Devin Willams Trade

[wntrtxn21]

1 hour ago, patrickgpe said:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10142278-ranking-devin-williams-top-10-trade-landing-spots-after-brewers-option-declined

I'm good with the Phil's or Mets trade mentioned. 

In any of these trade scenarios, if that's all that Milwaukee can get for Williams, I'd just keep him and take the comp. pick. Why would the Brewers want Stott (.245/.671 OPS)? He's a clone of Turang and no way I'd move Turang off 2B for him. With the Phillies it's Bohm or nothing (Brewers probably have to include another piece to get Bohm). The Mets deal doesn't do much for the Brewers either. Acuna is a utility type player and Baty has failed miserably in the big leagues. Far too risky.  Williams is worth more to Milwaukee than any of these guys.

[markedman5]

Arnold playing some poker on Williams

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2024/11/07/mlb-hot-stove-free-agents-trade-rumors/76119621007/

[wallus]

2 hours ago, wntrtxn21 said:

In any of these trade scenarios, if that's all that Milwaukee can get for Williams, I'd just keep him and take the comp. pick. Why would the Brewers want Stott (.245/.671 OPS)? He's a clone of Turang and no way I'd move Turang off 2B for him. With the Phillies it's Bohm or nothing (Brewers probably have to include another piece to get Bohm). The Mets deal doesn't do much for the Brewers either. Acuna is a utility type player and Baty has failed miserably in the big leagues. Far too risky.  Williams is worth more to Milwaukee than any of these guys.

Right. Any team trading for Devin in the off-season will at worst get a draft pick by offering him the QO. At minimum, the offers need to be equal value to that. Those trades were all crap and I don't think Devin has a super high trade value.

[Scooterfletcher]

If we can get Stott for Devin straight up, that’d be my preference.  We get 4+ years of 2+ War play seems quite good to me.  

[Outlander]

The Brewers would only get three years of Stott, all at arbitration prices. Would be okay especially with Adames leaving but would probably be looking at trading Stott in two seasons.

[jay87shot]

I am ok with keeping Devin if the value isn't there but I find it hard to believe we couldn't get 2 solid pieces for him (if not 3). There are like 10 teams that need a closer and like 5-7 potential options depending on who is available or who is closer quality. His value at the deadline might even be more depending on the market demand, just trading him seems like we should be able to plug the IF hole and save some money in one move.

[TURBO]

1 hour ago, jay87shot said:

I am ok with keeping Devin if the value isn't there but I find it hard to believe we couldn't get 2 solid pieces for him (if not 3). There are like 10 teams that need a closer and like 5-7 potential options depending on who is available or who is closer quality. His value at the deadline might even be more depending on the market demand, just trading him seems like we should be able to plug the IF hole and save some money in one move.

Not a chance in hell we trade Williams at the deadline if we are in the playoff chase.  If we don't trade him in this off-season, we won't be trading him at all.................................................imo.

[patrickgpe]

16 hours ago, wntrtxn21 said:

In any of these trade scenarios, if that's all that Milwaukee can get for Williams, I'd just keep him and take the comp. pick. Why would the Brewers want Stott (.245/.671 OPS)? He's a clone of Turang and no way I'd move Turang off 2B for him. With the Phillies it's Bohm or nothing (Brewers probably have to include another piece to get Bohm). The Mets deal doesn't do much for the Brewers either. Acuna is a utility type player and Baty has failed miserably in the big leagues. Far too risky.  Williams is worth more to Milwaukee than any of these guys.

I agree with you per se, but there will be a payroll reduction this offseason, take 8 million off of the books for a player that won't be here in 2026. I think Stott has some value and allows Turang to shift over to short. 

[Lloyd330]

17 hours ago, wntrtxn21 said:

In any of these trade scenarios, if that's all that Milwaukee can get for Williams, I'd just keep him and take the comp. pick. Why would the Brewers want Stott (.245/.671 OPS)? He's a clone of Turang and no way I'd move Turang off 2B for him. With the Phillies it's Bohm or nothing (Brewers probably have to include another piece to get Bohm). The Mets deal doesn't do much for the Brewers either. Acuna is a utility type player and Baty has failed miserably in the big leagues. Far too risky.  Williams is worth more to Milwaukee than any of these guys.

2023 Scott is not a clone of Turang - .280/.748 OPS - 15 hr / 30 SB

[wallus]

2 hours ago, Lloyd330 said:

2023 Scott is not a clone of Turang - .280/.748 OPS - 15 hr / 30 SB

What about 2022? 2023 is looking like a possible outlier at this point.

[markedman5]

Nightingale repeats the notion Brewers plan on holding on to Devin…….also says Brewers would have liked to add Goldschmidt if Hoskins had opted out

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2024/11/25/mlb-rumors-juan-soto-latest-news-trade-market/76556552007/

 

[TURBO]

17 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

Nightingale repeats the notion Brewers plan on holding on to Devin…….also says Brewers would have liked to add Goldschmidt if Hoskins had opted out

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2024/11/25/mlb-rumors-juan-soto-latest-news-trade-market/76556552007/

 

I'd rather take a chance on a Hoskins rebound than a washed up Goldschmidt to be honest.  Unless we'd plan to use Hoskins as primarily a DH if we had both of them, but it seems like it's one or the other.

Interesting that this article pegs Sasaki as either a Dodger or Padre with no mention of anyone else even having a remote chance.  Geez, I'd love it if the Crew could sneak in there and land him, but as much as a lot of us are hoping, I'd give it about a 1% (realistically less than 1%) chance of happening.

[jay87shot]

I think the team kind of has to put it out there that we could keep Devin, it doesn't do anything for negotiating a trade to be to eager. With like 7-8 teams likely interested in Devin it is just best to sit back and let the couple good relievers sign and then cash in on a desperate team that missed out. I think all the Goldy stuff is just speculation, I don't think our front office would let that slip before Rhys decided on his option. 

[TURBO]

Yeah, it's smart to let everyone think they are willing to keep him to possibly up the ante, but I think we all know they will not be to eager to move him at the deadline if they are in the chase.

This is just GM speak, and I think there is a lot better chance he is moved than keeping him around.

[markedman5]

Yeah there is no reason to think that we have any reasonable chance of landing Sasaki.

[Madhawk23]

On 11/7/2024 at 5:00 PM, wntrtxn21 said:

In any of these trade scenarios, if that's all that Milwaukee can get for Williams, I'd just keep him and take the comp. pick. Why would the Brewers want Stott (.245/.671 OPS)? He's a clone of Turang and no way I'd move Turang off 2B for him. With the Phillies it's Bohm or nothing (Brewers probably have to include another piece to get Bohm). The Mets deal doesn't do much for the Brewers either. Acuna is a utility type player and Baty has failed miserably in the big leagues. Far too risky.  Williams is worth more to Milwaukee than any of these guys.

I agree with you 100% here.  If these deals are the very BEST that Arnold & Co. can do this winter in a deal for Williams, then I say you just hold him and do what you did with Willy this past year.  Win as many games as you can in your last year with Devin, and then take the comp pick next winter.  

Stott might be an intriguing option if we didn't already have Turang.  But, an IF that would include Stott, Turang and Ortiz would really worry me from a power perspective.  A lot of non-power hitting guys in that group, and I think if we're moving either Ortiz or Turang to SS - we need to then replace them at 2B or 3B with someone that has more of a power profile at the plate.  

[Playing Catch]

I liked that they held on to Willy and made him a QO. But that's a lot riskier play with a relief pitcher.

With that said, I think I agree with the idea of keeping him unless they get a truly tempting offer. Although, Bohm might be tempting enough for me, especially with his extra year of team control.

edit to add - A lot of this depends on if the Brewers can fill Willy's gap through free agency.

[Scooterfletcher]

What about Bryson Stott and Brandon Crawford for Devin Williams and Blake Perkins.  Phillies get the best closer in baseball and a huge upgrade to their OF defense.   We get a controlled 2b starter and a good top OF prospect 3 or so years away.   Maybe we need to throw in a lesser OF prospect as well though.  

[Matt]

New ESPN "Trades we would like to see" article featuring Devin.

Schoenfield suggests the Yankees and their "starting pitching depth in the minors". No names. 

McDaniel suggests the Rangers. Thinks they could get one player between Alejandro Rosario, Emiliano Teodo, or Jack Leiter amongst the arms, or a position player like Justin Foscue. 

I could get on board with any of those Rangers arms, but Foscue's limited options in the field and below average speed wouldn't seem to make him a good fit in Milwaukee.  

[Mr Southpaw]

What about Clarke Schmidt for Devin Williams?  I think we would have to add, but three years of control on a number three starter would be awesome.  Maybe CS and Roc Riggio for DW and Tyler Black.  I don't know much about Riggio, but he has a very cool name, lol.

[KCBrewerfan34]

I don’t think the QO is an option for Devin because he might accept it!!! I’m onboard with trading Devin in a Bohm deal and signing Grichuk. 

[Outlander]

I can't imagin Devin would sign a QO offer when Hader gets $100 million, would give the QO without hesitation. It stinks WIlliams blew the playoff game but his numbers have been great.

[Playing Catch]

34 minutes ago, Mr Southpaw said:

What about Clarke Schmidt for Devin Williams?  I think we would have to add, but three years of control on a number three starter would be awesome.  Maybe CS and Roc Riggio for DW and Tyler Black.  I don't know much about Riggio, but he has a very cool name, lol.

The Brewers actually drafted Riggio out of high school. Didn't sign, obviously.

I love the idea of getting Schmidt for Williams. No idea if that would be something the Yankees would do, however.

[Lloyd330]

On 12/3/2024 at 8:39 AM, Matt said:

New ESPN "Trades we would like to see" article featuring Devin.

Schoenfield suggests the Yankees and their "starting pitching depth in the minors". No names. 

McDaniel suggests the Rangers. Thinks they could get one player between Alejandro Rosario, Emiliano Teodo, or Jack Leiter amongst the arms, or a position player like Justin Foscue. 

I could get on board with any of those Rangers arms, but Foscue's limited options in the field and below average speed wouldn't seem to make him a good fit in Milwaukee.  

Foscue plays 1b, 2b and 3b

[sveumrules]

10 minutes ago, Lloyd330 said:

Foscue plays 1b, 2b and 3b

He "plays" 2B and 3B.

From reading his scouting reports I don't think the Brewers would view him as a regular option at either spot though.