Brewers (Ashby) @ Dodgers (Glasnow): 10/16/25, 5:08pm CT

[SeaBass]

44 minutes ago, TURBO said:

I admire you guys who are still clinging to that last ray of hope.  Seriously, I do.

To be honest though, once we lost game 2, I accepted that it's over.  The hole we dug is just too damn deep.  Pretending we can win 2 of 3 in LA when we couldn't muster up a single win at home is just a little bit on the crazy side, especially the way we are hitting.

As I said a few days ago, beating the Cubs was my world series, anything else was just pure gravy which is why I am able to accept what is about to happen.

It's been a fun season, really fun, and knocking Counsell and the Cubs from the playoffs was beautiful, but the Dodgers are just too much, and that's ok...............................for now.

The future remains bright!

I do still have hope, really. Winning 4 of the next 5 games isn't impossible for any team, even against the Dodgers. This Brewers team is still a very good team.

That said, I'm painfully aware of how difficult it will be and how unlikely it is to actually happen.

I don't expect to advance beyond this series but I do still hope to. I suspect you do also.

[dlk9s]

I have zero expectation of a series win, but at least a tiny bit of hope at this point.

If we go down 3-0 or 3-1, then I'll have zero hope (though a little will return if we turn 3-1 into 3-2).

It's weird - I think to myself that there's no way we keep hitting this badly, so that gives me some optimism, but at the same time, I feel like our pitching has held up better than I expected (yeah, I know we gave up 5 last game), so part of me also thinks the Dodgers are due to start mashing.

[adambr2]

1 hour ago, Lloyd330 said:

This should be the lineup, but Murphy wont do it - The top 4, plus Turang,  have their best BA at the slot they are in

 

Frelick

Contreras

Yelich

Chourio

Bauers

Vaughn

Turang

Durbin

Monasterio

I can’t concur with any lineup that has Yelich batting 3rd right now. It isn’t like he’s hitting rockets and just finding gloves. He just looks completely lost.

That said, I’m fully aware that he isn’t getting benched or dropped further than 4th in the lineup. They are sinking or swimming with him, and the same concept with Ortiz.

[SeaBass]

Somehow, some way, this group needs to show up and be loose and focus on just having fun. Easier to say than do. Just play baseball. Play smart but maybe try to put the stressful feelings aside and just do the thing they've been doing all their lives. Do the little things and maybe they'll add up to something big.

[BarremlensTSSC]

1 hour ago, MrTPlush said:

Christian Yelich’s first game in the postseason (career): 2 RBI

His next 108 PAs: 1 RBI

He has never batted in a run without the ball going over the fence, his three RBI came off his two homers.

He has 4 multi-hit games in 25 games, none of which ever occurred in the same year. He has, however, managed nearly double as many multi-strikeout games (7).

He has 4 doubles, none of which ever occurred in the same postseason.
 

He has 10 games in his career where he went hitless.

2 career postseason HRs. Zero since 2018

 

 

Only three more years of this bum.

ugh.... 108 PAs is the equivalent of April 20th in the regular season.  There are literally tens of thousands of ball players who have struggled over 108 PAs. If he was a bum he wouldn't have made the playoffs enough for you to complain that he's a bum in the playoffs.  It's pretty frustrating at this point of his career to watch him swing over balls out of the zone and roll over everything else, which he's done in stretches for 3 years now when he's struggling.  But this is no different than any slump he hit earlier in the season or that any ball player hits periodically.

[SeaBass]

The Yelich stuff is ridiculous. Whatever, scapegoat whomever you want but there were 2 total hits in game one and 3 total hits in game two. Yelich has drawn one of the four total walks over both games.

It's everyone.

If you want to go back to the Cubs series: he had a hit and a walk in game one, 3 hits in game two, one hit (a double) in game three, no hits and 2 walks in game four, and a goose egg in game five.

[adambr2]

6 minutes ago, SeaBass said:

The Yelich stuff is ridiculous. Whatever, scapegoat whomever you want but there were 2 total hits in game one and 3 total hits in game two. Yelich has drawn one of the four total walks over both games.

It's everyone.

If you want to go back to the Cubs series: he had a hit and a walk in game one, 3 hits in game two, one hit (a double) in game three, no hits and 2 walks in game four, and a goose egg in game five.

Fair or not, I think Yelich bears the brunt of more frustrations than others because as the leader and veteran of the team, he’s kind of one that everyone is looking at and counting on to come through and lift the team up and help spark something.

I would agree that in a vacuum, it’s everyone. Everyone but Chourio, perhaps. 

 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 hour ago, TURBO said:

I admire you guys who are still clinging to that last ray of hope.  Seriously, I do.

To be honest though, once we lost game 2, I accepted that it's over.  The hole we dug is just too damn deep.  Pretending we can win 2 of 3 in LA when we couldn't muster up a single win at home is just a little bit on the crazy side, especially the way we are hitting.

As I said a few days ago, beating the Cubs was my world series, anything else was just pure gravy which is why I am able to accept what is about to happen.

It's been a fun season, really fun, and knocking Counsell and the Cubs from the playoffs was beautiful, but the Dodgers are just too much, and that's ok...............................for now.

The future remains bright!

Realistically it's just very hard to imagine winning a series after losing game 1 with that one in a million double play and loading the bases in the 9th. It's pretty improbable to win 4 games outside of that. But we're here, so there's no point in not dreaming. 

[SeaBass]

2 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Fair or not, I think Yelich bears the brunt of more frustrations than others because as the leader and veteran of the team, he’s kind of one that everyone is looking at and counting on to come through and lift the team up and help spark something.

I would agree that in a vacuum, it’s everyone. Everyone but Chourio, perhaps. 

 

It's not a vacuum and it is unfair.

Are the Dodgers struggling because Ohtani has a .599 OPS going in the playoffs so far? Nope. Because it's a team sport. They've pitched amazing, other hitters are hitting.

It's been 7 games. The playoffs are a small sample and that's why there's so much pressure. But it's not like Yelich has been a complete disappearing act this whole time, which can easily happen to anybody over the course of just 7 games.

It also means he could go nuclear in the next 2 to 5 games just as easily.

[homer]

https://www.mlb.com/news/2-to-0-deficit-baseball-playoff-rallies-c297376582

So yer tellin' me there's a chance....

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Teams that win the first two games in a best-of-seven postseason series have history on their side. In 78 of 93 instances, those clubs have prevailed.

 

[MrTPlush]

Literally no where.

NO WHERE

Was I blaming Yelich for the teams poor success in the NLCS.🤣 Y’all arguing to a brick wall. lol 

It probably has more to do with his garbage health and staying on the field. At that rate suiting up every day in October is an accomplishment. But thus, highest paid man in franchise history and turns in to a negative contributor come fall. Deserved or not, he gets to wear that on his legacy. $200mil man who can’t hit a ball out of the infield or get it to go more than 5 feet without hitting the ground in-front of him.

 

 

[willie key]

1 hour ago, SeaBass said:

The Yelich stuff is ridiculous. Whatever, scapegoat whomever you want but there were 2 total hits in game one and 3 total hits in game two. Yelich has drawn one of the four total walks over both games.

It's everyone.

If you want to go back to the Cubs series: he had a hit and a walk in game one, 3 hits in game two, one hit (a double) in game three, no hits and 2 walks in game four, and a goose egg in game five.

It’s not ridiculous.    
 

 

[Bulldogboy]

Somehow I picture Murphy calling Ashby at all hours of the night just to make sure he doesn't get any rest. I'm calling Tommy John for Ashby next season. 

[Team Canada]

If it's Ashby, presumably we're doing Miz for the bulk and then Quintana tomorrow. I don't really care, they're each going to need to put in innings. Or I suppose it could be both Miz and Q today and Priester again tomorrow, he did a fine job in Game 1.

[patrickgpe]

To me, Megill or Keonig makes so much more sense than throwing out Ashby again. I hope it works out, but I'm worried. 

[patrickgpe]

13 minutes ago, Team Canada said:

If it's Ashby, presumably we're doing Miz for the bulk and then Quintana tomorrow. I don't really care, they're each going to need to put in innings. Or I suppose it could be both Miz and Q today and Priester again tomorrow, he did a fine job in Game 1.

the Miz parts makes sense. If they lose today, I don't think you want to throw him out in a do or die. That's more suited for Quintana. The Ashby part confuses to me to no end 

[tmwiese55]

odds on Ohtani walking to start the game, 50%, or even higher?   first two pitches curves in the dirt?

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

If it's one inning, I guess it doesn't matter if it's Ashby or Koenig. They want a lefty, maybe they trust Koenig more in a leverage spot.

The thing that's been tough to understand, all year, is just how often they use Ashby. He's up to like 71 MLB IP this year. Maybe that's not that much, but he's gotten it in a pretty condensed period. Are they anticipating him as a starter next year? Do their analytics just really trust his recovery? I have to think there's some underlying philosophy here, but it's pretty hard to see given that he's pitched (and struggled) as both an opener and a leverage lefty in these playoffs AND pitched in nearly every game. 

I'm not upset about this. I am confused/curious. Hopefully, he pitches another clean first, after already being staked to a 5-0 lead.

[RWeeksFan23]

if Koenig doesn't pitch tonight, that tells me he's battling some minor health issue.

[TURBO]

So we continue to be hell bent on forcing Ashby to pitch until his arm falls off.

Pitching him in 7 of 8 playoff games is just whacko.

It's confusing, frustrating, and down right comical at this point.

He is NOT our only lefty, right?  C'mon Murphy, get creative and start someone other than Ashby.

If this goes south right off the bat in the first inning, Murphy deserves every single ounce of criticism he gets, this is just asinine.

 

 

[SeaBass]

1 hour ago, willie key said:

It’s not ridiculous.    
 

 

Oh, it's not? It doesn't get ridiculous when people start griping about 3 more years (or whatever it actually is)? The horror. A guy that's quite literally one of the 3 best hitters on the team.

But you're right. it couldn't possibly get ridiculous.

[ToolShed55]

I've been on this board, and its other iteration, for over 20 years. I've always believed it to be such a cop-out to be a Chicken Little pessimist.

The Brewers win - much happiness ensues. The Brewers lose - see, I told you so, ain't I smart.

But, flags fly forever, David does sometimes beat Goliath. As long as we have a chip and a chair, there's hope.

Go Brewers, and stop coming at me with those negative waves,  Moriarty! 

[SeaBass]

2 hours ago, MrTPlush said:

Literally no where.

NO WHERE

Was I blaming Yelich for the teams poor success in the NLCS.🤣 Y’all arguing to a brick wall. lol 

It probably has more to do with his garbage health and staying on the field. At that rate suiting up every day in October is an accomplishment. But thus, highest paid man in franchise history and turns in to a negative contributor come fall. Deserved or not, he gets to wear that on his legacy. $200mil man who can’t hit a ball out of the infield or get it to go more than 5 feet without hitting the ground in-front of him.

 

 

I haven't said that you did. I also don't really feel like Adam is being unfair either. Criticism of Yelich or any player is fair game.

When I say it's getting ridiculous it's more the over the top stuff that I'm talking about. Theorizing that his back is bothering him when there's no earthly reason to think that, unless something has been actually said about it from sources that would actually know.

Pretending like the team is saddled with an albatross contract for the next 3 seasons. I don't believe that Yelich's contract is keeping the team from spending on a large contract if they truly felt like that contract would be good for the team.

Yelich has had a good season this year, there's no way folks can legitimately deny that and be taken seriously. He's not 2018-2019 Yelich anymore, he hasn't been for years and I don't expect him to be going forward.

The difference between Chourio and Yelich this postseason is roughly 3 hits. What are we even talking about?

 

[Yaz19]

So, is Ashby going for the record of starting the most games in postseason history?  The lack of available reliable starters so far has been very disconcerting.   So, it appears Qunitana will be the first out of the bullpen to eat up innings.   

Fingers crossed the pitching holds up and the offense remembers how to get hits and score runs.

[CheezWizHed]

5 hours ago, TURBO said:

I admire you guys who are still clinging to that last ray of hope.  Seriously, I do.

To be honest though, once we lost game 2, I accepted that it's over.  The hole we dug is just too damn deep.  Pretending we can win 2 of 3 in LA when we couldn't muster up a single win at home is just a little bit on the crazy side, especially the way we are hitting.

As I said a few days ago, beating the Cubs was my world series, anything else was just pure gravy which is why I am able to accept what is about to happen.

It's been a fun season, really fun, and knocking Counsell and the Cubs from the playoffs was beautiful, but the Dodgers are just too much, and that's ok...............................for now.

The future remains bright!

We cheer a team through 162 games of regular season baseball (and even a bunch of ST games) in order to get the playoff baseball.  

Tonight is the reason. 

We play the best of the best of the best.  No one said it would be easy.  It shouldn't be. Teams have to fight and adjust and give everything because there are generally small margins between the teams at this stage (save for late season injuries).  

My head isn't in the clouds and thinking we will suddenly flip the switch and waltz into the world series. But I will continue to cheer until the last out seals the fate.  Know how teams make improbable victories?  They don't give up.

If they don't give up...neither will I.

Let's just win tonight and let tomorrow take care of itself.