Packers 2024 Season Thread

[LouisEly]

1 hour ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Watson should be back as they don't have a choice anyway with the injury.

Probably the same case with Jaire.  If he doesn't pass a physical before being released they still owe him the money.  Even if he does pass a physical, I'm sure he'll file a grievance and likely will find a doc to say that he can't pass a physical and they'll owe him the money anyway. 

[Joseph Zarr]

10 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

Over the Cap has been proven to be the most accurate.  It's literally what they do.

And that page that you linked is 404.  Ahem...

Speaking of which, that $8 Milly dead cap hit to pay one De'vondre Campbell Sr. hits different. You win some and you lose some. I think we know where that one falls. 

 

** Also: Luke Musgrave making 5x what Tucker Kraft makes - yes, even within the rookie contract scale(s) - just feels icky.  

[JosephC]

Overthecap has the Packers cap room back up to 51 million with the rookie pool at just slightly under 10 million.  So it's probably safe to assume about 41 million is available.  With the way contracts are structured, one can probably figure a "significant" non-QB contract will have a first year cap number of 8-10 million.

I wouldn't hesitate to run that number down to 10 million and then start restructures if more cap space is needed.

A Tom extension would be priority #1.

As far as free agents, first few guys I would look at are CB-Carlton Davis, WR-Tee Higgins and WR-Amari Cooper.  Very good chance I would get priced out on the receivers though.  Justin Jefferson's first year cap number is only 8 million, but there are a couple 40 million dollar years later on in that contract.  Really hard for me to give that type of deal to a wide receiver not named Calvin Johnson or Julio Jones or someone else in that incredible production/production/production/size/speed category.  Higgins and Cooper are good, but they are not in that league.  I've always liked Chris Godwin dating back to his Penn State days, but the injury stuff scares me.

[LouisEly]

2 minutes ago, JosephC said:

Overthecap has the Packers cap room back up to 51 million with the rookie pool at just slightly under 10 million.  So it's probably safe to assume about 41 million is available. 

OTC also factors in a "cushion" that the team usually carries into the season in case they need/want to add someone, injury replacements, etc.  Thus why they have it at $38M.

[Jopal78]

2 hours ago, LouisEly said:

Probably the same case with Jaire.  If he doesn't pass a physical before being released they still owe him the money.  Even if he does pass a physical, I'm sure he'll file a grievance and likely will find a doc to say that he can't pass a physical and they'll owe him the money anyway. 

They do injury settlements in the NFL. They’re common with players who get hurt in preseason and don’t make the team. In this scenario Watson gets a chunk of cash (likely the pro rata amount of pay he would get for the weeks he is projected to miss) and the Packers release him. 
 

Packers get cap space, Watson gets to sign with another team and potentially not miss an entire season on IR which would almost certainly be the case with the Packers 

[bigred]

2 hours ago, LouisEly said:

Over the Cap has been proven to be the most accurate.  It's literally what they do.

And that page that you linked is 404.  Ahem...

Let's see this proof please. I believe that's just your opinion. 

[LouisEly]

34 minutes ago, bigred said:

Let's see this proof please. I believe that's just your opinion. 

Here you go:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/overview/_/year/2025

Your article quoted Spotrac.  Look on the page - there is no allocation for their 2025 draft picks.  Last I checked, draft picks count towards the cap.  And there is no "cushion" allocation that they always go into the season with in case of injuries, needing to acquire someone, etc.

So.... you're wrong.

[bigred]

3 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

Here you go:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/overview/_/year/2025

Your article quoted Spotrac.  Look on the page - there is no allocation for their 2025 draft picks.  Last I checked, draft picks count towards the cap.  And there is no "cushion" allocation that they always go into the season with in case of injuries, needing to acquire someone, etc.

So.... you're wrong.

Not wrong at all actually. You read where it says GB is, and I quote, "SET to have $63M in cap space"? Not the $40M that you said. 

[valpocrewsader]

10 hours ago, LouisEly said:

And that page that you linked is 404.  Ahem...

I think you just need to remove the period from the end of the url.

[JosephC]

7 hours ago, LouisEly said:

Here you go:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/overview/_/year/2025

Your article quoted Spotrac.  Look on the page - there is no allocation for their 2025 draft picks.  Last I checked, draft picks count towards the cap.  And there is no "cushion" allocation that they always go into the season with in case of injuries, needing to acquire someone, etc.

So.... you're wrong.

First off, to address some other posts, I will vouch that overthecap is the best and most accurate site to check for this information.

Also, OTC's effective cap space does not contain a cushion.  Effective cap space definition is just above the table.  It's the NFL salary cap minus combined salaries of players under contract (including dead money) minus the projected cap numbers of the rookie class minus enough minimum salaries to bring the roster to 51 players.  I used 41 million instead of 38 million because in a free agent discussion, every free agent added will bump a minimum salary off the total (Packers have 39 players under contract + 8 draft picks so 4 minimum salaries at 840k each to get to 51 = 3.36 million...roughly the difference between the 41 million I used and OTC's 38 million effective cap space).  There is no reason to split hairs over 3 million anyway, as something as simple as draft day trades will end up altering the numbers.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

19 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

They do injury settlements in the NFL. They’re common with players who get hurt in preseason and don’t make the team. In this scenario Watson gets a chunk of cash (likely the pro rata amount of pay he would get for the weeks he is projected to miss) and the Packers release him. 
 

Packers get cap space, Watson gets to sign with another team and potentially not miss an entire season on IR which would almost certainly be the case with the Packers 

I don't think he will miss an entire season. I don't even think it's out of the question he starts the season, though unlikely. He may start on IR due to the new rules or almost for sure start on the PUP. But he has a lot of incentive to get back on the field financially. 

At his price tag, I don't think it's worth it for the Packers to do a settlement. I'd rather gamble on him being able to help out in some way. The kind of talent he is, is worth risking for a mid-season infusion. Jaire - different story. I would just like to unload him for a bag of potatoes.

[JosephC]

3 hours ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Jaire - different story. I would just like to unload him for a bag of potatoes.

I couldn't agree more.  He only played roughly 40% of the defensive snaps in 2023 and that dropped to 33% this past season.  Add on the "electing himself team captain" foolish stuff.  If a team came and offered me a 5th round pick for Alexander + 7th round pick...that is a deal that I would make.  

[CheezWizHed]

27 minutes ago, JosephC said:

I couldn't agree more.  He only played roughly 40% of the defensive snaps in 2023 and that dropped to 33% this past season.  Add on the "electing himself team captain" foolish stuff.  If a team came and offered me a 5th round pick for Alexander + 7th round pick...that is a deal that I would make.  

Given his injury history, I doubt teams will take on his $$.  Cut him and several teams will be happy to sign him to a 1 year prove it deal, but not at the $16/18M base (plus some bonuses) he will make the next two years.

[OldHeidelberg]

21 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

Given his injury history, I doubt teams will take on his $$.  Cut him and several teams will be happy to sign him to a 1 year prove it deal, but not at the $16/18M base (plus some bonuses) he will make the next two years.

The Vikes will give him about $7 million on 1 year deal.

[OldHeidelberg]

Hafley interviewing with Jets. Anyone else OK with Hafley for Saleh trade?

[homer]

6 minutes ago, OldHeidelberg said:

Hafley interviewing with Jets. Anyone else OK with Hafley for Saleh trade?

Seems like a leverage play. I wouldn't want to coach that dumpster fire. A better job probably opens up next year.

[OldHeidelberg]

5 minutes ago, homer said:

Seems like a leverage play. I wouldn't want to coach that dumpster fire. A better job probably opens up next year.

You could be right but as a young coach you have to strike while you're hot. If the wheels come off on the D next year, hardly unheard of in GB, no one wants him anymore.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Saleh is getting HC interviews so may not be an option. Not sure why he'd get one as he is an awful HC, but I don't know if I want another one of MLF's friends coming in, and what exactly has he done other than being a name in the news a lot?

[OldHeidelberg]

I thought he was well respected as a DC and both Niners and Jets had good 4-3 defenses while he was there. Other than that I am not sure, I hear you about MLF's hiring his buds but that is problem all around the NFL.

[Team Canada]

2 hours ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

what exactly has he done other than being a name in the news a lot

Been a good DC.

[GAME05]

Maybe Micah Parsons could be a good pickup. He's heading into his 5th year option and hasn't had the greatest words to say about Dallas. Though a "win because I'm getting old" Jerry Jones would probably be happy to franchise tag him and not let him go for cheap. It would be the next best thing to replacing Jaire if there's no immediately-as-good player available. A Gary/Parsons/Wyatt pass rush would sure be fun to watch!

[CheezWizHed]

I'm surprised DCs still get HC interviews... what is the success rate of defense-minded HCs?  1%?

[HarryDoyle]

Looks like LeFleur fired defensive line coach Jason Rebrovich.

[GAME05]

1 hour ago, HarryDoyle said:

Looks like LeFleur fired defensive line coach Jason Rebrovich.

And the winner for least surprising Packers offseason move is.......

[homer]

1 hour ago, HarryDoyle said:

Looks like LeFleur fired defensive line coach Jason Rebrovich.

They're interviewing the Jets dl coach.