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On 6/17/2025 at 5:16 AM, BrewerFan said:

Just...once again, to reiterate, Attanasio is not the majority owner of the Brewers. 

He owns ~36% or so of the team. That may be lower after Giannis and others have bought in. I'd imagine they ddn't make largest investments, but all the same. 

 

Doesn't mean I don't think he can spend more...but I don't think he can afford bad deals. Just because you got Peralta for cheap and he performed well doesn't mean you're required to compensate for that now by committing to him for what would be 8 more seasons(well...7.5 anyway) and paying him 20M a year at the end of that. 

He'll get paid. I wouldn't go 5/125...it's 1.5 years to go, I'd go 5/100 maybe, but we've also been developing a lot of arms, so...I'd prefer we use that to extend younger position players as they come up(Turang is one I would like to given he can play SS/2B...Contreras may be a good one to extend for a couple years at this point for the right price. 


Otherwise, they should keep the deals shorter so they don't get burned for a few years on the backend. 

As a point of contention on the ownership. Attanasio likely owns at least 50%. He’s been the Board Chair and CEO since he  ought the team. Further with other investors coming aboard over the years, we don’t hear that other co-owners are selling their interest just Attanasio which would seem odd if he only owed a plurality as you suggest as opposed to a majority. 
 

As for Peralta take what Heyman says with a grain of salt. Sure, Peralta could’ve had his agent call the Brewers and express Freddy’s willingness to commit to Milwaukee for the next 5 years, then suggest their number to do so would be 140 million dollars. In that instance, 100% accurate he sought an extension and was turned down. 

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2 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

As a point of contention on the ownership. Attanasio likely owns at least 50%. He’s been the Board Chair and CEO since he  ought the team. Further with other investors coming aboard over the years, we don’t hear that other co-owners are selling their interest just Attanasio which would seem odd if he only owed a plurality as you suggest as opposed to a majority. 
 

As for Peralta take what Heyman says with a grain of salt. Sure, Peralta could’ve had his agent call the Brewers and express Freddy’s willingness to commit to Milwaukee for the next 5 years, then suggest their number to do so would be 140 million dollars. In that instance, 100% accurate he sought an extension and was turned down. 

MLB changed the rules making it much easier for minority owners to sell their shares.  So you'll never here that happening.

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4 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

Attanasio likely owns at least 50%

Per Forbes, he bought an estimated 45% stake in the team in 2004 for a reported $220 million. That's roughly what I would have said from memory as well, I was pretty confident it was not 50%.

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10 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

As a point of contention on the ownership. Attanasio likely owns at least 50%. He’s been the Board Chair and CEO since he  ought the team. Further with other investors coming aboard over the years, we don’t hear that other co-owners are selling their interest just Attanasio which would seem odd if he only owed a plurality as you suggest as opposed to a majority. 
 

As for Peralta take what Heyman says with a grain of salt. Sure, Peralta could’ve had his agent call the Brewers and express Freddy’s willingness to commit to Milwaukee for the next 5 years, then suggest their number to do so would be 140 million dollars. In that instance, 100% accurate he sought an extension and was turned down. 

When he bought the team he initially bought 45% of the team.

I know he's since sold a couple percent here and there and it was...37% or 36% as of last year(upper 30s, I don't remember specifically). 

He could have bought someone out or something could have changed, Aaron Rodgers perhaps but as far as I've known, since he bought it, he's never been a majority owner and he's specifically not referred to as a majority owne, but principal owner.

Him being the Board Chair and CEO doesn't mean he has to be a majority owner. 

 

As for Peralta, I find it unlikely that they're going to come and ask 2 years in advance and expect him to get near market value, but...yeah, I guess it's possible. 

 

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On 6/17/2025 at 12:30 PM, Brian said:

Don't forget Woodruff is 3 years older than Peralta.  Plus N0 guarantees Brandon's injury recovery will be 100% A-OK perfect. 

Yeah, I'd LOVE to see Woodruff come back and I'd even be fine with THEN handing him a 3-year deal if he did and he was throwing well again (assuming it's reasonable), he was healthy. Velo back at 97 or so, but... we're not doing anything with Freddy either way based on Woodruff and what MIGHT happen.

 

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8 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

Yeah, I'd LOVE to see Woodruff come back and I'd even be fine with THEN handing him a 3-year deal if he did and he was throwing well again (assuming it's reasonable), he was healthy. Velo back at 97 or so, but... we're not doing anything with Freddy either way based on Woodruff and what MIGHT happen.

 

I sure wouldn't give a 3 year deal to a 32 year old pitcher who hasn't pitched in 2 years. Your assuming he will comeback and be a 3.00 ERA again.  I am not assuming that at all. 

2026: Mutual option with a $10 million buyout. 

If the option is exercised, Woodruff would earn $20 million. 

If the option is declined, Woodruff would receive the $10 million buyout. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Brian said:

I sure wouldn't give a 3 year deal to a 32 year old pitcher who hasn't pitched in 2 years. 

2026: Mutual option with a $10 million buyout. 

If the option is exercised, Woodruff would earn $20 million. 

If the option is declined, Woodruff would receive the $10 million buyout. 

 

Yeah...I wouldn't give a 3 year deal to a pitcher who hasn't pitched in 3 years either... which is why I tried to make the point very clear that I'd do it if he came back and threw well this year(so you wouldn't be giving it to him after not pitching for 2 years). 

8 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

I'd LOVE to see Woodruff come back and I'd even be fine with THEN handing him a 3-year deal if he did and he was throwing well again (assuming it's reasonable), he was healthy. Velo back at 97 or so, but... we're not doing anything with Freddy either way based on Woodruff and what MIGHT happen.

 

So IF he came back, pitched well, got his velocity up(I don't actually care if it's 97 or 95.8). That was also beside the point as I was agreeing that you shouldn't be signing or not signing Freddy based on what MIGHT happen...(the might happen being Woodruff's production). 

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7 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

So IF he came back, pitched well, got his velocity up(I don't actually care if it's 97 or 95.8). That was also beside the point as I was agreeing that you shouldn't be signing or not signing Freddy based on what MIGHT happen...(the might happen being Woodruff's production). 

Yes, I agree with that.  Every pitcher has to be delt with individually. 

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What bugs me the most about Prealta is he has 95 pitches thrown by the end of 5th inning.  He never used to do that, he doesn't even trust himself anymore. 

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I am irrational about it but I want to sign Freddy. I’m wondering if they will consider maybe a 5 year $80m deal in the offseason which is an under pay but they balance it out by tearing up the last year of his team friendly deal. 

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1 hour ago, umphrey said:

I am irrational about it but I want to sign Freddy. I’m wondering if they will consider maybe a 5 year $80m deal in the offseason which is an under pay but they balance it out by tearing up the last year of his team friendly deal. 

I just think our best call is to deal him at the deadline, or at least after the season.   A team trading for him knows they will at least get a comp first rounder back.   If Nestor and Woody show well then trade Peralta at the deadline though.   
 

Next year Henderson and Crow will need rotation spots I feel.   Gasser maybe too.   Get a big time bat prospect for Peralta and a topish prospect arm in A ball or so for him. 

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Not at all interested in trading Freddy.  That would be clubhouse suicide.  Can't get the extension worked out, sure take trade offers in the offseason..  not a chance I'd trade him this deadline.

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2 minutes ago, brewmann04 said:

I t feeling like every other brewer players that they couldn't afford and have to eventually  trade

Peralta’s option is only for $8M next year, Brewers can afford that.

Peralta would probably want $100M plus on an extension, Brewers can afford that too.

The question is does it make sense for a payroll limited team to spend that much on a pitcher in his thirties?

As much as I love Freddy, the answer to that question is probably not, so my best guess is they pick up the option, let him pitch through 2026, give him a QO, and let him sign with the highest bidder.

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What does the 26 rotation look like right now, maybe this?

 

Mis

Priester 

Patrick

Henderson

Ashby/Hall/Gasser/Myers/FA/etc 

 

It looks better with Freddy in there especially if you consider at least 1 of the top 4 will likely miss time and Freddy has been pretty healthy. Could be a good year for the Brewers because the only productive player on the team at this moment that they lose is Hoskins, and I guess Quintana. And they get about $25m back when those guys leave. 

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39 minutes ago, umphrey said:

What does the 26 rotation look like right now, maybe this?

 

Mis

Priester 

Patrick

Henderson

Ashby/Hall/Gasser/Myers/FA/etc 

 

It looks better with Freddy in there especially if you consider at least 1 of the top 4 will likely miss time and Freddy has been pretty healthy. Could be a good year for the Brewers because the only productive player on the team at this moment that they lose is Hoskins, and I guess Quintana. And they get about $25m back when those guys leave. 

Plus more upper-minors depth with Crow-Kuehner-Hunt-Wichrowski-Hardin.

And because of that depth — I’m putting Peralta up for the highest bidder and IF (IF) we can get an impact BL ready power bat + that blows the team away, I’m trading Freddy.

2026 can be a special year for this team with an already deep, controlled rotation going into the offseason,  plus what should be another strong bullpen.

On the other side of the ball, we get another years development from Frelick-Turang-Ortiz-Chourio-Durbin and what should be a healthy Contreras. The glaring weakness of the team is lack of power and if dangling Peralta to the highest bidder this deadline can get us a young power bat then I’m pulling the trigger.

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2026 Rotation

Peralta- Still the ace and cheap 

Mis- Will have up and downs.

Priester- Innings eater.

Ashby- His stuff is ace quality.

Henderson- Will have ups and downs 

with Hall (better pen piece?), Gasser (hope he comes back strong), Crow (prospect on the rise) and Meyers (shetchy 2026 results) waiting.

If Quintana or Cortez can get a 1B bat (Bauer's upgrade) or a high leverage relief pitcher at the 2025 deadline, you trade them.

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On 7/4/2025 at 2:25 PM, sveumrules said:

Peralta’s option is only for $8M next year, Brewers can afford that.

Peralta would probably want $100M plus on an extension, Brewers can afford that too.

The question is does it make sense for a payroll limited team to spend that much on a pitcher in his thirties?

As much as I love Freddy, the answer to that question is probably not, so my best guess is they pick up the option, let him pitch through 2026, give him a QO, and let him sign with the highest bidder.

I'd be all for trading him if we had a middling farm system, but as long as we can keep drafting and developing arms and now up the middle talent, it's not nearly as important to trade every good player who'd decline a QO before FA.

Just the last couple years have been huge for this system and then on top of that, you have the college relievers we inexplicably turn into legitimate looking MLB starting pitching prospects. 

 

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On 7/4/2025 at 11:10 AM, Brian said:

What bugs me the most about Prealta is he has 95 pitches thrown by the end of 5th inning.  He never used to do that, he doesn't even trust himself anymore. 

Idk Brian. That's always kinda been Peralta's game. Never really been a model of efficiency.

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43 minutes ago, RWeeksFan23 said:

Idk Brian. That's always kinda been Peralta's game. Never really been a model of efficiency.

To take this sentiment one step further, this is nearly his best season as far as going deep into games goes.

Career as a SP:

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