Uribe optioned

[markedman5]

No corresponding move announced but it has to be Koenig

How does the suspension play into this since they can’t replace him?

 

[wiguy94]

1 minute ago, markedman5 said:

No corresponding move announced but it has to be Koenig

How does the suspension play into this since they can’t replace him?

 

Probably serves the suspension when he's recalled.

[MrTPlush]

Kind of an idiotic move. We can’t replace him on the roster and he has to be on the roster to serve the suspension.

 

[wiguy94]

4 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

Kind of an idiotic move. We can’t replace him on the roster and he has to be on the roster to serve the suspension.

They can recall someone. His suspension won't be served until he's back in the MLB.

[torts]

10 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

Kind of an idiotic move. We can’t replace him on the roster and he has to be on the roster to serve the suspension.

 

To me feels like he won't be back up for awhile, some of his behaviors yesterday and today gave me the impression he needs to work on a few things when struggling.  

[igor67]

He was already pitching himself towards the demotion, so if I understand this not only does it let us try someone else and we have bullpen choices to try. It also gives us control and flexibility about when that suspension happens which is pretty valuable especially given how much we are relying on the pen getting stuck an arm down for even 3 days at the wrong time could be a huge problem.

[tmwiese55]

28 minutes ago, igor67 said:

He was already pitching himself towards the demotion, so if I understand this not only does it let us try someone else and we have bullpen choices to try. It also gives us control and flexibility about when that suspension happens which is pretty valuable especially given how much we are relying on the pen getting stuck an arm down for even 3 days at the wrong time could be a huge problem.

Yea, if he does well in AAA needing a call back you can base it around a time when there is off days to give the other guys rest.  Or even something like right before the ASB. Or if the team falls way off and they're out of it then it doesn't really matter. But hopefully he does well enough in AAA that they'd want him back earlier than ASB or possible late season 'out of it' time. 

[JCREW]

my gut instinct was that the front office just wanted to offset the two suspensions so that they aren't happening concurrently. uribe can work on some things in aaa. then he can come back up and serve his suspension once we have hall, gasser, junk, or someone else back off the il. and crucially, when bryse wilson can be back in the pen eating innings. 

it feels a little bit manipulative, but since freddy's suspension was completely unwarranted, i don't mind it one bit. 

[BrewerFan]

10 minutes ago, JCREW said:

my gut instinct was that the front office just wanted to offset the two suspensions so that they aren't happening concurrently. uribe can work on some things in aaa. then he can come back up and serve his suspension once we have hall, gasser, junk, or someone else back off the il. and crucially, when bryse wilson can be back in the pen eating innings. 

it feels a little bit manipulative, but since freddy's suspension was completely unwarranted, i don't mind it one bit. 

Freedy's suspension is...mind boggling. This is the first I saw of it. I'm at a loss for words.

I don't think Uribe was pitching himself down. He was pitching really well, then the Yankees meltdown...where he should have gotten out of it. But this feels like it's the Brewers kinda dealing out their own discipline. I don't mind players with an edge at all, I kinda like the fire this team plays with, but what Uribe did was so stupid, he's gonna cost the team, ala Portis, in a big spot. 

 

But I don't really see any crossover between Peralta and Uribe and not wanting them both suspended at once. Peralta's suspension IMO gets reduced and he maybe gets pushed back a day. Uribe's wasn't likely to. 

[SomewhereInTime]

I would think it will be a while if we ever see him in a Brewer uniform again.  He needs to get himself in a different place mentally.

[BrewerFan]

6 minutes ago, SomewhereInTime said:

I would think it will be a while if we ever see him in a Brewer uniform again.  He needs to get himself in a different place mentally.

If ever? I don't think there's much question we'll see him again. I think this is now getting blown up out of proportion. 

The guy caused a fight. I think you send him down for a little while and have him work on his anger management issue, but this isn't that big of a deal. I'd say the Prince-Manny Parra thing was a bigger deal. He's the closer of the future.

It was bad...it wasn't Wander Franco bad...

[SeaBass]

As far as Freddy getting suspended I think it's pretty automatic when a player gets tossed for intentionally hitting a batter with a pitch. 5 games is pretty much the minimum to guarantee a starting pitcher misses at least one start. I doubt it gets reduced.

Relievers usually get less, maybe 3 to 4 games. Depending on severity of course. Throwing punches feels like it deserves more. I was initially upset that Siri only got 3 games when Uribe got 6 but it's probably fair for a position player.

[markedman5]

 

[Underachiever]

That was fantastic. Love Jomboy’s breakdowns.

[MrTPlush]

Here would be a recent example of a guy getting ejected and then suspended. Seems kinda automatic. 
 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/cardinals/2023/07/28/miles-mikolas-suspended-hitting-cubs-ian-happ/70489847007/

 

[BrewerFan]

5 hours ago, MrTPlush said:

Here would be a recent example of a guy getting ejected and then suspended. Seems kinda automatic. 
 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/cardinals/2023/07/28/miles-mikolas-suspended-hitting-cubs-ian-happ/70489847007/

 

Totally different situations. There was no question he was trying to hit him. There was with Peralta.

That was when Happ hit Contreras on a backswing, Mikolas was running his mouth, came back, threw up and in, missed, then threw up in and in again. 

I'd bet suspensions are reduced as often as they're not...or at least close to it. 

 

[Jopal78]

11 hours ago, SomewhereInTime said:

I would think it will be a while if we ever see him in a Brewer uniform again.  He needs to get himself in a different place mentally.

Come on. Uribe has an elite arm, that’s why he pitched less than 90 pro innings in the minors between signing at 18 and getting called up to the majors.

No team is just going to flush talent like that, because a slap fest cleared the benches.  
 

Uribe could obviously use some finishing school in order to get his command back to passable. (A nearly 1:1 walk to strike out ratio when he throws 100mph isn’t good) and allows the big league team to manage the inevitable suspensions to a thin pitching staff. 

[MrTPlush]

1 hour ago, BrewerFan said:

Totally different situations. There was no question he was trying to hit him. There was with Peralta.

That was when Happ hit Contreras on a backswing, Mikolas was running his mouth, came back, threw up and in, missed, then threw up in and in again. 

I'd bet suspensions are reduced as often as they're not...or at least close to it. 

 

No, they are exactly the same situation:

Mikolas was ejected for throwing at a pitcher.

Peralta was ejected for throwing at a pitcher.

That’s it, the end of the story. MLB is going to suspend you if the umpire ejects you for throwing at a guy. Whether the umpire decided to do so when it wasn’t 100% obvious and instead 80% obvious isn’t going to matter.

They are almost surely not going to reduce Peralta’s suspension because it is intentionally that length to force him to miss a start (actually be punished from a playing standpoint, not purely monetary).

 

[Samurai Bucky]

If Uribe lands a punch, he probably stays up.  He has been having problems hitting his spots anyway.  😉

[Outlander]

13 hours ago, SomewhereInTime said:

I would think it will be a while if we ever see him in a Brewer uniform again.  He needs to get himself in a different place mentally.

Uribe is talented so likely back this season but it does remind be of Bob Sebra and his fight. He received a five game suspension for starting the large brawl with the Mariners in the early 90's. Never made it back to the majors and left he game with the 5 game suspension still intact.

[SeaBass]

4 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

Totally different situations. There was no question he was trying to hit him. There was with Peralta.

That was when Happ hit Contreras on a backswing, Mikolas was running his mouth, came back, threw up and in, missed, then threw up in and in again. 

I'd bet suspensions are reduced as often as they're not...or at least close to it. 

 

I think it's just MLB backing up their umpires. They'd be more interested in doing that in the name of preventing more beanballs than breaking that play down to see if they agreed it was actually intentional.

It's weird in that I actually do think it was intentional by Peralta (there's video of the catcher using old school signs just before that pitch that look sketchy enough to be a beanball call) but at the same time believe that there is no earthly way the umpire could be so sure in that knowledge to the point where he jumps right to the decision of tossing Peralta out without first issuing warnings.

Whatever, it happened and now the Brewers have to deal with it. I also doubt the suspension gets reduced. Still possible I guess, let's hope.

[Thurston Fluff]

I think the 6.91 era, 1.88 WHIP, 12 walks in 14.1 innings and .288 BAA are the reasons why he was sent down. Dude just isn't one of the eight best option at this point.

[Jim French Stepstool]

8 minutes ago, Thurston Fluff said:

I think the 6.91 era, 1.88 WHIP, 12 walks in 14.1 innings and .288 BAA are the reasons why he was sent down. Dude just isn't one of the eight best option at this point.

Yep. It's time for him to at the very least be riding the shuttle btwn Milwaukee & Nashville, only now you need to do some dancing around the schedule & availability of others if you DO bring him back. He certainly shouldn't be option #1 to come back if you need an arm, even if there wasn't a suspension involved.

[areacodes]

The thing that bugs me about the Peralta ejection is that the umps didn’t look like they were going to do anything until Kevin Cash asked them to have a discussion about it. Then, all of a sudden, Guccione is walking towards the other umps saying we can’t have that and gotta get him outta here.

If it was so egregious that it warranted an ejection instead of warnings, then it shouldn’t be something the other manager has to ask for a discussion about.

[markedman5]