ll be really good. If not, he’ll continue to struggle, I think. Bottom line is, I’m excited for him, but he’s got a real issue. But at his level of experience, no one should be expecting Max Scherzer-esque performance.

I believe the Baez home run was on his slider, correct?

 

You may be right, I’ll have to look that up. It moves similarly to his cut fastball, though, and it ended up in the middle of the zone. If I can see it (and Fangraphs can see it https://blogs.fangraphs.com/corbin-burnes-spins-to-win/) then surely the coaches can see it, too. And the opposing hitters are definitely aware of it, if these two games are any indication...

[trwi7]

You can tell the Cubs are in town.

 

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2019/04/06/brawl-breaks-out-miller-park/3387731002/

 

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