2023 MLB Postseason Discussion

[Brewcrew82]

Pillar not scoring there is a killer. 

[markedman5]

I know it wouldn’t be great for TV ratings but I’d love to see Rangers vs DBACKS or even Phillies in the Workd Series .

 

[Bulldogboy]

I don't think Counsell goes to his closer in a big spot in the 7th. We probably get Peguero giving up a couple runs. There are better managers out there my friends. Trust me.

[sveumrules]

Kevin Pillar, Eddie Rosario and Vaughn Grissom make the last three outs for the Braves historically great offense.

[wiguy94]

Mookie and Freddie in the NLDS: 1-21 with 3 BB

Acuna and Olson in the NLDS: 6-30 2B, 3 BB, HBP

The likely top 4 NL MVP finishers with a postseason to forget.

[Bulldogboy]

8 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Kevin Pillar, Eddie Rosario and Vaughn Grissom make the last three outs for the Braves historically great offense.

The manager knew the game was the 7th inning and did what he had to do. Well played. More managers need to take note.

[Bulldogboy]

Braves could use Burnes too.

[SomewhereInTime]

Yep, this is why you don't expand the postseason in baseball.  What a disaster of a divisional series.

[LouisEly]

1 minute ago, Bulldogboy said:

The manager knew the game was the 7th inning and did what he had to do. Well played. More managers need to take note.

It got pretty hairy in the top of the 9th.  Two on and if Grissom gets on base Acuna's up with Kimbrel, Alvarado, and Dominguez already burned.  Could have easily backfired.

[Brewcrew82]

 

[Brewcrew82]

Also, for all the crapping on the Brewers' offense this season and the praising of the Dodgers' and Braves' star-powered offenses, the Brewers' scored more runs per game this postseason than the Dodgers and Braves...

[kalle8]

MVP of the BravesVsPhilly series is.....Brian Anderson, he was soooo good.

[torts]

7 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

Mookie and Freddie in the NLDS: 1-21 with 3 BB

Acuna and Olson in the NLDS: 6-30 2B, 3 BB, HBP

The likely top 4 NL MVP finishers with a postseason to forget.

That's why it's a regular season award /blue

[torts]

1 hour ago, kalle8 said:

MVP of the BravesVsPhilly series is.....Brian Anderson, he was soooo good.

He really is!  

[MrTPlush]

9 hours ago, Bulldogboy said:

I don't think Counsell goes to his closer in a big spot in the 7th. We probably get Peguero giving up a couple runs. There are better managers out there my friends. Trust me.

It would help if the Brewers didn’t suck so much and put Counsell in a situation to even decide to do something like that. I went back through the years…I could not find a semi-relevant spot he could have done something like that outside of 2018. 99% of the time our starter handed a losing game off to the bullpen or the closer blew it anyway.

It happened a few times in the NLCS in 2018, though that year was weird and basically had three closers. Jeffress was kinda the main guy by postseason time though.

Game 1 - Hader pitched three innings very early in the game

Game 2 - Jeffress and Knebel pitched the 7th/8th. 
 

Game 3 - Knebel came in during the 6th inning versus waiting for the 7th to use him.

Game 6 - Knebel and Jeffress both pitched mid game leading to Burnes taking the 8th/9th. Counsell was protecting his 5-2 lead at the time.

[kestrel79]

I thought the same thing, BA crushed it this post season. I listened here and there to every game, every series and he was by far the best play by play person. We are spoiled here...even if he's too good for us and doesn't do as many games :) I see why.

 

Yep Craigers in 2018 was a little more out of the box with the pen, he would do that stuff by going to the back end guys really quick.

[Nola Beery]

15 hours ago, torts said:

Call me a millennial but I like the chaos the expanded playoffs bring.  Bring on the chaos, the current format is perfect for that. 

Baseball needs to expand the playoffs more, make it a tournament like the Stanley cup (arguably the best professional league playoff tourny) that represents the grind of the season.  Play 150some games, and then play 3 rounds best of 7 to get to the world series best of 7.  If you won 100+ games that would be to your advantage. 

Until they do this, I wholely welcome our chaos overlords of this 3/5/7/7 format.  

I don't hate the "chaos"; that's how playoffs work.  But that doesn't change that I love the regular season rhythm much more (for reasons others and I have expressed earlier in this thread).  I guess what really bothers me is the simple fact that in the playoffs, the games and teams dwindle down until there ain't no more baseball! 😪   

[sveumrules]

21 hours ago, owbc said:

Maybe we're just living in an Astros dynasty and everyone else is mediocre? They don't seem to have any problems with the postseason format. And they also seem to have figured out that regular season wins don't matter. 

Same for the Phillies perhaps. Didn't Castellanos admit last year that he doesn't try as hard in the regular season? 

It's increasingly likely that the World Series will be a rematch of last year. That doesn't seem like random luck. 

Yeah, for as seemingly extra random as this postseason has been, the odds are favoring a rematch of last Fall Classic with HOU (33.8% WS odds at FanGraphs) and PHI (32.0%) favored over TEX (17.7%) and ARI (16.5%) entering the LCS.

At the same time, a rematch of last year would be a pretty extra random outcome in and of itself since the same two teams haven’t met in consecutive World Series since 1977/78.

[Nola Beery]

I guess it's time to quit moping and start appreciating the last baseball games until next Spring! 

I don't care much about who wins the AL, as by birth and upbringing, I have a very hard time cheering for any Texas team (though I do like Dusty Baker).  In the WS, I'll be for the NL winner.  Kinda leaning toward the Phils, but it might be some small consolation if the D-Backs who knocked us out went all the way.  

[MrTPlush]

1 hour ago, kestrel79 said:

I thought the same thing, BA crushed it this post season. I listened here and there to every game, every series and he was by far the best play by play person. We are spoiled here...even if he's too good for us and doesn't do as many games :) I see why.

 

Yep Craigers in 2018 was a little more out of the box with the pen, he would do that stuff by going to the back end guys really quick.

Too bad NFL is too stuck up with former players or else he would probably do that to. 

The point is, he really hasn't had the opportunity since then. It also doesn't help that he has two aces and another pretty elite guy in Peralta now. Back then the rotation was kind of 'meh' and it was much more logical to pull them before the other team saw them 3 or even just 2 times through the order. 

[TURBO]

10 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Also, for all the crapping on the Brewers' offense this season and the praising of the Dodgers' and Braves' star-powered offenses, the Brewers' scored more runs per game this postseason than the Dodgers and Braves...

So you are saying that the Brewers offense was pretty good this year and better than the Braves and Dodgers? 

You go right ahead and be content with the offense we continue to put on the field year in and year out, good for you, finding the positive in things even though it makes no sense to post such a comment.

 

[Nola Beery]

2 hours ago, kestrel79 said:

I thought the same thing, BA crushed it this post season. I listened here and there to every game, every series and he was by far the best play by play person. We are spoiled here...even if he's too good for us and doesn't do as many games :) I see why.....

Even before I knew BA was associated with the Brewers, I thought he was great play-by-play guy: He always seemed to be excited without being melodramatic; he usually didn't say too much; and he has the perfect voice timbre for a baseball announcer,

[sveumrules]

3 minutes ago, TURBO said:

So you are saying that the Brewers offense was pretty good this year and better than the Braves and Dodgers? 

You go right ahead and be content with the offense we continue to put on the field year in and year out, good for you, finding the positive in things even though it makes no sense to post such a comment.

 

I think all he's saying is that the Brewers (5 runs in 2 games), scored more runs per game this postseason than the Dodgers (6 runs in 3 games) or Braves (8 runs in 4 games). Nowhere did he say he was content with anything.

I think it makes plenty of sense to post the comment. It is another data point to show how truly random outcomes can occur over such small samples even to the very best teams in the game. Context is important.

If anyone said coming into the postseason that the Brewers offense would score more runs per game than the Braves or Dodgers they would have been openly mocked, and rightly so. But it still happened anyway...because the postseason is largely random.

[LouisEly]

11 minutes ago, TURBO said:

So you are saying that the Brewers offense was pretty good this year and better than the Braves and Dodgers? 

You go right ahead and be content with the offense we continue to put on the field year in and year out, good for you, finding the positive in things even though it makes no sense to post such a comment.

 

I think what the poster was implying is that having a better offense is no guarantee of anything in the postseason.

[Brock Beauchamp]

On 10/12/2023 at 9:28 AM, jerichoholicninja said:

While I guess it's "exciting" to see underdog teams do well in the playoffs it really cheapens what it means to win the world series to me. If we get a DBacks/Rangers world series, whoever wins, does anyone really feel like either of these teams are championship worthy? Neither would have been considered one of the best teams in baseball at any point during the regular season. I see so many posters lamenting that the Brewers will never win a world series in their lifetime for whatever reason but I just can't get too emotionally invested in the results of a handful of games over 3 weeks especially now when almost half the league makes the playoffs.

I think it's a bit unfair to lump the Diamondbacks and Rangers together. The Rangers missed a bye by losing a tiebreaker to the Astros. The Diamondbacks are unimpressive, sure, but the Rangers are quite good.