Brewers-Cubs NLDS Game Four Thread - 10/9/2025 @ 8:08PM

[owbc]

My parents are flying out to Seattle today so I'm excited to watch this one with my dad. We watched the Bucks win the championship when he was out here so I'm hoping for similar vibes tonight. 

[Ro Mueller]

I’m picturing Counsell bringing in Civale confidently in relief, only to see us quickly strike for 3 runs to blow open a relatively close game to that point…

[torts]

2 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

As our resident optimist... I am so disappointed. 😂

This is a gameday thread

[Fear The Chorizo]

Not going with Peralta on normal rest tonight wpuld be the equivalent of MLF milking OT clock due to fear of what the cowboys could do after they tied the game with at least a fg, when all you have to do is score TD to win the game right in front of you.  

 

Brewers are up 2 games to 1 and can end the series with a win tonight - Murphy always preaches about playing to "win tonight, worry about tomorrow tomorrow".  That is 100% the right approach for game 4.

 

Find a way to get the lead early and keep the Cubs off the board early, too.  Wrigley will play shorter to left field tonight, but its not like it's going to be a gale blowing out and temps will be in the 50s at gametime.  

[tmwiese55]

Another quirk of the decision I don't think I saw mentioned (sorry if I missed). If they did save Peralta for 5 with also having the hope that he'd be ready for game 1 if they happen to win tonight is that if he did have to pitch game 5 he wouldn't be able to pitch until game 3 in NLCS. and then not again until game 7 (as a normal starter).   Thus, you might be out before he gets a 2nd start.   Pitching today keeps him up for game 2 then 6.   Of course you might still be out by 6, but earlier the better and do what I can to increase his chances for two starts in that series.

[JCREW]

36 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

Not going with Peralta on normal rest tonight wpuld be the equivalent of MLF milking OT clock due to fear...  

I don't watch much football, so at first when I read this, I was very concerned about what "MLF milking" was.

[edfunderburk]

7 hours ago, SeaBass said:

Can we please see a scoreless first inning when the Cubs bat? For once?

This is my exact question as well 

[bm1090]

Yelich leading off, Turang 4th, Frelick 7th. Definitely trying to space out the lefties 

[BrewerFan]

8 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

I posted elsewhere, but a BP game makes no sense to me.  Peralta is the team ACE.  Time to close it out. 

Doing BP means you have Ashby and Miz pitching a second game before Peralta gets his second. 

Fastball Freddie it should be. 

I do not trust Mis enough to do that. 

The way I'd use Mis at this point... in a close game would be with nobody on and I'd be ready with a VERY quick hook.

But... I'm not throwing him ahead of Freddy. 

I will say... if we had Patrick fresh(maybe Myers, I don't like that decision) I could understand the logic behind going BP... but I wouldn't agree with it.

The argument FOR would be to be able to come back with Freddy in Gm1 of the next round, but... can't be thinking like that. You have to put this Cubs team away. They have too good of a lineup to get too cute. 

That said, I was very wrong about Gm2 so I'll root for whatever they decide to do. But this seems like a really simple call. About as simple as Vaughn starting the game vs a LHP. 

[BrewerFan]

1 hour ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

Not going with Peralta on normal rest tonight wpuld be the equivalent of MLF milking OT clock due to fear of what the cowboys could do after they tied the game with at least a fg, when all you have to do is score TD to win the game right in front of you.  

 

Brewers are up 2 games to 1 and can end the series with a win tonight - Murphy always preaches about playing to "win tonight, worry about tomorrow tomorrow".  That is 100% the right approach for game 4.

 

Find a way to get the lead early and keep the Cubs off the board early, too.  Wrigley will play shorter to left field tonight, but its not like it's going to be a gale blowing out and temps will be in the 50s at gametime.  

Yeah, that's... played up even more in the post-season. 

Plus, you have a guy in the BP who has really earned the right to start a game in the NLCS in Chad Patrick. 

I ALSO believe Priester is going to come through next time he's up. 

[adambr2]

I don’t have any major issues with the lineup, but Yelich leading off didn’t work in September and it didn’t work yesterday, and now we have him leading off against a lefty.

The lineups from Games 1 and 2 scored 16 runs so we start shaking it up. I just don’t get it.

[MuckyFingers]

22 minutes ago, bm1090 said:

22 minutes ago, bm1090 said:

Yelich leading off, Turang 4th, Frelick 7th. Definitely trying to space out the lefties 

Anyone know what the Brewers record is with Yelich leading off?

[TURBO]

6 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I don’t have any major issues with the lineup, but Yelich leading off didn’t work in September and it didn’t work yesterday, and now we have him leading off against a lefty.

The lineups from Games 1 and 2 scored 16 runs so we start shaking it up. I just don’t get it.

1000% agreed with this.  It makes absolutely zero sense, yet here we are.

[BarremlensTSSC]

Mission tonight:

 

[HarryDoyle]

If Yelich is leading off again, I'm just going to assume we'll have to limit the Cubs offense to two runs maximum to win the game.

[BCF]

19 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I don’t have any major issues with the lineup, but Yelich leading off didn’t work in September and it didn’t work yesterday, and now we have him leading off against a lefty.

The lineups from Games 1 and 2 scored 16 runs so we start shaking it up. I just don’t get it.

How can you say it didn’t work yesterday? 

[Bulldogboy]

Wait so Turang who has been brutal in the series especially yesterday is now hitting cleanup? I believe Murphy is simply looking for clicks at this point. No rational baseball sense is being made anymore. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

5 hours ago, liveforoctober said:

Hindsight is 20/20 and as much as I love having an opinion about things, the Brewers have a multi-year window where I will not challenge their decisions because they've been so good.. 

But how different would our bullpen look right now with Myers instead of Gasser? I need to have more faith but I'm terrified to throw Gasser in multiple situations right now and Myers I would have no issue pitching just about anywhere.

When we advance, thinking about who would be able to handle the road crowd in Philly or Los Angeles might need to be considered.

 

I think they wanted 3 LHP in the BP and thought Quintana might've been starting a game, hence Gasser. But even then you could make a case for Zastryzny over Gasser.

It looks like it wound up being an either/or with Myers & Patrick, and Patrick is throwing the ball really well right now.

[HarryDoyle]

9 minutes ago, BCF said:

How can you say it didn’t work yesterday? 

Because they only scored three runs, one of them aided by the sun, and they lost?

[Jim French Stepstool]

2 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

Wait so Turang who has been brutal in the series especially yesterday is now hitting cleanup? I believe Murphy is simply looking for clicks at this point. No rational baseball sense is being made anymore. 

He's splitting the LHHs as far apart as he can. It's more about that than declaring "Turang is a cleanup hitter".

I might argue for Frelick leading off though, with Yelich 4th.

[Brian]

9 hours ago, liveforoctober said:

Peralta is the only answer today. We have no bullpen to throw! After what happened to Quinn yesterday in a hostile environment, we are going to throw Gasser or Miz into an even more hostile environment and burn up the rest of our pen for a game five?

I agree 100% about Peralta pitching but I HATE Yelich leading off and Murphy's doing it again.  Please make me wrong Christian. 

[Brian]

36 minutes ago, MuckyFingers said:

Anyone know what the Brewers record is with Yelich leading off?

I honestly can't remember even one win. 

[liveforoctober]

41 minutes ago, MuckyFingers said:

Anyone know what the Brewers record is with Yelich leading off?

According to this he only led off 6 times in the reg. season, went 5-24 with 4bb.

Christian Yelich 2025 Batting Splits | Baseball-Reference.com

[Brian]

To me Frelick or Chourio is better than Yelich in the leadoff spot. 

[Patrick425]

If you just flipped the 2 games start times, the home teams would be playing at 5pm local time and 6pm local time instead of 3pm and 8pm on a weekday. But good point someone brought up about the Eagles game. Also, the poster talking about their kid at the breakfast table saying he can only watch 3 innings.  Are you that strict? Let your kid stay up to watch the game!

Another point. Baseball has done a great job shortening the time of games. Then they get in the national spotlight and add time to commercial breaks and every game is over 3 hours. Great promotion of the sport.

Lastly.  Boyd has a 9.00 lifetime ERA vs the Brewers and over a 4.50 ERA post AS break. Peralta has allowed more than 3 runs in only 4 of his 34 starts this year.