Brewers Reportedly Concerned about Payroll

[Jopal78]

The Brewers are in an awful market, one that really shouldn’t have an MLB team. 
 

Attanasio was a founding member of Crescent Capital, an investment firm, with over $50 billion dollars invested. Attanasio doesn’t need profits from the baseball team to finance his lifestyle. Nor has there been any evidence he hasn’t poured every dollar the Milwaukee market will bear back into baseball operations.

Give the guy some credit for trying to come up with new revenue streams in the Milwaukee market to keep his team competitive in a sport where salaries have grown exponentially since the last CBA. 
 

The notion that his team “should spend” on these boards usually ignores where that money comes from. As a business owner sticking your own personal money into your  business to potentially enhance customer experience and with no guarantee of increased revenue, market growth. equity, etc. makes zero financial sense.

Thats why the Brewers are bargain shoppers in free agency. 

[Thurston Fluff]

On 11/30/2025 at 1:13 PM, BrewerFan said:

I don't see how;

Closer= Simplistic group. 9th inning, no matter what, not always(in fact usually not) the most impactful innings by a reliever.

Keep Megill and Uribe can throw in the 7th or 8th or whenever they need him as he did last year.

 

The Brewers have done this for years. They've put as much value on the guy coming in and getting outs vs the middle of the order in the 8th or in a tough spot in the 7th as they have the closers role. 

That's not me inferring Uribe isn't good, it's... just the opposite. It's me wanting to see him used the same as he was this year. 

If that's what you meant fine. That doesn't seem to be how the Brewers operate though. There's enough recent history here showing they use their best reliever as the closer.

[owbc]

At some point Rosenthal is going to get what’s coming to him and I’m going to love every second of it. Maybe someone will hot mic him…and there’s a deep drive to left by Castellanos…

[BrewerFan]

1 hour ago, Thurston Fluff said:

If that's what you meant fine. That doesn't seem to be how the Brewers operate though. There's enough recent history here showing they use their best reliever as the closer.

THIS;

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They've put as much value on the guy coming in and getting outs vs the middle of the order in the 8th or in a tough spot in the 7th as they have the closers role. 

 

Is absolutely how they operate when they can. 

OBVIOUSLY when you have someone like Hader and he's losing money, you can't keep him in that role for years, but they did keep him in it until he went to arbitration and then they used the lack of saves. 

At that point, Devin Williams came in and HE was the closer. 

 

 

I don't get why we're still doing this though. You misunderstood what I said about pigeonholing him in as a closer, you took it as a negative... whatever, cleared that up and now what is the point? This is from a few days ago.

It feels like we're getting pretty pedantic here.

 

Do you think they should trade Megill so they can save 4.2M? That's where the discussion started and where it really should have ended. 

[Thurston Fluff]

23 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

THIS;

 

Is absolutely how they operate when they can. 

OBVIOUSLY when you have someone like Hader and he's losing money, you can't keep him in that role for years, but they did keep him in it until he went to arbitration and then they used the lack of saves. 

At that point, Devin Williams came in and HE was the closer. 

 

 

I don't get why we're still doing this though. You misunderstood what I said about pigeonholing him in as a closer, you took it as a negative... whatever, cleared that up and now what is the point? This is from a few days ago.

It feels like we're getting pretty pedantic here.

 

Do you think they should trade Megill so they can save 4.2M? That's where the discussion started and where it really should have ended. 

How many times did Uribe come into the game earlier than the seventh inning last season? Murphy has used relievers in pretty clear roles for the bullpen as a whole. While it took time for the roles to shakeout, as it does every year given the volatility of relievers, they each had roles that were pretty defined. Uribe was pretty much a pure setup man prior to closing. I don't recall him being used to get out of a jam in the 5th or 6th inning at all last season. His role last season was the right handed setup man. It wasn't a fireman used whenever seemed most important. 

Your argument boils down to you don't want to pigeon hole a guy who was already pigeon holed. You may not agree with him being used that way but he was used that way.

[BrewerFan]

12 minutes ago, Thurston Fluff said:

How many times did Uribe come into the game earlier than the seventh inning last season? Murphy has used relievers in pretty clear roles for the bullpen as a whole. While it took time for the roles to shakeout, as it does every year given the volatility of relievers, they each had roles that were pretty defined. Uribe was pretty much a pure setup man prior to closing. I don't recall him being used to get out of a jam in the 5th or 6th inning at all last season. His role last season was the right handed setup man. It wasn't a fireman used whenever seemed most important. 

Your argument boils down to you don't want to pigeon hole a guy who was already pigeon holed. You may not agree with him being used that way but he was used that way.

1- 25 1/3 of his IP were in the 7th or earlier. So... I'd say quite a bit of his innings were used in the exact role I defined.

We've had relievers of the year who weren't closers several times, so I'm not sure how this is disputable,. 

And 

2- NO, my argument does NOT boil down to not wanting to pigeon hole a guy who was "already pigeon holed," which... by the way, you claimed that it was hard to see that as anything but negative, but moving on, my argument BEFORE we got into the semantics of what pigeon holed meant was that I DIDN'T THINK WE SHOULD TRADE A PITCHER LIKE MEGILL to save ~4M dollars. And that if the Brewers did that... with THAT being their motivation because they want to cut payroll now so they can add what will almost invariably be worse players at the deadline OR players who are as good, but will obviously than cost a LOT in prospect capital as... shockingly high leverage relievers are valuable at the deadline.

 

The point was THEN made that Uribe was ready for the closers job... which I not once disagreed with, but you assumed I did and now we're in a circular and... kinda dead-end conversation here that's REALLY quite a ways off topic but now you're arguing THIS;

42 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

They've put as much value on the guy coming in and getting outs vs the middle of the order in the 8th or in a tough spot in the 7th as they have the closers role. 

isn't true...;and I'm just not sure what Brewers team you've been watching for the last 7 years. 

 

And I asked a REALY straightforward question that was at the heart of this entire thread... and you came back with several more questions for me. So... should they trade Megill to save 4.2M dollars? 

 

45 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

Do you think they should trade Megill so they can save 4.2M? That's where the discussion started and where it really should have ended. 

THAT could not have been a simpler question to answer. 

[Thurston Fluff]

2 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

1- 25 1/3 of his IP were in the 7th or earlier. So... I'd say quite a bit of his innings were used in the exact role I defined.

We've had relievers of the year who weren't closers several times, so I'm not sure how this is disputable,. 

And 

2- NO, my argument does NOT boil down to not wanting to pigeon hole a guy who was "already pigeon holed," which... by the way, you claimed that it was hard to see that as anything but negative, but moving on, my argument BEFORE we got into the semantics of what pigeon holed meant was that I DIDN'T THINK WE SHOULD TRADE A PITCHER LIKE MEGILL to save ~4M dollars. And that if the Brewers did that... with THAT being their motivation because they want to cut payroll now so they can add what will almost invariably be worse players at the deadline OR players who are as good, but will obviously than cost a LOT in prospect capital as... shockingly high leverage relievers are valuable at the deadline.

 

The point was THEN made that Uribe was ready for the closers job... which I not once disagreed with, but you assumed I did and now we're in a circular and... kinda dead-end conversation here that's REALLY quite a ways off topic but now you're arguing THIS;

isn't true...;and I'm just not sure what Brewers team you've been watching for the last 7 years. 

 

And I asked a REALY straightforward question that was at the heart of this entire thread... and you came back with several more questions for me. So... should they trade Megill to save 4.2M dollars? 

 

THAT could not have been a simpler question to answer. 

1- 7th or earlier is not the same as earlier than the 7th. Nor is his use early in the season the same as when his role was established. Murphy used him in the 7th when there were some lefties coming in the 8th. Both innings are essentially setup innings when you have a both a left and right handed set man.

Early in the season nobody knew what to expect out of Uribe. Once he established himself we was used late in close games as a setup man. I don't know if you're trying to deny Murphy wasn't going with roles or you just don't want anyone in roles but it was pretty clear Murphy does. 

2- Your argument was most definitely you not wanting to pigeon hole Uribe into one role from the start. I was wrong on what you meant by pigeon hole but not wrong that one of your reasons not to trade Megill was because you didn't want Uribe stuck in one role. The point remains he's going to be either way. The only question is which role.

3- We agree trading Megill to save money is a bad idea. I was never defending the idea of trading him to save money. I just didn't agree with either the argument that he wasn't ready or that he'd suddenly be pigeon holed into a single role was a valid reason not to.

[BrewerFan]

10 hours ago, Thurston Fluff said:

1- 7th or earlier is not the same as earlier than the 7th. Nor is his use early in the season the same as when his role was established. Murphy used him in the 7th when there were some lefties coming in the 8th. Both innings are essentially setup innings when you have a both a left and right handed set man.

Ok... well, I'M the one who made the argument that he threw in the 7th OR earlier. I'm obviously not going to limit that to the 6th or earlier, though he did have 11 appearances in the 6th inning... and given he filled in for Megill the last ~6 weeks of the season, I feel like 1/3rd of his innings in the 7th or earlier, 11 outings in the 6th or earlier makes my point.

 

Either way, your OWN argument here is effectively the same as mine without using the term "piegon hole."

He can come in and get out right handers in the 7th when there are good lefties due up in the 8th. GREAT! That's exactly my point. You can use him in the highest leverage spots rather than just point by numbers and making him your closer. 

10 hours ago, Thurston Fluff said:

2- Your argument was most definitely you not wanting to pigeon hole Uribe into one role from the start. I was wrong on what you meant by pigeon hole but not wrong that one of your reasons not to trade Megill was because you didn't want Uribe stuck in one role. The point remains he's going to be either way. The only question is which role.

No, my argument was that they SHOULDN'T and I didn't think they would trade Megill. Of course that argument now NOT having the ability to use Uribe when you need him earlier is part and parcel to my larger point, but no, my argument was... we shouldn't trade Megill to save salary. Because he's "in his 30s and 6'8," which seems very arbitrary or simply because you CAN replace him. 

 

Also, I didn't think this article was accurate and that I thought the entire logic was flawed. Trading cheap salaries now so you have the money to go out at the deadline and trade for players? The players you're trading away now are almost certainly going to be the positions you want depth at at the deadline. 

Just last year we traded FOR a closer and that was with a healthy Megill and Mears who had 2.84 ERA, 2.88 FIP at that time. So despite having Megill, Uribe, Ashby, Koenig and a VERY good reliever in Mears at the deadline, we STILL traded for Shelby Miller... who slotted in behind all of them and we took on Jordan Montgomery in order to add Miller.

 

But of course trading your closer away and now... moving Uribe into the closers role(whatever phrase works) weakens your entire pen. Trading Megill and Mears for Yoho and Bukauskas... makes this team much worse and it saves you very little, even for a team like the Brewers. 

 

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You trade 4.2M in Megill so you can... do what at the deadline? Try and add another high leverage reliever? 

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They may want to cut some payroll so they have room to add later... and the players they'll use to do so are POTENTIALLY Freddy Peralta and his 8M deal, Trevor Megill, our closer, part of the duo at the back of the pen that features two elite closers, and then Nick Mears... who is due to make 1.7M.

 

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Losing BP depth definitely hurts and you're just... casually throwing our closer.. who threw pretty damn well in the playoffs and now has all off-season to recover and a very good SU man away for... minimal savings. 

You don't trade your closer on a whim because you have Uribe. Urbie is a SU man. ON top of that, you're just trading away the 7th inning reliever to save 1.5-1.6(his projected arbitration numbers by spotract and MLB.com). 

 

In response to the trading Mears "won't matter at all," and that we can just replace Megill with Uribe and Mears with Yoho or Bukauskas Which we can... and in doing so, make our ENTIRE Bullpen weaker. 

THIS is where you came into the conversation. Even in the post you're replying to, my argument is certainly not based on not wanting to pigeon hole Uribe into the closers role, but not wanting to lose Megill. 

 

10 hours ago, Thurston Fluff said:

3- We agree trading Megill to save money is a bad idea. I was never defending the idea of trading him to save money. I just didn't agree with either the argument that he wasn't ready or that he'd suddenly be pigeon holed into a single role was a valid reason not to.

So... the same argument I've been making the whole time, but the ENTIRE point of contention is how I articulated their use of Uribe and how I think that benefits the Brewers?

Being able to use him in the highest leverage spots earlier in the game(for instance when the other team has their best RHed hitters coming up in the 7th)?

 

 

[Roderick]

To tell the truth, I haven't read all the back and forth.  My two cents.  Megill is very important, as Murphy does maneuver Uribe and Koening around (Koening bunch of lefties, Uribe middle of the order) to match up to whatever bats are coming up the for innings 7-8 (usually). 

If Megill is gone, Uribe is strictly the 9th inning, even if the middle of the order is coming up in the 8th inning.  And we have no one proven to take over the Uribe role.  Megill might be due for his reliever bad year, but I would still keep him on the roster.

[Brian]

Jansen, Hoskins, Quintana, Perkins, Lockridge, Yelich, Mitchell, Collins, Bauers, Shelby Miller, Eric Hasse and Tyler Black should all be on the trading block. Reboot Time is my call. Maybe we could do a 5 or 6 for 1 deal and get a decent player in return but probably still won't save us enough money. We do have a lot of non production alternate players. 

[DR28]

43 minutes ago, Brian said:

Jansen, Hoskins, Quintana, Perkins, Lockridge, Yelich, Mitchell, Collins, Bauers, Shelby Miller, Eric Hasse and Tyler Black should all be on the trading block. Reboot Time is my call. Maybe we could do a 5 or 6 for 1 deal and get a decent player in return but probably still won't save us enough money. We do have a lot of non production alternate players. 

Coming off Franchise record Wins and best record in MLB, why the hell would we blow everything up?

I hope your post was meant to be in blue.

[sveumrules]

1 hour ago, Brian said:

Jansen, Hoskins, Quintana, Perkins, Lockridge, Yelich, Mitchell, Collins, Bauers, Shelby Miller, Eric Hasse and Tyler Black should all be on the trading block. Reboot Time is my call. Maybe we could do a 5 or 6 for 1 deal and get a decent player in return but probably still won't save us enough money. We do have a lot of non production alternate players. 

Jansen, Hoskins, Quintana, Shelby Miller, and Eric Haase are all free agents. The Brewers cannot trade them.

[wallus]

9 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Jansen, Hoskins, Quintana, Shelby Miller, and Eric Haase are all free agents. The Brewers cannot trade them.

Or is this the new market inefficiency? 😉

[SeaBass]

1 hour ago, DR28 said:

Coming off Franchise record Wins and best record in MLB, why the hell would we blow everything up?

I hope your post was meant to be in blue.

I think you could cross most of those names off his list and come away with trading Yelich would be good for Milwaukee. Which is kind of obvious. The problem as everyone knows is Yelich can't be traded without his permission which kills a lot of possibilities there. Not impossible but I kinda feel it's not very likely either. Yelich has been productive but as almost exclusively a DH his value to the team isn't all that great either.

[Brian]

2 hours ago, DR28 said:

Coming off Franchise record Wins and best record in MLB, why the hell would we blow everything up?

I hope your post was meant to be in blue.

Blow everything up?  None of those players were quality except Yelich and will be 34 in two days on Dec 5th a little past his prime. 

[DR28]

2 minutes ago, Brian said:

Blow everything up?  None of those players were starters except Yelich and will be 34 in two days on Dec 5th a little past his prime. 

You said Reboot time, same thing as blowing everything up.

[Brian]

10 minutes ago, DR28 said:

You said Reboot time, same thing as blowing everything up.

How about a Brewer factory reset?  No way no how do the 2026 Brewers even come close to the 97 wins they had last year with this team. 

[DR28]

5 minutes ago, Brian said:

How about a Brewer factory reset?  No way no how do the 2026 Brewers even come close to the 97 wins they had last year with this team. 

They will be just as good in 2026, returning almost the entire same team.... And adding a healthy Woodruff.

[BrewerFan]

2 hours ago, Brian said:

How about a Brewer factory reset?  No way no how do the 2026 Brewers even come close to the 97 wins they had last year with this team. 

Please explain how you arrive at this conclusion?

SPing
We lose-Quintana
We gain- A full year of Misiorowski, Woodruff(or at least 100 more IP). Priester for the whole year. Patrick won't be a rookie, Myers was much better when he came back. Gasser, again, healthy and should be available all of next year. 
Logan Henderson.
That's on top of Peralta.

BP-Unless we actually trade someone, again, everyone we want is back. Megill, Uribe, Ashby, Koenig, Hall, Mears, Anderson, Zastryzny... and then a slew of arms in AA and AAA. Wichrowski may be able to step in and contribute or maybe not. But I'm going go guess between he, Crow, Hardin, Hunt...Yoho, Bukauskas(I wouldn't count on him to replace a high leverage arm, but I wouldn't dismiss him). 

So.... we lose absolutely nothing, but we should be BETTER across the board. 

 

IF-We bring back EVERYONE. We bring back the 1B who had a great 60 games with the Brewers, but we get him the WHOLE year.
We also have Adams, Wilken in AA who were dominant in AA... which is 1 step away from the Big League team. Throw in Black, Boeve, Burke, Fischer... any of whom could potentially step in and help at 1B if Vaughn doesn't play well. 

OF-Again, literally EVERYONE back. 
Chourio at 22... probably hasn't peaked(don't think I'm going out on a ledge here). 
Collins was a rookie... and despite the perception he struggled in the 2nd half, he had an .818 OPS.

C-You have Contreras and Quero.

 

 

So I'm just... desperately trying to figure out the logic that suggests we're going to be WORSE next year. How there is "no way" they come close to their 2025 production? 

[BrewerFan]

2 hours ago, DR28 said:

They will be just as good in 2026, returning almost the entire same team.... And adding a healthy Woodruff.

Yeah, and again, not just Woodruff. Priester starts the season with the Brewers, Misiorowski will be there all year, Gasser, Henderson... the whole staff is back save for Quintana and you have several young arms who they don't have room for. They'll be in AAA getting work and ready to step in at any point in time. 

I don't know how you look at this team and think 'no chance they'll be as good next year.'

I can't say they'll win 97 games. We have no idea what'll happen next year with injuries or who'll have a break out season. 

Pretty hard to look at Misiorowski and how he finished up the year and think HE won't have a huge impact.

Even if we were looking at 2027, I'd say I think we'll be pretty damn good, but I could see the argument.

 

We lost Burnes. Won more games. We lost Adames. Won more games. We win 97 games, we lose NOBODY, we have several young, talented players=No way we'll be able to replicate their 97 win season???

 

Ok. 

[tmwiese55]

I also don't think its a lock that Quintana isn't back.  I would guess his preference is to be back.  However, with Woodruff and presumably Peralta back you don't neeeed him for depth like last year.  But, if all he's costing is 4-5 mil there's nothing wrong with it either.  I mean we all saw what happened, by the end we were down to two starters.   Seems like a  good guy liked by everyone, good mentor for the young guys.  Maybe it would help them give some strategic in season breaks and keep guys fresh for end of year. 

that said, if I had to take over/under on 97 wins I'm taking under. That's more out of the flukiness of the two long win streak that inflated our win total. Generally speaking, as of right now there isn't any reason to think this team won't be as good as last years even though it might win 5 less games just due to baseball flukiness 

[Brian]

5 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

Please explain how you arrive at this conclusion?

SPing
We lose-Quintana
We gain- A full year of Misiorowski, Woodruff(or at least 100 more IP). Priester for the whole year. Patrick won't be a rookie, Myers was much better when he came back. Gasser, again, healthy and should be available all of next year. 
Logan Henderson.
That's on top of Peralta.

BP-Unless we actually trade someone, again, everyone we want is back. Megill, Uribe, Ashby, Koenig, Hall, Mears, Anderson, Zastryzny... and then a slew of arms in AA and AAA. Wichrowski may be able to step in and contribute or maybe not. But I'm going go guess between he, Crow, Hardin, Hunt...Yoho, Bukauskas(I wouldn't count on him to replace a high leverage arm, but I wouldn't dismiss him). 

So.... we lose absolutely nothing, but we should be BETTER across the board. 

 

IF-We bring back EVERYONE. We bring back the 1B who had a great 60 games with the Brewers, but we get him the WHOLE year.
We also have Adams, Wilken in AA who were dominant in AA... which is 1 step away from the Big League team. Throw in Black, Boeve, Burke, Fischer... any of whom could potentially step in and help at 1B if Vaughn doesn't play well. 

OF-Again, literally EVERYONE back. 
Chourio at 22... probably hasn't peaked(don't think I'm going out on a ledge here). 
Collins was a rookie... and despite the perception he struggled in the 2nd half, he had an .818 OPS.

C-You have Contreras and Quero.

 

 

So I'm just... desperately trying to figure out the logic that suggests we're going to be WORSE next year. How there is "no way" they come close to their 2025 production? 

We need more pop in our line up otherwise we will have to manufacture every single run we get.  In other words we can't rely on 4 hits in an inning to get maybe 2 runs. Our team is just not that good.  One Example: When Vaughn was hot we were winning 11 even 14 in a row, when he went cold we struggled. 

Tyler Black will never amount to anything in the MLB.  I have already X'ed him out. He is about as good as Joey Wiemer was. 

Brewers played above and beyond all expectations last season, I see no way that happens again just because everyone is coming back unless our division gets worse. 

[BrewerFan]

On 12/3/2025 at 6:30 PM, tmwiese55 said:

I also don't think its a lock that Quintana isn't back.  I would guess his preference is to be back.  However, with Woodruff and presumably Peralta back you don't neeeed him for depth like last year.  But, if all he's costing is 4-5 mil there's nothing wrong with it either.  I mean we all saw what happened, by the end we were down to two starters.   Seems like a  good guy liked by everyone, good mentor for the young guys.  Maybe it would help them give some strategic in season breaks and keep guys fresh for end of year. 

that said, if I had to take over/under on 97 wins I'm taking under. That's more out of the flukiness of the two long win streak that inflated our win total. Generally speaking, as of right now there isn't any reason to think this team won't be as good as last years even though it might win 5 less games just due to baseball flukiness 

 

Yeah, I wouldn't bet the over on 97 wins, but, it's saying that we're not going to come close. Like this is an 85 win team and we need to "reboot." 

We started the season very poorly last year and then we really coasted at the end because we could. 

We had 4 of the top 7 rookies in the league last year. 

I'm never going to bet on a team winning more than 97 games, but that's part of the story. They could win 95 games and be a better team.

In fact, look at the Pirates and Reds rotations? I think this team will be better than last years team, AND they'll have a much more difficult inter division schedule. The Cubs aren't going to just crumble, though I don't think they'll be as good. The Cards should be the worst team in the division. 

But you could face the Pirates and get Paul Skenes, Jared Jones and Bubba Chandler. Or the Reds and get Hunter Greene, Chase Burnes, Andrew Abbot. They've got really good pitching.

 

Still, I don't see ONE area on this team that should be worse next year(as of today). 
I do see several area's we should be appreciably better. 

This is a young team.

SP-I could see Peralta having a worse year... and still being a better staff. Misiorowski should be held to 130-140 innings in the regular season and a couple of breaks(maybe a "sore ankle" or whatever). 

Chourio- Does ANYONE really think we've seen his peak? Or even anything close to it?

Ortiz-He was a better player in '24. I doubt he'll have a terrible BB% and BABIP with his speed and patience.

1B-Vaughn came over and didn't just get lucky. He was far more selective and there's a reason he was the #3 pick in the draft as a 1B. 

C-I don't think we'll get worse here and we could very well get better. Contreras and Quero. 

Farm System-There are several guys who could step up and contribute.

Where are we likely to get worse?

 

I think next years team will be more talented. I don't know exactly how many wins they'll have though. 

[BrewerFan]

1 hour ago, Brian said:

We need more pop in our line up otherwise we will have to manufacture every single run we get.  In other words we can't rely on 4 hits in an inning to get maybe 2 runs. Our team is just not that good.  One Example: When Vaughn was hot we were winning 11 even 14 in a row, when he went cold we struggled. 

Tyler Black will never amount to anything in the MLB.  I have already X'ed him out. He is about as good as Joey Wiemer was. 

Brewers played above and beyond all expectations last season, I see no way that happens again just because everyone is coming back unless our division gets worse. 

You DO realize we led the NL in BA, OBP, 2nd in runs... but you think that when Vaughn struggled... we struggled? Do you have anything to back that up?

It's interesting, I mentioned Tyler Black among SEVERAL other players who MAY play 1st next year and that's not only who you focus on, but you compared him to Joey Wiemer? You realize that Black... in a very limited sample size, had a .538 OBP last year, right? There's virtually nothing he and Wiemer have in common and he was but ONE player.

6 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

We also have Adams, Wilken in AA who were dominant in AA... which is 1 step away from the Big League team. Throw in Black, Boeve, Burke, Fischer... any of whom could potentially step in and help at 1B if Vaughn doesn't play well. 

So again, doesn't have to be Black... but it IS a bit foolish to dismiss him at this point. He was a top 50 prospect a  year prior, but now he'll NEVER amount to anything and you've determined that at age 24?
 

 

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Brewers played above and beyond all expectations last season, I see no way that happens again just because everyone is coming back unless our division gets worse. 

 

Isn't it funny how they do that every year?

 

[Brian]

6 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

Tyler Black among SEVERAL other players who MAY play 1st next year and that's not only who you focus on, but you compared him to Joey Wiemer? You realize that Black... in a very limited sample size.

Everyone keeps saying "limited sample size."  MLB statistics across TWO SEASONS (2024-2025) showed a .211 batting average. Maybe he has a "limited sample size" because he is not that good and coaches see that also, he is not that young either being born in 2000.