2024 NFL Draft - Packers Focused

[BrewerFan]

2 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

Yes, this whole thing is just odd.  Seems like a pre-draft smokescreen to me. 

Last pre-season, I was pretty vocal (can you be vocal with printed words??) about Tom moving to C, Myers to RG and having Bakh(pre-injury)/Nijman at LT/RT. But Tom barely even got snaps at C.  I can't remember a single snap in preseason at C; just some at RG if I recall. After Bakh was hurt, I can understand leaving Tom at RT, but he has barely spent any time at C since he was drafted. So, calling him a HOF center now... just seems odd. 

I suppose we need to assume our 1st round pick is a C this year... 😅

He was rotating back and forth with the 1st team in camp.

Gutekunst said when he was drafted, he thought his best position was Center.

It's certainly not a guarantee that they'll be able to get the OT they want or draft one in Rd1, but the question was about the Packers long-term Center. 

[BrewerFan]

2 hours ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

2021 Rodgers trade hindsight isn't that cut and dry though....trading Rodgers before the 2022 season started likely forces Love in at starter too soon and potentially warps his progression to the point the Packers may be looking for an alternative franchise qb in this draft instead of feeling like they're set there for the next 7-8 seasons.

When you have the reigning league MVP on your roster, you should have the luxury of sticking with him 1 year too long - especially if that timing also makes sense in your heir-apparent's development timeline.  I've got zero problems with waiting until last offseason to trade Rodgers with how things have turned out.  Taking a different approach and expecting a better outcome at present than the one the Packers have is truly asking for too much.

I agree. Of all the moves they made...in hindsight, getting 3 1sts and this absurd haul for Rodgers is the most appealing, but it just wasn't feasible at the time. Back to Back MVPs and it appeared like Love made a big jump between '22 and '23 and even then, he was pretty bad the first half of the season.

As for leverage, maybe they had it, maybe they didn't. I don't think Murphy coming out and talking about how much they'd hoped to trade Rodgers helped. It's a moot point now though. Just a passing comment on how it'd be nice to have the 10th pick. 

[Joseph Zarr]

On 2/23/2024 at 10:00 AM, Joseph Zarr said:

Scheduled Packers Visits: (As of Friday 2/22)

• Cam Johnson, WR - Northwestern
• Justin Blazed, DL - UW Platteville
• Rayshad Williams, DB - Texas Tech (@ Hula Bowl via Ryan Fowler)
• Akeem Dent, DB - FSU
• Winston Reid, LB - Weber State
• AJ Woods, DB - Pitt
• T'vondre Sweat, DL - Texas
• Spencer Rattler, QB - South Carolina
• Joe Milton, QB - Tennessee
• Max Melton, DB - Rutgers 
• James Cahoon, QB - Bridgewater State
• Myles Murphy, DL - UNC
• John Rhys Plumlee, QB - UCF
• Patrick Paul, OT - Houston
• Doug Nester, OL - West Virginia
• Curtis Jacobs, LB - Penn State
• Steele Chambers, LB - Ohio State
• MJ Devonshire, DB - Pittsburgh
• Aidan Robbins, RB - BYU
• Donovan Jennings, OL - FLorida  (@ Shrine Bowl via Justin Melo)
• Edgerrin Cooper, LB Texas A & M

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(2.29) Combine and more...

• Javon Bullard, S - Georgia...had an official visit with the Packers at the Combine (via MJ Hurley)
• Deiyantei Powell-Woods, OL -  Central Michigan (via Ryan Fowler)
• Evan Williams, S - Oregon (via MJ Hurley)
• Kamren Kinchens, S/DB - Miami (via MJ Hurley)
• Michael Pratt, QB - Tulane (via MJ Hurley)

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(3.21) Top 30 Visits et al Updated

• Khristian Boyd (stoked about this One) 
• Jarrian Jones, CB - Florida State (also stoked about this one😅)

 

I'm sure I've missed some others in here in the lead-up but two of my favorite DL prospects came in for visits this past week so I am happy to bump this and share it here:

 

[adambr2]

On 4/15/2024 at 12:58 PM, Fear The Chorizo said:

2021 Rodgers trade hindsight isn't that cut and dry though....trading Rodgers before the 2022 season started likely forces Love in at starter too soon and potentially warps his progression to the point the Packers may be looking for an alternative franchise qb in this draft instead of feeling like they're set there for the next 7-8 seasons.

When you have the reigning league MVP on your roster, you should have the luxury of sticking with him 1 year too long - especially if that timing also makes sense in your heir-apparent's development timeline.  I've got zero problems with waiting until last offseason to trade Rodgers with how things have turned out.  Taking a different approach and expecting a better outcome at present than the one the Packers have is truly asking for too much.

Why can it only be assumed that Love starting in 2022 would have been a bad thing? 

Sure, maybe he wasn't ready, but he didn't look ready in 2023 until he was. I'm not saying he would not have been worse in 2022 than he was in 2023, this is highly likely to be the case. But you could just as easily assume that maybe the extra year of starter reps made him in fact more prepared for 2023 and maybe he wins in San Francisco. 

Assuming it just ends up ruining him to start him after 2 years of development seems quite a leap to me. 

I'll stand by what my view at the time was, either both or neither of Rodgers and Adams should have been Packers in 2022 and the struggles that year were quite predictable.

 

[CheezWizHed]

On 4/15/2024 at 3:17 PM, BrewerFan said:

He was rotating back and forth with the 1st team in camp.

Gutekunst said when he was drafted, he thought his best position was Center.

It's certainly not a guarantee that they'll be able to get the OT they want or draft one in Rd1, but the question was about the Packers long-term Center. 

I only remember him taking some reps in practice at C.  In the games, he either played very little or none at C.  That was one of things I was watching closely because (at least last offseason), I was hoping it would happen.  Even kind of expecting it as people were speculating that it was his best position.  

But when you play a full season at RT and rank in the top 10 (going off memory) tackles in the game... it is really hard to move him off just a valuable position for an inside role. 

[BrewerFan]

12 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

I only remember him taking some reps in practice at C.  In the games, he either played very little or none at C.  That was one of things I was watching closely because (at least last offseason), I was hoping it would happen.  Even kind of expecting it as people were speculating that it was his best position.  

But when you play a full season at RT and rank in the top 10 (going off memory) tackles in the game... it is really hard to move him off just a valuable position for an inside role. 

I agree, it'd be tough to move him. 

I don't think it'd be even a discussion until Myers was gone and he was signed to an extension. 

 

[BrewerFan]

There's a lot of very interesting players among those who are visiting, but one who I think could be a massive steal is Joe Milton.

If he's there in Rd5, I'd be very happy to see the Packers take him. 6'5, built like a TE with elite speed, and just a cannon for an arm. It's worth taking a flier on him and seeing if Tom Clement can do something with him. 

I also love seeing Zach Zinter in there. I think he'd be the top IOL in this draft, or at least the top OG if not for the injury. Pretty substantial injury, but he's supposed to be ready to go for camp. He also has a little positional versatility. 

[CheezWizHed]

19 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

I agree, it'd be tough to move him. 

I don't think it'd be even a discussion until Myers was gone and he was signed to an extension. 

 

I still tend to see Myers a better G than C.  Seems to me that one of his major problems is being a tick late off the snap (i.e. reach blocks or simply pulling).  So if you eliminate the responsibilities of snapping the ball, he could focus more on simply executing. 

[BrewerFan]

7 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

I still tend to see Myers a better G than C.  Seems to me that one of his major problems is being a tick late off the snap (i.e. reach blocks or simply pulling).  So if you eliminate the responsibilities of snapping the ball, he could focus more on simply executing. 

Agreed. If we played a gap scheme, he'd probably be fine but he doesn't move well enough in space. I think they ran more gap than ZB at the end of last year and in the playoffs when they were rotating Rhyan in...but I don't know that to be true. It may just have stood out more because those two are so much better with that type of run blocking than they are in the ZBS. 

I do think Myers is athletic enough to play OG in this offense though. And when he latches on, he moves people. 

Barton could be a really interesting player. I'm not sure the Packers take a guy who's most likely just an IOL in Rd1 and he'd probably be gone before #41. If the reports that executives aren't as high on JPJ as the analysts who make the big boards, he could be an answer. 

It'll be interesting to see what they do, but the Packers have to get their OL settled. Love's getting probably at least 5/250. The salary cap looks good now, but the way to keep it in good shape it obviously not overpaying mediocre players. JRJ got 3/30. I would think Myers could get something close to that on the open market. That's a lot to pay. On top of that, IMO, the best way to evaluate need is to make a list of the top ~5-8 players who would hurt the Packers the most if they went down due to injury. The QB is always on that list. 

At the moment, I'd have Jenkins and Tom in that top 6-8 and probably even Walker(and I'm not a particular fan, though I think he's solid enough).

They have nothing at RG right now. Sean Rhyan has shown little to suggest he can be a starter there. He rotated with JRJ who was banged up last year and his backup at the moment is...Royce Newman? 

I don't know if they go OL Rd1 of Rd2, but I would expect them to come out of this draft with 3-4 OL drafted and ideally, a couple between Day1 and Day2. 

#41 COULD be the ideal place to take an OL. Someone like Guyton, Morgan, Suamatia, Barton, if they slide past SF/Baltimore, they'd all be great fits and I think all of them have positional versatility. You'd draft Guyton to hopefully make him a future OT, but he bends well enough to play Guard. 

It's a good time to be a Packers fan. 5 picks in the top ~90 with the young talent we have? Halfway into this year, we were wondering if the Packers had the right QB in place or if they'd need to give up a ton of draft capital to get one. 

 

[Fear The Chorizo]

When you look at the number of picks the Packers have in the top 100 of this draft, it's exciting knowing that the youngest NFL team is going to add a significant amount more of young talent no matter what positions they pick.

The other thing that hasn't been talked about much, but I think could easily happen, is the Packers swinging multiple trades during the draft to either move up or flat out add more picks to their dance card using some of their young players at positions where they have a ton of depth already in the building that is going to struggle to see the field but showed enough promise where the Packers might be thinking of selling high to a team in need of young talent that is pick-limited this year.  Thinking WR specifically.

[JosephC]

My preferred approach would be as follows.

Primary need areas, in order:  LB, S, LT, OG, CB

No LB or S worth taking in round one (could argue that none are worth a top 40 pick),  Left tackle is the #1 round one target.  Three LT worth #25, all pretty much guaranteed to be off the board at #25.

Would look to trade up in round one to get a LT.  Cannot deal either second round pick to save for LB, S or other value pick.  As such, probably only have the ammo to move up 6 or 7 spots (#25 + 3rd +5th).  Would take Fautanu or Fashanu (less likely he slips that far).  If those tackles are unobtainable, I just hope a pray a dropper that I like makes it to #25 (CB-Nate Wiggins).  If not, then I'm looking to move down, and down far enough (11-14 spots) to pick up an extra 3rd rounder in the swap.  If I can accomplish that, then I have 3 seconds and 3 thirds, and the first of those picks can be used strictly as a "best player on the board" pick and not worry about need at all.

Round two, first pick...likely just go with S-Tyler Nubin.  I have concerns because (1) I watch the Badger/Gopher game every year and just didn't see him as a standout (but certainly not a bad player either) and (2) sounds like his workout was terrible (was coming off knee surgery).  But there are enough positive reviews from sources I trust (Ourlads would be one) that I'd be comfortable with the Packers picking him here.  He should be on the board.

Round two, second pick...likely just go with LB-Jeremiah Trotter.  He's small, but I've come to like him a lot.  Sounds like the top guy in terms of linebacker instincts, reading and reacting, and being where he is supposed to be.  Linebacker and safety, I'd always go with average athletes who know how to play rather than the super athletes that run themselves out of more plays than they actually make.  On the board, I think he is projecting more as a mid-third rounder, but I'd be content to take him here.

Rounds three and four...currently have 3 picks, top priority would be two offensive linemen, one that projects at LT (assuming I could not get a round one tacke) and one that projects as a guard.  It's very possible that finding a LT worth the pick in these rounds could be tough.  So with the third pick would look to either get a CB (assuming I did not take Nate Wiggins in round one) or another LB.

Rounds five through seven...fill whatever LT/OG/CB/LB hole is left that I couldn't fill earlier.  Assuming I've already drafted 1 LB and a S earlier.  Would like to grab a developmental QB and another DB (best player on the board, CB or S does not matter).  So adding up all of the above, would like to come out of this draft with a QB/2 OL/2 LB/3 DB...which leaves me 3 picks that I can completely ignore the board with and just go "best player available."  If I deal down early, I'd probably look to move up later.  Would be completely happy with 10 drafted players, so starting with 11 picks, I'm not adverse to moving up, although I don't think I'd do it with either of the round two picks.

[bjkrautk]

Considering the location for the 2025 NFL Draft, I would not be at all surprised if Green Bay moved some of their picks this year for extra Day 1-2 picks next year.  Next year's draft is expected to be deeper as a combination of NIL and the extra year of eligibility from Covid, so it might make business sense as well.

I have done less research on this year's draft than most past seasons.  My expectation is their first round pick will be an OL or a DB, though I would never count out a DL pick if the Murphy or Newton slips (only so many guys that size).  The pick at 41 could well be a guy who has been discussed for the Packers' first pick...I just don't see either Barton or DeJean being the guy who slides that far.

[BrewerFan]

17 hours ago, JosephC said:

My preferred approach would be as follows.

Primary need areas, in order:  LB, S, LT, OG, CB

Totally agree with almost all of this post... That's why this is a great year to have those extra picks. Allows you to move up or down a bit. All obvious needs. I think we could get by with a day 3 LB. I don't think it'd be ideal. CB is up in the air with Stokes...who had a great rookie season in press man for rookie standards, but then struggled badly, got injured and that injured lingered so long...

It's Jaire(injured), Valentine who I like, but he was about an average starter last year(PFF has him graded worse, I don't agree entirely, but solid either way). Nixon is not an ideal slot. 
So ideally, you find someone to play the slot and then a boundary CB you can develop and who can hopefully come in at some point this year and contribute...assuming it's not Mitchell or someone who looks ready to play right now.

17 hours ago, JosephC said:

No LB or S worth taking in round one (could argue that none are worth a top 40 pick),  Left tackle is the #1 round one target.  Three LT worth #25, all pretty much guaranteed to be off the board at #25.

I also agree...I'd argue DeJean is worth taking there as he's more likely a Safety. If you have him listed as a CB, that makes more sense, but again, that fallback position is so valuable. Gives you such a high floor(though not a premium position).

Watching how Free Agency played out, I have to believe the Packers sign Kamren Curl if they know he's getting just ~9 over 2 years. That was the steal of Free Agency. He's exceptional in coverage, vs the run. He's not a big play guy, but he is very much like an Amos guy and he can play both CF, but better in the box.

--Totally agree with LT as the target in Rd1.

I'd just push back and say that I think you can take a RT. Tyler Guyton for example. I would have no problem drafting him, starting him at OG(his knee bend is great)...or letting him take snaps all over. He moves so well, I think his issue is more the time spent at DT and just being raw. I don't see any part of his game that doesn't translate to LT.

 

Zach Tom can play either OT also. So if you did take Fuaga(likely gone) you could let him compete at OG with Rhyan and whoever else you drafted and you could always kick Tom over to LT.

17 hours ago, JosephC said:

Would look to trade up in round one to get a LT.  Cannot deal either second round pick to save for LB, S or other value pick.  As such, probably only have the ammo to move up 6 or 7 spots (#25 + 3rd +5th).  Would take Fautanu or Fashanu (less likely he slips that far).  If those tackles are unobtainable, I just hope a pray a dropper that I like makes it to #25 (CB-Nate Wiggins).  If not, then I'm looking to move down, and down far enough (11-14 spots) to pick up an extra 3rd rounder in the swap.  If I can accomplish that, then I have 3 seconds and 3 thirds, and the first of those picks can be used strictly as a "best player on the board" pick and not worry about need at all.

I've heard people say that the Scouts and Front offices aren't as high on Fautanu, JPJ and Fashanu as the media big boards are.

Fashanu is a blue blood. It's just a matter of cleaning up the inconsistencies. He was the "way too early" top 5 pick. Now I've seen him down to 15-18.

Fautanu-He fits the Packers recent draft criteria nearly perfectly. You slide him in at RG this year...just to get the best 5 out there, he's an NFL OT, but to ease him in and I think he's your 3rd best OL right away. 

I think the Packers are going to be moving up and down the board though. Fautanu or Fashanu falls to 20, I think they'd be very eager to go up and get him. 

18 hours ago, JosephC said:

 

Round two, first pick...likely just go with S-Tyler Nubin.  I have concerns because (1) I watch the Badger/Gopher game every year and just didn't see him as a standout (but certainly not a bad player either) and (2) sounds like his workout was terrible (was coming off knee surgery).  But there are enough positive reviews from sources I trust (Ourlads would be one) that I'd be comfortable with the Packers picking him here.  He should be on the board.

I really can't stand the gatekeepers who say "he's not on the Packers board," and offer these absolutes when the Packers have broken with several thresholds, BUT...you think Nubin would be a guy the Packers would go after?

Nubin and his 2.91 RAS score, I'd guess that took him off the Packers board. His agility testing was awful, that's the testing the Packers seem to rely on the most. That would probably be the worst athlete the Packers have taken in the draft under Gute...even including late rd picks.

It's possible the knee injury was the cause, but I think that's a hard  sell for a safety to do what Hafley wants his safeties to do. And while you have McKinney, you really want those guys to be able to rotate and be somewhat interchangeable. I think we get more of a box safety, but I think someone like Bishop fits that profile better.

18 hours ago, JosephC said:

Round two, second pick...likely just go with LB-Jeremiah Trotter.  He's small, but I've come to like him a lot.  Sounds like the top guy in terms of linebacker instincts, reading and reacting, and being where he is supposed to be.  Linebacker and safety, I'd always go with average athletes who know how to play rather than the super athletes that run themselves out of more plays than they actually make.  On the board, I think he is projecting more as a mid-third rounder, but I'd be content to take him here.

Are you playing Quay as the Mike and Trotter as the Will here? I like Trotter, the lineage, FB IQ, it all fits, but for rd2, again, the Packers would really be going outside their "thresholds." These are obviously not absolute thresholds again, but I think Wilson, Cooper(who may be gone) or Colson later on are all better fits. I also like Ford as a MLB...problem is I don't think he's your #2 nickel LB. 

18 hours ago, JosephC said:

Rounds three and four...currently have 3 picks, top priority would be two offensive linemen, one that projects at LT (assuming I could not get a round one tacke) and one that projects as a guard.  It's very possible that finding a LT worth the pick in these rounds could be tough.  So with the third pick would look to either get a CB (assuming I did not take Nate Wiggins in round one) or another LB.

I think there are going to be a lot of lean, press type CBs available in this area. OL, Blake Fisher, I like him a lot. Alt overshadows him. An OG like McCormick or Zinter if he falls due to the leg injury. 

 

18 hours ago, JosephC said:

Rounds five through seven...fill whatever LT/OG/CB/LB hole is left that I couldn't fill earlier.  Assuming I've already drafted 1 LB and a S earlier.  Would like to grab a developmental QB and another DB (best player on the board, CB or S does not matter).  So adding up all of the above, would like to come out of this draft with a QB/2 OL/2 LB/3 DB...which leaves me 3 picks that I can completely ignore the board with and just go "best player available."  If I deal down early, I'd probably look to move up later.  Would be completely happy with 10 drafted players, so starting with 11 picks, I'm not adverse to moving up, although I don't think I'd do it with either of the round two picks.

Jordan McGee from Temple could be a gem in the later rds.

Joe MIlton would be a great pick in my opinion. 
Jaheim Bell could be a revelatin after Degura. He's an imperfect player, but he's such a dynamic play maker, I think he would be the guy they hoped they were getting in Degura. Sinnott is a guy who they could go after in Rd4. 

That's been a priority before.

CB/S, Watts from Texas is a guy I've been high on. He's a converted CB, he's 6'3 205, 9.5 RAS IIRC. He'd be an outstanding coverage safety, but there are questions about his ability to play the run obviously. 

 

I really don't have any idea if they're willing to trade up in the draft, but if they do, I think they'll make it up by trading down a couple times to add picks in the 5th-6th rd just to take a couple more shots.

 

This was a fluke-ish Mock and they're totally meaningless, but as I've said, I think OL is so important, I'd be fine doubling up on it early.

 

(I took Karty on accident, so I threw a 4th at them just to make the mock work). 

I'd like to see 3-4 OL
2-3 DBs(I want to see Ford back, he was much better in coverage last year than I think he gets credit for and AJJ was a guy who was mocked as a 3-4th rd pick...I don't think it's wild that he's the other starter at safety, but you still need young players there, either to help this year or to develop).

LB-I have Cooper/Wilson as my two favorites. I think Cooper has been unfairly labeled a Will and I don't see why.
Ford is a thumber, he's not a nickel LB. I don't think you take him there if you do get a guy like Cooper, but...you could.

Fautanu and Morgan can both play LT/OG. Zinter could play OT apparently...he's got the length and the feet(I don't really see it, he looks more like a mauler and OG only, but I've seen some argue he has a little positional versatility). 

Bullard-To be honest, I don't really know much about him. He reminds me a bit of Haha, but people are higher on him, so I thought he was a good fit. 

[BrewerFan]

18 hours ago, bjkrautk said:

Considering the location for the 2025 NFL Draft, I would not be at all surprised if Green Bay moved some of their picks this year for extra Day 1-2 picks next year.  Next year's draft is expected to be deeper as a combination of NIL and the extra year of eligibility from Covid, so it might make business sense as well.

I have done less research on this year's draft than most past seasons.  My expectation is their first round pick will be an OL or a DB, though I would never count out a DL pick if the Murphy or Newton slips (only so many guys that size).  The pick at 41 could well be a guy who has been discussed for the Packers' first pick...I just don't see either Barton or DeJean being the guy who slides that far.

I saw someone else talk about this. Maybe Andy Herman. He discussed trade up/trade down potentials.

Basically trading up for Alt(I think that was his hypothetical) would require a #25 and a 2025 1st. He did say he didn't think Gute would do that either way unless Gute loved a player as he's been aggressive, but he's never been THAT aggressive.

The other possibility was trading down from 25 and he threw out the idea that you could add a 1st from a team like Denver, IF one of the QBs is still on the board at 25 and they want to get him in the 1st to get that 5th-year option

 

SO, hypothetically, Denver wants Penix or Nix, they offer #76, #121, and 2025 1st.

If THAT trade is offered, Gute's voice shoots up about 10 octaves, his hamstring rips from the bone as he runs to send that trade in! And then he probably starts to look to move up from pick #41 and move back up into the end of the 1st rd. But a 1st rd pick from a team like Denver could have an enormous franchise-altering impact. That team is such a mess, that could be a top 5 pick if not a Bears-type situation with the Panthers this past year. 

I'd be more skeptical that Payton would do this...if he hadn't done it in the past. 

 

I do not believe that they'll make a concerted effort to add picks for next years draft. I think they approach this draft trying to just have the best draft possible and if they add a future pick, that'd be an ancillary benefit, not the driving motivation.

Better to celebrate the 32nd pick when hosting the NFL draft than anything else!

[patrickgpe]

looking around at some mock drafts this AM, and see Mims often at 25. That is my least favorite possible pick. Couldn't stay healthy and his size concerns me that he will have similar problems in the pros.

 I think my favorite picks at 25 are: DeJean, Wiggins, Barton, Morgan, or Guyton

[BrewerFan]

18 hours ago, patrickgpe said:

looking around at some mock drafts this AM, and see Mims often at 25. That is my least favorite possible pick. Couldn't stay healthy and his size concerns me that he will have similar problems in the pros.

 I think my favorite picks at 25 are: DeJean, Wiggins, Barton, Morgan, or Guyton

I agree. Mims may be too much to pass up at #41, but #25 with limited playing time, seems like a high-risk signing but with too much risk. 

Guyton is one of the biggest boom or bust prospects in that range. 

Wiggins would be interesting for the reasons mentioned. He's just so skinny. 

[Joseph Zarr]

This is a great read for any of us (not saying it is us - but, who knows...) who get a little bit too serious about our Draft Takes. I know I have personally taken a back seat over the past five years plus. Mainly, because I focus so dutifully on the Minor Leagues now. I used to consider myself a draft head and then I found @LouisEly's write-ups and realized I didn't know jack diddly. LOL.

You Are Very Bad at Draft Analysis (Title of the article)

[jay87shot]

I really don't like Guyton or Mims in the 1st. Barton would be ok but I am not sold on him I would rather take tackle in the 2nd or 3rd. I really like Suamataia from  BYU in the 2nd, I think there is the upside of Penei Sewell with a little time and coaching. We can give him the time with Walker and Tom (Dillard) and our coaches have been good at maximizing potential.

1) C Jackson Powers-Johnson  I love the strength and ability to jump start a power running game.

2)T Kingley Suamataia.  Upside, upside, upside. I feel this is like getting a top 10 pick if you redshirt him next year.

2) S Cole Bishop   I am not sure what to make of the S class. Bishop is probably my favorite but could easily be one of our 3rd round picks.

3)LB Junior Colson   I don't love any on LB prospect. Colson seems like he would be a good partner with Walker.

3) TE Cade Stover    Think of all the receivers OSU has had. He is another lost 1st round talent. With Musgrave, Kraft, and Stover we could keep 2 TE'S on the field all day with mismatches.

4) LB  Trevin Wallace.   With no surefire LB, I like doubling up here. Wallace is a bit more of a wildcard than Colson

5) S Tyler Owens    This would be another upside/athletism pick, 4.3 40 with a 42 inch vertical at 6'2" 219 seems worthy of a late 5th. Might be able to play CB as well.

6)RB Jase McCllelen    All around solid RB, would make a nice 3rd RB who can be a solid #2 in short order

6) RB Kamani Vidal   I think there are a bunch of Aaron Jones similarities here. Double up an rb because we can.

7) CB Tarheeb Still    5 Int's at Maryland, definitely overlooked.

7) QB Kedon Slovis   Looked amazing as a Freshman, probably enough upside to warrant a late pick.

This draft would fill holes, add depth and provide a bunch of high upside talent.

[CheeseheadInQC]

21 hours ago, Joseph Zarr said:

This is a great read for any of us (not saying it is us - but, who knows...) who get a little bit too serious about our Draft Takes. I know I have personally taken a back seat over the past five years plus. Mainly, because I focus so dutifully on the Minor Leagues now. I used to consider myself a draft head and then I found @LouisEly's write-ups and realized I didn't know jack diddly. LOL.

You Are Very Bad at Draft Analysis (Title of the article)

I agree about the thresholds. I always thought especially the offensive linemen it was more a product of what traits they valued more than other teams (agility) vs. what they valued less than other teams (arm length). Therefore they drafted a lot of shorter, quicker linemen. It doesn't mean that the Packers wouldn't draft guys over a certain height, it is just that the arm length that usually went along with the height was more prized by other teams than the Packers so they were higher on other boards than the Packers'. I don't think it should be used to say the Packers wouldn't draft an offensive lineman over whatever height.

My one draft rule is don't pick receivers because of H/W/S or for a specific role before round 5. Pick receivers who are skilled at actually playing the position (route running, etc.). I fully acknowledge I am not the guy to make those judgements, but it just seems like the football skill guys bust at a lot lower rate than the athletic skill guys at that position.

[Joseph Zarr]

14 hours ago, jay87shot said:

I really don't like Guyton or Mims in the 1st. Barton would be ok but I am not sold on him I would rather take tackle in the 2nd or 3rd. I really like Suamataia from  BYU in the 2nd, I think there is the upside of Penei Sewell with a little time and coaching. We can give him the time with Walker and Tom (Dillard) and our coaches have been good at maximizing potential.

1) C Jackson Powers-Johnson  I love the strength and ability to jump start a power running game.

2)T Kingley Suamataia.  Upside, upside, upside. I feel this is like getting a top 10 pick if you redshirt him next year.

2) S Cole Bishop   I am not sure what to make of the S class. Bishop is probably my favorite but could easily be one of our 3rd round picks.

3)LB Junior Colson   I don't love any on LB prospect. Colson seems like he would be a good partner with Walker.

3) TE Cade Stover    Think of all the receivers OSU has had. He is another lost 1st round talent. With Musgrave, Kraft, and Stover we could keep 2 TE'S on the field all day with mismatches.

4) LB  Trevin Wallace.   With no surefire LB, I like doubling up here. Wallace is a bit more of a wildcard than Colson

5) S Tyler Owens    This would be another upside/athletism pick, 4.3 40 with a 42 inch vertical at 6'2" 219 seems worthy of a late 5th. Might be able to play CB as well.

6)RB Jase McCllelen    All around solid RB, would make a nice 3rd RB who can be a solid #2 in short order

6) RB Kamani Vidal   I think there are a bunch of Aaron Jones similarities here. Double up an rb because we can.

7) CB Tarheeb Still    5 Int's at Maryland, definitely overlooked.

7) QB Kedon Slovis   Looked amazing as a Freshman, probably enough upside to warrant a late pick.

This draft would fill holes, add depth and provide a bunch of high upside talent.

I just wanted to say: 

I absolutely LOVE the idea of JP-J being a Packer. That man is an absolute beast. And, I am quite surprised he is so glaringly under-discussed going to the Packers around pick 25. The man did not lose a single rep at the Senior Bowl. And, in those reps, according to those that were in attendance he was utterly dominant. If we were looking to upgrade the interior of the line, imho, this is how we do it. I would be 100% Day 1 all-aboard this hype train. 

Carry on...

[JosephC]

Seven round mock with round one trades.

I didn't proof-read it, so pleas forgive the occasional error/typo.

I used this as the primary list to determine needs - https://www.nfl.com/news/2024-nfl-draft-first-round-order-top-five-needs-for-all-32-teams-following-free-agency-frenzy - and then around round five switched to this list as it contained more than 5 need areas for each team - https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-nfl-draft-order-biggest-needs-for-every-team-plus-key-free-agent-signings-departures-for-all-32-clubs/

ROUND ONE

1.  Bears – Caleb Williams/QB/USC

Vikings get #2 and #78 (third)…Commanders get #11, #23. #108 (fourth), #157 (fifth) and 2025 first round pick

2.  Vikings – Jayden Daniels/QB/LSU

3.  Patriots – Drake Maye/QB/North Carolina

4.  Cardinals – Marvin Harrison Jr./WR/Ohio State

5.  Chargers – Malik Nabers/WR/LSU

6.  Giants – Rome Odunze/WR/Washington

Commanders get #7…Titans get #11, #67 (third) and #100 (fourth)

7.  Commanders – J.J. McCarthy/QB/Michigan

8.  Falcons – Dallas Turner/EDGE/Alabama

Titans get #9…Bears get #11 and #100 (fourth)

9.  Titans – Joe Alt/OT/Notre Dame

10.  Jets – Brock Bowers/TE/Georgia

11.  Bears – Jared Verse/EDGE/Florida State

12.  Broncos – Quinyon Mitchell/CB/Toledo

13.  Raiders – Terrion Arnold/CB/Alabama

14.  Saints – Olumuyiwa Fashanu/OT/Penn State

Rams get #15…Colts get #19 and #83

15.  Rams – Byron Murphy II/DL/Texas

Commanders get #16…Seahawks get #36 (second), #40 (second) and #222 (seventh)

16.  Commanders – Troy Fautanu/OT/Washington

17.  Jaguars – J.C. Latham/OT/Alabama

18.  Bengals – Taliese Fuaga/OT/Oregon State

19.  Colts – Cooper DeJean/CB/Iowa

20.  Steelers – Brian Thomas Jr./WR/LSU

21.  Dolphins – Graham Barton/OG/Duke

22.  Eagles – Nate Wiggins/CB/Clemson

23.  Commanders – Chop Robinson/EDGE/Penn State

24.  Dallas Cowboys – Tyler Guyton/OT/Oklahoma

Cardinals get #25 and #126 (fourth)…Packers get #35 (second) and #71 (third)

25.  Cardinals – Laiatu Latu/EDGE/UCLA

26.  Buccaneers – Kool-Aid McKinstry/CB/Alabama

49ers get #27 and #126 (fourth)…Cardinals get #31 and #94 (third)

27.  49ers – Amarius Mims/OT/Georgia

28.  Bills – Adonai Mitchell/WR/Texas

Falcons get #29 and #164 (fifth)…Lions get #43 (second) and #79 (third)

29.  Falcons – Jer’Zhan Newton/DL/Illinois

Patriots get #30 and #165 (fifth)…Ravens get #34 and #103 (fourth)

30.  New England Patriots – Jordan Morgan/OT/Arizona

31.  Cardinals – Ennis Rakestraw Jr./CB/Missouri

32.  Chiefs – Troy Franklin/WR/Oregon

ROUND TWO

33.  Panthers – Ladd McConkey/WR/Georgia

34.  Ravens – Xavier Worthy/WR/Texas

35.  Packers – Edgerrin Cooper/LB/Texas A&M

36.  Seahawks – Braden Fiske/DL/Florida State

37.  Chargers – Kamari Lassiter/CB/Georgia

38.  Titans – Ricky Pearsall/WR/Florida

39.  Panthers – Jackson Powers-Johnson/C/Oregon

40.  Seahawks – Payton Wilson/LB/NC State

41.  Packers – Christian Haynes/OG/UConn

42.  Texans – Ja’Tavion Sanders/TE/Texas

43.  Lions – Tyler Nubin/S/Minnesota

44.  Raiders – Bo Nix/QB/Oregon

45.  Saints – Malachi Corley/WR/Western Kentucky

46.  Colts – Xavier Legette/WR/South Carolina

47.  Giants – Jonathon Brooks/RB/Texas

48.  Jaguars – Kris Jenkins/DT/Michigan

49.  Bengals – Keon Coleman/WR/Florida State

50.  Eagles – Cooper Beebe/OG/Kansas State

51.  Steelers – Kingsley Suamataia/OT/BYU

52.  Rams – Chris Braswell/EDGE/Alabama

53.  Eagles – Jaden Hicks/S/Washington State

54.  Browns – Junior Colson/LB/Michigan

55.  Dolphins – Ruke Orhorhoro/DL/Clemson

56.  Cowboys – Zach Frazier/C/West Virginia

57.  Buccaneers – Adisa Isaac/EDGE/Penn State

58.  Packers – Javon Bullard/S/Georgia

59.  Texans – Darius Robinson/DE/Missouri

60.  Bills – T’Vondre Sweat/DL/Texas

61.  Lions – Mike Sainristil/CB/Michigan

62.  Ravens – Blake Fisher/OT/Notre Dame

63.  49ers – Roman Wilson/WR/Michigan

64.  Chiefs – Max Melton/CB/Rutgers

ROUND THREE

65.  Panthers – T.J. Tampa/CB/Iowa State

66.  Cardinals – Jaylen Wright/RB/Tennessee

67.  Titans – Marshawn Kneeland/EDGE/Western Michigan

68.  Patriots – Ja’Lynn Polk/WR/Washington

69.  Chargers – Patrick Paul/OT/Houston

70.  Giants – Kris Abrams-Draine/CB/Missouri

71.  Packers – Kiran Amegadjie/OT/Yale

72.  Jets – Javon Baker/WR/UCF

73.  Lions – Bralen Trice/EDGE/Washington

74.  Falcons – Calen Bullock/S/USC

75.  Bears – Devontez Walker/WR/North Carolina

76.  Broncos – Michael Penix Jr./QB/Washington

77.  Raiders – Jermaine Burton/WR/Alabama

78.  Vikings – Austin Booker/EDGE/Kansas

79.  Lions – Malik Washington/WR/Virginia

80.  Bengals – Michael Hall Jr./DL/Ohio State

81.  Seahawks – Cade Stover/TE/Ohio State

82.  Colts – Trey Benson/RB/Florida State

83.  Colts – Dadrion Taylor-Demerson/S/Texas Tech

84.  Steelers – Andru Phillips/CB/Kentucky

85.  Browns – Ben Sinnott/TE/Kansas State

86.  Texans – Khyree Jackson/CB/Oregon

87.  Cowboys – Maason Smith/DL/LSU

88.  Packers – DJ James/CB/Auburn

89.  Buccaneers – Sedrick Van Pran-Granger/C/Georgia

90.  Cardinals – Dominick Puni/OG/Kansas

91.  Packers – Jeremiah Trotter Jr./LB/Clemson

92.  Buccaneers – Cole Bishop/S/Utah

93.  Ravens – Jonah Elliss/EDGE/Utah

94.  Cardinals – Brandon Dorius/DL/Oregon

95.  Chiefs – Roger Rosengarten/OT/Washington

96.  Jaguars – Renardo Green/CB/Florida State

97.  Bengals – Theo Johnson/TE/Penn State

98.  Steelers – Christian Mahogany/OG/Boston College

99.  Rams – Javon Foster/OT/Missouri

ROUND FOUR

100.  Bears – DeWayne Carter/DL/Duke

101.  Panthers – Mekhi Wingo/DL/LSU

102.  Seahawks – Matt Goncalves/OG/Pittsburgh

103.  Ravens – Kamren Kichens/S/Miami

104.  Cardinals – Spencer Rattler/QB/South Carolina

105.  Chargers – Blake Corum/RB/Michigan

106.  Titans – Leonard Taylor/DL/Miami

107.  Giants – Michael Pratt/QB/Tulane

108.  Commanders – Jalen McMillan/WR/Washington

109.  Falcons – Nehemiah Pritchett/CB/Auburn

110.  Chargers – Zak Zinter/OG/Michigan

111.  Jets – Caelen Carson/CB/Wake Forest

112.  Raiders – Brandon Coleman/OG/TCU

113.  Ravens – Mason McCormick/OG/South Dakota State

114.  Jaguars – Mohamed Kamara/EDGE/Colorado State

115.  Bengals – Myles Harden/CB/South Dakota

116.  Jaguars – Johnny Wilson/WR/Florida State

117.  Colts – Javon Solomon/EDGE/Troy

118.  Seahawks – Gabriel Murphy/EDGE/UCLA

119.  Steelers – Cedric Gray/LB/North Carolina

120.  Eagles – Ainias Smith/WR/Texas A&M

121.  Broncos – Christian Jones/OT/Texas

122.  Bears – Delmar Glaze/OT/Maryland

123.  Texans – Tommy Eichenberg/LB/Ohio State

124.  49ers – Elijah Jones/CB/Boston College

125.  Buccaneers – Jaylon Ford/LB/Texas

126.  49ers – Caedan Wallace/OG/Penn State

127.  Texans – Hunter Nourzad/C/Penn State

128.  Bills – Jalyx Hunt/EDGE/Houston Christian University

129.  Vikings – Luke McCaffery/WR/Rice

130.  Ravens – Dwight McGlothern/CB/Arkansas

131.  Chiefs – MarShawn Lloyd/RB/USC

132.  49ers – Brennan Jackson/EDGE/Washington State

133.  Buffalo – Braelon Allen/RB/Wisconsin

134.  Jets – Kitan Oladapo/S/Oregon State

ROUND FIVE

135.  49ers – Trevin Wallace/LB/Kentucky

136.  Broncos – Xavier Thomas/EDGE/Clemson

137.  Patriots – McKinnley Jackson/DL/Texas A&M

138.  Cardinals – Tyler Davis/DL/Clemson

139.  Commanders – Kalen King/CB/Penn State

140.  Chargers – Fabien Lovett Sr./DL/Florida State

141.  Panthers – Jared Wiley/TE/TCU

142.  Panthers – Cedric Johnson/EDGE/Mississippi

143.  Falcons – Jacob Cowing/WR/Arizona

144.  Bills – Tykee Smith/S/Georgia

145.  Broncos – Justin Egoigbe/DL/Alabama

146.  Titans – Marist Liufau/LB/Notre Dame

147.  Broncos – Sataoa Laumea/OG/Utah

148.  Raiders – Ray Davis/RB/Kentucky

149.  Bengals – Tanor Bortolini/OG/Wisconsin

150.  New Orleans – Josh Newton/CB/TCU

151.  Colts – Trevor Keegan/OG/Michigan

152.  Commanders – Beau Bride/S/Maryland

153.  Jaguars – Beaux Limmer/C/Arkansas

154.  Rams – Jarvis Brownlee Jr./CB/Louisville

155.  Rams – Bucky Irving/RB/Oregon

156.  Browns – Anthony Gould/WR/Oregon State

157.  Commanders – Isaiah Adams/OG/Illinois

158.  Dolphins – Erick All/TE/Iowa

159.  Chiefs – Javion Cohen/OG/Miami

160.  Bills – Cam Hart/CB/Notre Dame

161.  Eagles – Curtis Jacobs/LB/Penn State

162.  Cardinals – Tyrice Knight/LB/UTEP

163.  Bills – Nathan Thomas/OT/Louisiana-Lafeyette

164.  Falcons – Jordan Magee/LB/Temple

165.  Patriots – Jarrian Jones/CB/Florida State

166.  Giants – Jaylin Simpson/S/Auburn

167.  Vikings – Marcus Harris/DT/Auburn

168.  Saints – Ty’Ron Hopper/LB/Missouri

169.  Packers – Myles Cole/DE/Texas Tech

170.  Saints – Jordan Jefferson/DL/LSU

171.  Eagles – Walter Rouse/OT/Oklahoma

172.  Eagles – Jaheim Bell/TE/Florida State

173.  Chiefs – Gabe Hall/DL/Baylor

174.  Cowboys – Tyrone Tracy Jr./RB/Purdue

175.  Saints – Will Shipley/RB/Clemson

ROUND SIX

176.  49ers – Khristian Boyd/DL/Northern Iowa

177.  Vikings – Layden Robinson/OG/Texas A&M

178.  Steelers – Jaden Crumedy/DL/Mississippi State

179.  Seahawks – Trey Taylor/S/Air Force

180.  Patriots – Nathaniel Watson/LB/Mississippi State

181.  Chargers – Edefan Ulofoshio/LB/Washington

182.  Titans – Trente Jones/OG/Michigan

183.  Giants – KT Leveston/OG/Kansas State

184.  Dolphins – Garret Greenfield/OT/South Dakota State

185.  Jets – Darius Muasau/LB/UCLA

186.  Cardinals – Jamari Thrash/WR/Louisville

187.  Falcons – Chau Smith-Wade/CB/Washington State

188.  Texans – Justin Rogers/DL/Auburn

189.  Texans – Brenden Rice/WR/USC

190.  Saints – Omar Brown/S/Nebraska

191.  Colts – Jackson Sirmon/LB/California

192.  Seahawks – Frank Crum/OT/Wyoming

193.  Patriots – Bub Means/WR/Pittsburgh

194.  Bengals – Nelson Ceaser/EDGE/Houston

195.  Steelers – Malik Mustapha/S/Wake Forest

196.  Rams – Joshua Karty/K/Stanford

197.  Falcons – Tanner McLachlan/TE/Arizona

198.  Dolphins – Grayson Murphy/EDGE/ULCA

199.  Saints – Tip Reiman/TE/Illinois

200.  Bills – Nick Gargiulo/C/South Carolina

201. Lions – Tylan Grable/OT/UCF

202.  Packers – Joe Milton/QB/Tennessee

203.  Broncos – Sione Vaki/S/Utah

204.  Bills – Aaron Casey/LB/Indiana

205.  Lions – Gottlieb Ayedze/OG/Maryland

206.  Browns – Logan Lee/DL/Iowa

207.  Broncos – Tahj Washington/WR/USC

208.  Raiders – Jonah Laulu/DL/Oklahoma

209.  Rams – Daijahn Anthony/S/Mississippi

210.  Eagles – Audric Estime/RB/Notre Dame

211.  49ers – Dominique Hampton/S/Washington

212.  Jaguars – Isaac Guerendo/RB/Louisville

213.  Rams – Isaiah Williams/WR/Illinois

214.  Bengals – Tory Taylor/P/Iowa

215.  49ers – Nick Samac/C/Michigan State

216.  Cowboys – Cornelius Johnson/WR/Michigan

217.  Rams – Dallas Gant/LB/Toledo

218.  Ravens – Keith Randolph Jr./DL/Illinois

219.  Packers – Jaylen Key/S/Alabama

220.  Buccaneers – Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint/WR/Georgia

ROUND SEVEN

221.  Chiefs – James Williams/S/Miami

222.  Seahawks – Blake Watson/RB/Memphis

223.  Raiders – Tatum Bethune/LB/Florida State

224. Bengals – Isaiah Davis/RB/South Dakota State

225.  Chargers – Jordan Travis/QB/Florida State

226.  Cardinals – AJ Barner/TE/Michigan

227.  Browns – Julian Pearl/OT/Illinois

228.  Ravens – Jamal Hill/LB/Oregon

229.  Raiders – Travis Glover/OT/Georgia State

230.  Vikings – MJ Devonshire/CB/Pittsburgh

231.  Patriots – McCallan Castles/TE/Tennessee

232.  Vikings – Evan Anderson/DL/Florida Atlantic

233.  Cowboys – Kamal Hadden/CB/Tennessee

234.  Colts – Willie Drew/CB/Virginia State

235.  Seahawks – Matt Lee/C/Miami

236.  Jaguars – Eric Watts/EDGE/UConn

237.  Bengals – Josh Proctor/S/Ohio State

238.  Texans – Josiah Ezirim/OT/Eastern Kentucky

239.  Saints – Keaton Bills/OG/Utah

240.  Panthers – Ethan Driskell/OT/Marshall

241.  Dolphins – Ryan Flournoy/WR/Southeast Missouri State

242.  Titans – Qwan’tez Stiggers/CB/No College

243.  Browns – Elijah Klein/OG/UTEP

244.  Cowboys – Steele Chambers/LB/Ohio State

245.  Packers – Will Reichard/K/Alabama

246.  Buccaneers – Dylan Laube/RB/New Hampshire

247.  Texans – Evan Williams/S/Oregon

248.  Bills – Dallin Holker/TE/Colorado State

249.  Lions – Pheldarius Payne/DT/Virginia Tech

250.  Ravens – Sam Hartman/QB/Notre Dame

251.  49ers – Brevyn Spann-Ford/TE/Minnesota

252.  Titans – Jaylon Carlies/S/Missouri

253.  Chargers – Lideatrick Griffin/WR/Mississippi State

254.  Rams – Braiden McGregor/EDGE/Michigan

255.  Packers – Rasheen Ali/RB/Marshall

256.  Jets – Jeremy Flax/OT/Kentucky

257.  Jets – George Holani/RB/Boise State

[nate82]

30 minutes ago, JosephC said:

Commanders get #7…Titans get #11, #67 (third) and #100 (fourth)

This trade doesn't make any sense unless the Raiders or Broncos are trying to move up also.  McCarthy should be there at #11. 

 

30 minutes ago, JosephC said:

Titans get #9…Bears get #11 and #100 (fourth)

If the Bears trade #9 it will be to move back further than #11 and if they got #11 in this deal I think they would trade this pick to move out of #11.  I think they will want to get more picks especially in the 2nd round.  The only way the Bears are not trading the #9 pick is if one of Nabers or Odunze are available which I don't think will happen.  I could see a team trading with the Giants to pick up an OT though. 

 

30 minutes ago, JosephC said:

Vikings get #2 and #78 (third)…Commanders get #11, #23. #108 (fourth), #157 (fifth) and 2025 first round pick

I don't see the Commanders making this trade at all.  It just doesn't make sense for them to move off the #2 pick especially for this return.  I think you are underestimating what it is going to cost to get in the top 3.  The Patriots want 3 first round picks at a minimum for #3.  I don't see the Commanders giving up a 3rd and only receiving a fourth and fifth round pick with the three first round picks.  Yes I know the value is not correct but I think you have to throw the valuations out the window with this draft.  All three of the top 3 pick teams need a QB and want to draft a QB.  If you are trading to get into the top 3 you are going to have to pay more than what the Panthers gave up last year for either of those two picks.  The Patriots are not budging on their ask and I just don't see the Commanders taking anything less than 3 first round picks plus a future 2nd or 3rd for #2.  If the Commanders are going to add to the deal it is probably a fifth or a future fourth round pick.  Whoever trades into the top 3 will have to pay more than what has been done in the past to do so. 

[BrewerFan]

4 hours ago, JosephC said:

 

Cardinals get #25 and #126 (fourth)…Packers get #35 (second) and #71 (third)

25.  Cardinals – Laiatu Latu/EDGE/UCLA

26.  Buccaneers – Kool-Aid McKinstry/CB/Alabama

49ers get #27 and #126 (fourth)…Cardinals get #31 and #94 (third)

27.  49ers – Amarius Mims/OT/Georgia

28.  Bills – Adonai Mitchell/WR/Texas

Falcons get #29 and #164 (fifth)…Lions get #43 (second) and #79 (third)

29.  Falcons – Jer’Zhan Newton/DL/Illinois

Patriots get #30 and #165 (fifth)…Ravens get #34 and #103 (fourth)

30.  New England Patriots – Jordan Morgan/OT/Arizona

31.  Cardinals – Ennis Rakestraw Jr./CB/Missouri

32.  Chiefs – Troy Franklin/WR/Oregon

ROUND TWO

33.  Panthers – Ladd McConkey/WR/Georgia

34.  Ravens – Xavier Worthy/WR/Texas

35.  Packers – Edgerrin Cooper/LB/Texas A&M

36.  Seahawks – Braden Fiske/DL/Florida State

37.  Chargers – Kamari Lassiter/CB/Georgia

38.  Titans – Ricky Pearsall/WR/Florida

39.  Panthers – Jackson Powers-Johnson/C/Oregon

40.  Seahawks – Payton Wilson/LB/NC State

41.  Packers – Christian Haynes/OG/UConn

42.  Texans – Ja’Tavion Sanders/TE/Texas

43.  Lions – Tyler Nubin/S/Minnesota

44.  Raiders – Bo Nix/QB/Oregon

45.  Saints – Malachi Corley/WR/Western Kentucky

46.  Colts – Xavier Legette/WR/South Carolina

47.  Giants – Jonathon Brooks/RB/Texas

48.  Jaguars – Kris Jenkins/DT/Michigan

49.  Bengals – Keon Coleman/WR/Florida State

50.  Eagles – Cooper Beebe/OG/Kansas State

51.  Steelers – Kingsley Suamataia/OT/BYU

52.  Rams – Chris Braswell/EDGE/Alabama

53.  Eagles – Jaden Hicks/S/Washington State

54.  Browns – Junior Colson/LB/Michigan

55.  Dolphins – Ruke Orhorhoro/DL/Clemson

56.  Cowboys – Zach Frazier/C/West Virginia

57.  Buccaneers – Adisa Isaac/EDGE/Penn State

58.  Packers – Javon Bullard/S/Georgia

If Williams and Daniels are in the division, I'd be good with moving back, picking up another pick early in the 3rd and getting Cooper. Especially if Guyton, DeJean, Fautanu, Barton, etc...are all gone by 35. 

I'd prefer Suamataia over a OG only at #41 and not a fan of Trotter, but I'd be a big fan.

I do think to move up to #2, Minnesota is giving up more. Washington would have to be overwhelmed.

 

I really hope the Bears trade down is Alt is on the board. Alt with Wright and Williams gives them an incredible foundation, but I think they will look to split, one on offense, one on defense.

 Jarrian Jones at #169 would be a steal. I think he could go in the top 100...but there are so many variables. I like the picks and the positions for the Packers.

4 hours ago, nate82 said:

This trade doesn't make any sense unless the Raiders or Broncos are trying to move up also.  McCarthy should be there at #11. 

I don't think McCarthy makes it to #11. I think teams are going to be aggressive moving up for that 4th QB and it seems like scouts are higher on McCarthy than those making the mocks. He was asked to do a ton at Michigan, but he's been a winner. 3X B1G Champ, NC. He seems a lot like Herbert coming out with more team success. 

[Matt Breen]

Draft is just a few days away. I'm expecting to see OL, LB, CB and Safety in the first 3-4 rounds. A RB and DL will be a little farther down the list - unless someone really cool is available earlier. 

Trading down is always good, but easier said than done. 

Excited to see who the new guys will be.

[JosephC]

On a related note to the upcoming QB frenzy.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39998645/jets-trading-qb-zach-wilson-broncos-source-says

The trade means that only one of the five quarterbacks selected in the first round of the 2021 draft remains with his original team -- Trevor Lawrence, who was picked No. 1 overall by the Jacksonville Jaguars. The other four -- Wilson, Trey Lance (No. 3 pick), Justin Fields (No. 11) and Mac Jones (No. 15) -- have all been traded.

It's not even a gamble to predict that 3 of the top 4 QBs will end up being massive disappointments.

I think, throwing the QB factor out the window, that there are 3 WRs in this draft that are better prospects than any of the QBs.