Miley to IL ……Myers recalled

[jay87shot]

Any chance a minor league trade would work? Baltimore has Cade Povich and Chayce McDermott in AAA, maybe we could trade a younger prospect like Logan Henderson for a AAA pitcher who has some upside. 

Thomas Pannone is in the Cubs AAA having a solid start to the season. Lauer would be interesting but not sure if Pitt. would help us out. Seattle has Dallas Keuchel 2.25 era in 3 starts (16 innings) 9 k/2 bb, he would have Teheran vibes.  

Trevor Bauer just makes to much sense. Sorry to say it for those of you dead set against it. He has been pitching and probably wouldn't need a minor league start, he could add a much needed top of the rotation arm for pennies.

[Outlander]

Would think some of those veterans would have something in their contract that they can go to another team if offered a major league spot. Nice to see Lauer having a good start to the year.

[sveumrules]

14 hours ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

He also K'd 14 in 6 no hit IP yesterday.

Best pitcher in the California Penal League since Ricky Vaughn.

[Fear The Chorizo]

40 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Best pitcher in the California Penal League since Ricky Vaughn.

Remind me again how much time he served, or when he gets out of prison again?

 

I get it, people don't like Bauer - that doesn't mean he's a criminal or that he can't pitch at the game's highest level.

[RedStickBrew]

6 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

Remind me again how much time he served, or when he gets out of prison again?

 

I get it, people don't like Bauer - that doesn't mean he's a criminal or that he can't pitch at the game's highest level.

[duewizard]

16 hours ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

He also K'd 14 in 6 no hit IP yesterday.

Against the Bravos de León who are batting for a team 0.677 OPS, 3rd bottom in the league (lg avg OPS is .790). Striking out Miker Adolfo, Aneuri Tavares, Alan García, Italo Motta and Eddy Diaz is not terribly impressive (not a single batter in the team has MLB time. Guys like Motta have never even played outside of Mexico). The best guys in the team only have a few seasons in AAA, so its like if Bauer had pitched against the Erie Seawolves or something. Not quite MLB level hitters.

[Jirsch]

1 hour ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

Remind me again how much time he served, or when he gets out of prison again?

 

I get it, people don't like Bauer - that doesn't mean he's a criminal or that he can't pitch at the game's highest level.

Say what you want about Bauer.  I don't know him on a personal level, and I'm guessing no one here does either.  Is he an ******?  Maybe.....is he arrogant....sure.  Is he a criminal?  No.  Did a few women try to trap him and get a pay day?  No doubt about that now that a bunch of evidence has come out.

And, to be honest, I've never been one to care how someone is perceived on the internet, or from people who don't personally know them.  You know the old adage "Throwing stones at a glass house".

On a baseball level, he would be an immediate, low cost help.  Is he going to K 14 in 6 IP on the major league level? Probably not.  But does he have a serviceable, mid rotation floor with a #1 upside? Sure does, in my opinion.  

But honestly owners and front offices are to scared to touch him, and with the evidence that just exonerated him, I'm not sure why.....

Just take a deep breath and put yourself in his shoes for a minute....if it was me, and a lie ruined my career, I'd do anything to clear my name and get back to where I was professionally.

[jay87shot]

10 minutes ago, Jirsch said:

Say what you want about Bauer.  I don't know him on a personal level, and I'm guessing no one here does either.  Is he an ******?  Maybe.....is he arrogant....sure.  Is he a criminal?  No.  Did a few women try to trap him and get a pay day?  No doubt about that now that a bunch of evidence has come out.

And, to be honest, I've never been one to care how someone is perceived on the internet, or from people who don't personally know them.  You know the old adage "Throwing stones at a glass house".

On a baseball level, he would be an immediate, low cost help.  Is he going to K 14 in 6 IP on the major league level? Probably not.  But does he have a serviceable, mid rotation floor with a #1 upside? Sure does, in my opinion.  

But honestly owners and front offices are to scared to touch him, and with the evidence that just exonerated him, I'm not sure why.....

Just take a deep breath and put yourself in his shoes for a minute....if it was me, and a lie ruined my career, I'd do anything to clear my name and get back to where I was professionally.

If Tyreek Hill is in the NFL (and hasnt been suspended) Bauer should get a chance in the mlb.

[sveumrules]

2 hours ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

I get it, people don't like Bauer - that doesn't mean he's a criminal or that he can't pitch at the game's highest level.

It appears as though the owners of the 30 MLB teams have thus far decided he can’t pitch at the game’s highest level,

[Jirsch]

Take this for what its worth, but I just read something where Bauer was quoted as saying the following (understanding this is his situation, so this is obviously from his swayed point of view): 

"Everybody that's behind the scenes...players, coaches, GM's....everyone we've talked to that's a baseball person, is like "We'd sign you in a heartbeat, but we take it to ownership and it's a hard no".  And no owners will meet with us, no owners...they won't give us a reason why.  I'm offering to play for literally the league veteran minimum....its like, you have to pay that spot anyway."

I don't agree that he's washed up and can't hack it at the MLB level anymore.  But even if that could be the case, I think he's worth a vet minimum flyer.  Just my opinion.

[TURBO]

13 hours ago, Playing Catch said:

I'm really bummed about the injury/performance issues with Miley, Junis, Hall, Gasser, Misiorowski, et.al,

(Mostly because it gives credence to all the naysayers that said the Brewers did nothing of significance in the offseason to address their rotation, and that had they only signed Cy what'shisname, or traded for so-and-so younghurler, that all of these issues could have been avoided).

Why don't you want to give credence to those people, in the end, they were right.  Nothing wrong with admitting the organization made a mistake.

Even though we don't like to admit it, the naysayers are often right, whether we like it or not.  They are often wrong too, but that is another story all together.

Simple fact is, a lot of people here didn't like the piecing together of the rotation with unproven, rebound, or injured guys.  It was going to take a lot of luck, and I mean A LOT OF LUCK, to get through the season on what we had in place.  That luck ran out, and we aren't even a month into the season yet.

We do often hit on a lot of those type players, but to do it in such large quantity all at once was a wish and a hope that hasn't worked out.  Win loss record looks great, but is this sustainable?  How soon before the bullpen absolutely blows up?

It's going to be an interesting ride this summer, I hope we all survive!

[NOMAAM]

1 hour ago, Jirsch said:

Say what you want about Bauer.  I don't know him on a personal level, and I'm guessing no one here does either.  Is he an ******?  Maybe.....is he arrogant....sure.  Is he a criminal?  No.  Did a few women try to trap him and get a pay day?  No doubt about that now that a bunch of evidence has come out.

And, to be honest, I've never been one to care how someone is perceived on the internet, or from people who don't personally know them.  You know the old adage "Throwing stones at a glass house".

On a baseball level, he would be an immediate, low cost help.  Is he going to K 14 in 6 IP on the major league level? Probably not.  But does he have a serviceable, mid rotation floor with a #1 upside? Sure does, in my opinion.  

But honestly owners and front offices are to scared to touch him, and with the evidence that just exonerated him, I'm not sure why.....

Just take a deep breath and put yourself in his shoes for a minute....if it was me, and a lie ruined my career, I'd do anything to clear my name and get back to where I was professionally.

His kink is to choke a lover unconscious and then punch them in the back of the head.  Then continue with other sexual stuff.   Even if it’s consensual.  It’s a PR nightmare for any owner.  Take a deep breath and look at it from sponsors and fans with young daughters.  It’s just a hard pass for them.  The game is about entertainment and his face would be front and center.  Bauer would have the same problem trying to get a job in any entertainment field where he’d be visible.

[TURBO]

43 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

It appears as though the owners of the 30 MLB teams have thus far decided he can’t pitch at the game’s highest level,

I think that is completely false, and unless you have talked to all 30 owners, that is just an opinion.

IMO, the owners are flat out afraid of what signing him will do for public relations, etc.  I don't believe it has anything to do with his talent whatsoever.  I also have not spoken to all 30 owners, but I believe that my opinion is closer to the mark than yours.

[NOMAAM]

7 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Why don't you want to give credence to those people, in the end, they were right.  Nothing wrong with admitting the organization made a mistake.

Even though we don't like to admit it, the naysayers are often right, whether we like it or not.  They are often wrong too, but that is another story all together.

Simple fact is, a lot of people here didn't like the piecing together of the rotation with unproven, rebound, or injured guys.  It was going to take a lot of luck, and I mean A LOT OF LUCK, to get through the season on what we had in place.  That luck ran out, and we aren't even a month into the season yet.

We do often hit on a lot of those type players, but to do it in such large quantity all at once was a wish and a hope that hasn't worked out.  Win loss record looks great, but is this sustainable?  How soon before the bullpen absolutely blows up?

It's going to be an interesting ride this summer, I hope we all survive!

Guess they either need to make a trade. Or give one of the AA arms a shot.  Peterson, Wessener, or Blaylock

[Guest]

51 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

It appears as though the owners of the 30 MLB teams have thus far decided he can’t pitch at the game’s highest level,

I didn't believe you believe that's the reason he's not pitching. Or, if you do believe it I think you're being rather naive.

[sveumrules]

7 minutes ago, TURBO said:

I think that is completely false, and unless you have talked to all 30 owners, that is just an opinion.

Well, I did say "it appears as though".

There is no need to talk to all 30 owners, the reality is he that isn't currently employed by an MLB team.

He can't pitch in MLB until someone decides to hire him. Even with all the injuries hitting just about every team, no one has as of yet.

Don't need a magnifying glass to read between those lines.

[tmwiese55]

I'd generally agree its bs he's being blackballed over this considering all that's come out about it being a setup, especially considering the other people allowed to play and no one bats an eye.   But, the team/owner who does knows they'd have a mess of a media situation to deal with so I get why its not been done. And I don't think its out of any moral principle by most of the owners, its just about media bs to deal with.  I don't really have much of an opinion on him personally or anything..    I'd also be curious if he has a legal case against mlb for blackballing like Bonds sued for too

If it were to be done I'd think a team off the radar, little media attention would be the one to try it. MKE could apply to that description but I'd probably add in for it to be a non competitive team in order to have less media attention.   Really Oakland would be the one most able to do it. Owner is hated already, no fans there, no attention. Get the story burned out there and maybe trade at deadline.  MIA in their situation this year too but its a bit of a bigger market.  KC/PIT eventually if they fall off like they should. 

[Thurston Fluff]

1 hour ago, TURBO said:

Why don't you want to give credence to those people, in the end, they were right.  Nothing wrong with admitting the organization made a mistake.

Even though we don't like to admit it, the naysayers are often right, whether we like it or not.  They are often wrong too, but that is another story all together.

Simple fact is, a lot of people here didn't like the piecing together of the rotation with unproven, rebound, or injured guys.  It was going to take a lot of luck, and I mean A LOT OF LUCK, to get through the season on what we had in place.  That luck ran out, and we aren't even a month into the season yet.

We do often hit on a lot of those type players, but to do it in such large quantity all at once was a wish and a hope that hasn't worked out.  Win loss record looks great, but is this sustainable?  How soon before the bullpen absolutely blows up?

It's going to be an interesting ride this summer, I hope we all survive!

We ran into the same situation last season at about the same time. We ended up trotting out scrap heap players just to have a warm body to fill get by. The only difference is last season we were relying on the starters more than we planned to this season. It was the same front office that managed to find adequate replacements for them that have to find the pitchers this season. They did a good job of adding relievers who can go multiple innings and adding pitching depth in the upper minors and have one of the top farm systems to work with. Maybe let it play out for a while before declaring the naysayers were right.

[Thurston Fluff]

Just now, Thurston Fluff said:

We ran into the same situation last season at about the same time. We ended up trotting out scrap heap players just to have a warm body to get by. The only difference is last season we were relying on the starters more than we planned to this season. It was the same front office that managed to find adequate replacements for them that have to find the pitchers this season. They did a good job of adding relievers who can go multiple innings and adding pitching depth in the upper minors and have one of the top farm systems to work with. Maybe let it play out for a while before declaring the naysayers were right.

 

[sveumrules]

45 minutes ago, tmwiese55 said:

Really Oakland would be the one most able to do it. Owner is hated already, no fans there, no attention. 

Yeah, Fisher has already gone full scorched earth in Oakland. That not even they have signed Bauer to further thumb their nose at the what's left of the fanbase speaks volumes.

[bigred]

On 4/22/2024 at 5:21 PM, liveforoctober said:

I was about to summon Misiorowski but then looked at his stats to start the year... what is going on with the walks? 11 through 10.1 innings? Only 6 hits and 15 k's... so no one is hitting him but his ERA is inflated.

He's young. R...E...L...A...X

[bigred]

On 4/22/2024 at 5:39 PM, ClosetBrewerFan said:

If Junk is not an option to start then he should not be on the 40 man roster.  I'd rather see him than Ashby at this point

Agreed. Personally, I think Ashby is cooked. 

[folly412]

Spot the veteran we should sign.  Would probably be an improvement in the lineup too!

[Outlander]

It would be nice to get lucky with a youngish guy like Myers that can be a solid starter with a full 6 years of control. Could help ease the pain of losing Reese Olson a couple of years ago.

[TURBO]

7 hours ago, sveumrules said:

Well, I did say "it appears as though".

There is no need to talk to all 30 owners, the reality is he that isn't currently employed by an MLB team.

He can't pitch in MLB until someone decides to hire him. Even with all the injuries hitting just about every team, no one has as of yet.

Don't need a magnifying glass to read between those lines.

He isn't being hired because of his legal issues and what occurred, has nothing to do with his pitching talent.  If he were a boy scout, he'd be pitching in MLB right now.

Not sure what lines you are reading between, but it seems those lines are different than the rest of us.